"Old Knives"

Hey everyone, just picked this up at a flea market. I've been practicing my restoration game, figured this could be a decent candidate. The tang stamp says "------ cut co, walden ny". The only stamp I know that looks like that would be a I think 1917-1943 schrade or thereabout, but does anyone else have a better idea? I'm not super knowledgeable about all of the walden knife companies.

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Thanks!
 
Should be Schrade Cut Co, man - if only that Knife could talk,

I don't think that Knife originally started off as a Lambsfoot Blade - Schrade Cut Co - I don't Think made one, it could have been a Sheepsfoot of Clip Point taken down from tip damage- more likely that later?

Yours looks like Brass liners, in the Schrade Catalog E, I see a Sheeps foot, Ebony, No Shield and Steel bolsters & Brass Liners- it also has another pattern the same but with Steel Liners, Pattern number 21521/2 @ 3 & 3/8ths long closed, but there is still lots of gap between Nail Nick and tip - so it can't be shortened too much?

Schrade guys will know for sure.

Whats the closed length?
 
Campbellclanman said:
Should be Schrade Cut Co, man - if only that Knife could talk,

I don't think that Knife originally started off as a Lambsfoot Blade - Schrade Cut Co - I don't Think made one, it could have been a Sheepsfoot of Clip Point taken down from tip damage- more likely that later?

Yours looks like Brass liners, in the Schrade Catalog E, I see a Sheeps foot, Ebony, No Shield and Steel bolsters & Brass Liners- it also has another pattern the same but with Steel Liners, Pattern number 21521/2 @ 3 & 3/8ths long closed, but there is still lots of gap between Nail Nick and tip - so it can't be shortened too much?

Schrade guys will know for sure.

Whats the closed length?
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Thank you so much for the info! It's exactly 3&3/8 closed. The main blade is 2&3/8 from bolster to tip, or 2&1/8 sharp length. It does look like the blade could have originally been maybe 1/4 inch longer at most. I think you're probably on the money with the 21521/2, I just looked up the catalog and it absolutely could have started life out as one of those. The secondary would have originally been a spear and brought down to this tiny coping blade.
 
Been cleaning and oiling some of my more "seasoned" pocketknives here of late.
This OLD sweetheart has seen a lot of use and love to have made it this far. She really speaks to me....
Schatt and Morgan (of course) :rolleyes: Gowanda, N.Y. 1896-1902
Which makes her 122 at least, the bone has been worn pretty much completely smooth on the mark side with just a small trace around the shield. But the jigging pattern can still be made out on the pile side. Makes me wonder how many fathers passed this pocketknife down to their son's.... How many times has she been opened and closed.... How in the world did the bone stay intact all these years, ya know it's been dropped a hundred time at least..... A Million questions come to mind.

3 1/4" closed, Split back spring and all the blades have great walk and talk.... not a slug in the bunch! 😊 She's seen plenty of use and the blades show it, the main is at least 3/8" short.
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knowtracks said:
Been cleaning and oiling some of my more "seasoned" pocketknives here of late.
This OLD sweetheart has seen a lot of use and love to have made it this far. She really speaks to me....
Schatt and Morgan (of course) :rolleyes: Gowanda, N.Y. 1896-1902
Which makes her 122 at least, the bone has been worn pretty much completely smooth on the mark side with just a small trace around the shield. But the jigging pattern can still be made out on the pile side. Makes me wonder how many fathers passed this pocketknife down to their son's.... How many times has she been opened and closed.... How in the world did the bone stay intact all these years, ya know it's been dropped a hundred time at least..... A Million questions come to mind.

3 1/4" closed, Split back spring and all the blades have great walk and talk.... not a slug in the bunch! 😊 She's seen plenty of use and the blades show it, the main is at least 3/8" short.
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Look at that smooth Bone- That is a LOT of Handling my friend. Yup, I can almost hear that Knife talking to us too Dave !
 
majorpain1 said:
Here you go.

Dasco (found in 1925 catalog, Schrade-made)
Ulster (pre-1941)
Winchester (1919-1942)
Belknap Hwd
Queen City (1922-42)
Voss Cutlery (Germany)
Robeson (1940-64)
American Shear & Knife (1953-1914)
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Thanks, major!!! 😁
 
Here's an old relic, partially restored!! The handles (cracked) are obviously pre-ban, the two blades are restored with salvaged blades, challenging with this small knife at
2 15/16"!!!!
Note a Cattaraugus and an Imperial blade!! The tweezers remain, the "pricker" is broken off; the hoof pick/nut cracker, awl and corkscrew (kinda small for all functions) remain!!
Proudly used, and useful, but retired for now, it looks like a Sheffield knife??!!HorseRelic 1.jpgHorseRelic 2.jpgHorseRelic 3.jpg
Tiny but interesting!!
 
Oh man, Charlie- That's a Darling of a wee Knife, I don't think many really take in just how small this Knife is- but how wonderfully the knife is with all its components, I have a small J.A Henckels that is packed with Blades and utensils and is a real wonder looking at it- as it is with this Old Beauty.

I was going to ask you if you knew the original Maker- but reading from your wondering if it's a Sheffield suggests not. This stuff is really interesting!.

I love the Rock - now you have told me before Charlie- most probably more than once - did you find this - I think I would have dug carefully for quite some time if I found that in a certain location, I don't think it's a natural formation - What say you Sir?
 
That rock is a natural concretion formation, Duncan! There are holes all over it from softer elements eroding away; the side you see just happens to suggest a face/skull!! I found it among some landscaping gravel - no idea where it came from - a creek bed somewhere!!
 
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Wow! Ok, I kind of remember you saying something like that- that is amazing.

Me with my mind - I pick it up and find some wee stone toy that a Dad made his wee Kiddie in times way way back 🤣 always the dreamer I am.
 
ok, this is pushing the limits whether this should be in the Old Knives Thread, But I thought it was interesting- although NOT high end collecting,. but of interest?

With my Sears road I am travelling along it's been a challenging one trying to pick up information and the knives as well, so I saw this set for sale and thought- I would have a go at grabbing this because it was a good example for my Sears Collection as Sears had one of these Knives in the Craftsman range, so I thought well....... lets have a "Outside the 4 walls of Sears" and "Inside the 4 walls of Sears" comparison, so same Knife manufacturer- different Stamps for different marketing for the two companies involved.

So this was the Counter Display a Hardware / Hunting Shop would have had siting there all pretty, behind and still there is the boxes with the different numbers for the different named Colours for each Knife - all stashed in a little compartment behind the Frame....

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Now the " Inside Sears walls Knife made by Imperial, no longer the Frontier from Imperial but a Craftsman Knife from Sears.........

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Campbellclanman said:
ok, this is pushing the limits whether this should be in the Old Knives Thread, But I thought it was interesting- although NOT high end collecting,. but of interest?

With my Sears road I am travelling along it's been a challenging one trying to pick up information and the knives as well, so I saw this set for sale and thought- I would have a go at grabbing this because it was a good example for my Sears Collection as Sears had one of these Knives in the Craftsman range, so I thought well....... lets have a "Outside the 4 walls of Sears" and "Inside the 4 walls of Sears" comparison, so same Knife manufacturer- different Stamps for different marketing for the two companies involved.

So this was the Counter Display a Hardware / Hunting Shop would have had siting there all pretty, behind and still there is the boxes with the different numbers for the different named Colours for each Knife - all stashed in a little compartment behind the Frame....

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Now the " Inside Sears walls Knife made by Imperial, no longer the Frontier from Imperial but a Craftsman Knife from Sears.........

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Interesting counter display and “matching” Craftsman, Duncan. :thumbsup: I was going to ask if you had any idea how old those were, but a little Google search turned this up with the same prices shown on the display, dated 1976-77. (I would’ve guessed a little later based on the prices, but hey, what do I know?) 😁

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I have a Frontier Stockman I picked up for a song a few years back. I liked the powder horn shield.

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