"Old Knives"

Here's an old one I picked up the other day. Can anyone tell me how old it is? Imperial over Prov. R.I., USA on the pen.
That would be the tang stamp used from '56 - '88 if I remember correctly.

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peter
 
Time to wake up this "old" thread again!
Joseph Rodgers & Sons made this knife during the reign of King Edward VII of England, 1901-1910, at their famous no.6 Norfolk st. address in Sheffield. An oddly shaped knife, especially to the North American eye, it is 3 5/16" long, and hasn't been sharpened!
A squarish equal end knife, it seems ungainly to me, especially with its stubby main blade. It is very slim, single backspring, and the blades fit so tightly together, you couldn't find room for a piece of tissue paper in between them.
Yet with the deep markings on both sides of both blades, and the rat-tail bolsters, it is surprisingly attractive. Ever meet a person of the opposite sex, who would never make a movie star, but who you can't imagine yourself being anywhere but in their company?? That's this little duckling!!! And, it's 100 years old!!!!!! I am smitten.
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I am adding some tang scans to show them, and the rat-tail bolsters better.
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Hi stockman, this is just like my tang stamp. taken from one I just bought.
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Interesting, there is no USA in the stamp, and as you said no crow.
That would make it a '36-'52 if I remember right.
Definitely a nice find. Congrats and thanks for the clear picture, well done.

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Peter
 
Let's see how this one comes out.

The stamp reads: "J Nowill & Sons Sheffield"
The reverse has a pair of crossed keys, an asterisk, and a "D"

Heavily engraved silver handles, hope it comes through in the pic.
The engraving includes four stamps:
"J.N"
a crown,
a lion,
what looks like a small "d".


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Very nice lobster pattern. JN is the maker's stamp as identified, Crown for the Sheffield assay office, Lion for sterling silver (.925) and small 'd' . A stylized d in an eight-sided shield is the mark for 1896 and seems an appropriate year for the knife. If possible, please show a close-up of the mark. Thanks.
 
Time to wake up this "old" thread again!
Joseph Rodgers & Sons made this knife during the reign of King Edward VII of England, 1901-1910, at their famous no.6 Norfolk st. address in Sheffield. An oddly shaped knife, especially to the North American eye, it is 3 5/16" long, and hasn't been sharpened!
A squarish equal end knife, it seems ungainly to me, especially with its stubby main blade. It is very slim, single backspring, and the blades fit so tightly together, you couldn't find room for a piece of tissue paper in between them.
Yet with the deep markings on both sides of both blades, and the rat-tail bolsters, it is surprisingly attractive. Ever meet a person of the opposite sex, who would never make a movie star, but who you can't imagine yourself being anywhere but in their company?? That's this little duckling!!! And, it's 100 years old!!!!!! I am smitten.I am adding some tang scans to show them, and the rat-tail bolsters better.
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Great knife waynorth. Rare IMO to see rat tail bolster on a pen knife like that. Generally these appear on larger prunning and jack knives. Thanks for showing it.
 
Informative comments as always; thanks s-k!!
I must admit, it is encouraging when you get a comment or two, when you post a knife, whether it is good or bad. The people who go through the trouble of making a pic, and posting it, are the ones who keep it interesting here.
I thank all the posters, and commenters!! You know who you are!!
Here is an interesting pruning knife. I have been told the blade is full, and it doen't appear to have been re-finished. It is slimmer than most Hawkbills, but fits the pocket nicely when closed. Tony Bose modelled his beautiful collaboration pruner after a slim Hawk, so I guess "slim" is or was an alternate school of marketing thought. If that makes sense??
I have an appreciation of solid brass handles also, certainly as tough as it gets for adverse conditions. And you need a personal trainer to work out your thumb to get this sucker open!! And closing it, take it away from the windows, lest the thunder shatter them:eek:!! Where's that Knox gelatin??:D
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Age or history anyone?? No markings on the back.
 
Informative comments as always; thanks s-k!!
I must admit, it is encouraging when you get a comment or two, when you post a knife, whether it is good or bad. The people who go through the trouble of making a pic, and posting it, are the ones who keep it interesting here.
I thank all the posters, and commenters!! You know who you are!!
Here is an interesting pruning knife. I have been told the blade is full, and it doen't appear to have been re-finished. It is slimmer than most Hawkbills, but fits the pocket nicely when closed. Tony Bose modelled his beautiful collaboration pruner after a slim Hawk, so I guess "slim" is or was an alternate school of marketing thought. If that makes sense??
I have an appreciation of solid brass handles also, certainly as tough as it gets for adverse conditions. And you need a personal trainer to work out your thumb to get this sucker open!! And closing it, take it away from the windows, lest the thunder shatter them:eek:!! Where's that Knox gelatin??:D
IXLTyneHawk.jpg

Age or history anyone?? No markings on the back.
I have the sister of that one in dead mint condition, as I remember I bought it from 1974 to 1982. The brass handles drew me. Try to get Picture posted soon. Did not keep records then or now, too dang late. So that is the best I can do on time period.

Jim
 
I did Charlie, but it was without papers or box. Found it in Pawn shop. Let me go check tang for markings, be back in minute. 25 steps to run to get into room.
Jim
 
No tripod or scanner, but the marks are not identical as far as I can tell.
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Must have been a repro.
 
Can "rat-tail" be defined? I thought it was a "fluting" so to speak, across the width of the bolster...

Thanx,
Mike
 
Jim, the marks look the same to me!

MaleX2, "rat-tail" comes from rat-tail file, the file used to cut the groove across the bolster. It's a round file, reminiscent of the rodent's tail it gets its name from. Strictly speaking, flutes run the other way, lengthwise to the knife. The term "fluted" has become confused in common usage, but so has a lot of English.
 
The term "fluted" has become confused in common usage, but so has a lot of English.

So, what you're saying then is that the precision of the term fluted has become diluted through the oft wrong usage by the knife hording multitude?


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Blues,
yer a poet!
But youze,
don't know it!!:D
 
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