"Old Knives"

jdracing said:
I guess that's bad then,isn't it?
Both blades been changed,or just one?
Thanks for your help,
JD
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I can say it's not original. If you wanted a legitimate old knife, then that's not what you got.

Repairing a knife is not necessarily bad. I don't know that it was intended to fool anyone. This one is very obvious. Some parts knives are much better disguised. And there are fakers on eBay that rework knives so that they can pick the pockets of inexperienced buyers. Some appear to enjoy the conning people as much as the money. In my opinion that's very bad. For honest repairs, a good thing to do is to mark the knife (such as the inside of the liner).

Guessing which parts came from where is not something worth pursuing. I have some guesses but it's not important. It's a knife collage now. Any remaining value is in the utility that it has to you as a cutting instrument.
 
JD - next time look at the stamping - then you have to learn at looking at the typeface used on those stampings - along with blade shapes and blade combinations.
Note the Brass pin replacement in your Bolster.
It's all ok mate - you have a neat old user to enjoy. At times blades were honestly replaced with other blades because of breakage ect - it's been done hundreds of times before this knife of yours as well.
 
Campbellclanman said:
JD - next time look at the stamping - then you have to learn at looking at the typeface used on those stampings - along with blade shapes and blade combinations.
Note the Brass pin replacement in your Bolster.
It's all ok mate - you have a neat old user to enjoy. At times blades were honestly replaced with other blades because of breakage ect - it's been done hundreds of times before this knife of yours as well.
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Thanks friend for the words of encouragement....I really
mean that too....
JD
 
JD, One of my favorite heirlooms is a rabbetting block plane that my grandfather owned. It's monetary value is diminished to collectors since the handle is not original. That never was a consideration. My grandfather put a new handle on it because he used the plane. And it has sentimental value to me. Like my grandfather's plane there are honest repairs to knives as well. Of course, the fakers know this as well and they'll tell all sorts of stories.

In addition to the loss of historical value, the quality of the repair is another thing to consider when buying a parts knife. Without having the knife in hand, it can be difficult to know whether the repair is done well, especially a replaced blade. The donor blade may or may not be a good fit. And blade mechanics is not something that can be seen. A legitimate repairman would take pride in his work and mark it.
 
supratentorial said:
Augie, Neat knife. I think you described it well. The secondary blade is a pen blade, not a punch.
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Campbellclanman said:
Thanks Jack - all to true my friend!

Aug - thats a neat old one! Love the Old Bone, at a guess the reason for the Bolsters to be shiny and the blades not-perhaps a tightening of the pin which would require the Bolster to be sanded because of work to the pin? - but a way-cool knife my friend!!
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glennbad said:
Augie, that coke bottle is great!



Here's a little dandy I picked up. Shame the one blade was snapped, but everything else is there. Just a well made little knife...



Gevonovich said:
Glen
That Brookes is killer!! I love those stout small muti-blade knives. Looking forward to seeing more of it:D



Just a great old knife, Augie. Love the bone on it!! Looks like a good size too
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Thanks guys, I really like this knife, it feels really good in hand. Gev it is a good size, just right. Glenn, love the old Brookes, nice find.
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Here's a cool one. I've never seen a Camillus with a curved stamp.




 
Glenn, nice oldie, not an easy tang stamp to find. Seems that it dates pre WW1.
 
Glenn, now that is one fine knife, not only the stamp but the pattern as well! Camillus is known for their quality and I would be interested to hear what your opinion is of the quality of this specimen? If the pictures are any indication, I'd say...superb!
 
Hal it is the standard Navy Rope Knife. I have an old Case that is the same pattern, made to Navy spec's i'm sure.
Sailors had to deal with very heavy ropes as well as steel in cables, etc. I'm sure it was very hard on their hands and fingernails. Being able to file off a broken nail while on duty would be useful. Plus at inspection likely hands were examined, no dirt under fingernails allowed.
The Manicure secondary was standard issue.
"Pocket Knives of the United States Military" by M.W. Silvey says (pg 40) that this pattern became the new knife for the Navy in WW I. 3.25", jigged bone & a bail with sheepsfoot and manicure blade. Camillus supplied the Navy with about 155,000 of these. Also made by Schatt & Morgan, Case and Schrade Cut Co. as shown on pg 31 in Cat. E 1926.
kj
 
Gevonovich said:
Glenn, now that is one fine knife, not only the stamp but the pattern as well! Camillus is known for their quality and I would be interested to hear what your opinion is of the quality of this specimen? If the pictures are any indication, I'd say...superb!
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The steel on the blades is, as one might expect, somewhat used and corroded. The snap on the blades is still quite strong.

the wood, possibly rosewood, is very nice, and is the highlight of the knife, along with the great bolsters and shield. Definitely on par with other knives of that era.
 
Jake, this is fantastic Catt. you are lucky guy.
Glenn, Great looking whittler, I just love it.
Joe, great example of iconic knife, I had couple of this pattern over the years, very appealing.

Mike
 
Primble said:
Catt Whittlers:
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That pic bears repeating! My goodness! Meanwhile, I have a question for you: The Primble stockman knives with a 'star' on the tang... Does that mean Boker U.S.A.?
 
glennbad said:
The steel on the blades is, as one might expect, somewhat used and corroded. The snap on the blades is still quite strong.

the wood, possibly rosewood, is very nice, and is the highlight of the knife, along with the great bolsters and shield. Definitely on par with other knives of that era.
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Thanks for you thoughts and details, Glenn! Most every Camillus knife of that era,i have come across, are very well made and still have great snap. You got a gem in that whittler
 
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