"Old Knives"

r8shell said:
My latest antique store find was in pretty rough shape, but I saw potential.



I popped off what was left of the celluloid covers and cleaned it up today. Once the rust was removed the blades open easily and shut with a decent amount of snap.



I believe this is a WW2 era Camillus. It looks like the "Army Air Corps Utility Knife" from their 1946 catalog.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/497708-Camillus-Tang-stamps-and-dates?p=5727944#post5727944



I plan to try to put some new wood covers on it. I should be able to do it without having to take the knife apart. :)
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That one should clean up good when you get done. It got a good set of bones to work with.
 
An old Ulster equal end Stockman with nice full blades:thumbup:

Not sure if the darkening in the bone is natural or not:confused: However, I like it:cool: Not sure but I think the tang stamp falls into the 40's?

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Paul, that Ulster is a beauty!

I finally got around to getting pictures of this Ulster Dwight Devine pruner. I have used this on occasion to pick grapes.

 
SK - Thank you for that - ok its good to know what the letters stand for-thank you so much for that, and I love your butler version! Great to see!

Thank you Mike Sir, yeah...this Thread is kinda cool - ESPECIALLY when you see outstanding knives like Paul's Ulster! OMG that is such a stunning knife! Paul, you must slide that over the table when we are sharing a few Beers one night soz I can inspect that stunner!
 
deltaboy said:
That one should clean up good when you get done. It got a good set of bones to work with.
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Thanks. I did manage to fix it up with some wood covers.

Campbellclanman said:
A great catch R8shell - so are you going to use the big Ol Boy?
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I probably will. I don't run across many usable knives that old, so it seems a shame not to carry it. Plus, it's got this cool bulldog tang stamp:


Campbellclanman said:
This neat old Christopher Johnson, I thought it may have been earlier- but this does carry the England Stamping.
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Nice find. What's the handle material?
 
R8Shell, I missed your posting of that Terrier jack.

Very nice, solid, honest old knife.

Catalog reprints of Terrier knives do not exist. There were a couple of Terrier kitchen knives still shown in a Robeson loose leaf salesman catalog reprinted and published by David Clark a year or so back, but no folding knives. David still lists that very nice reproduction catalog on Ebay.

Is there a pattern number on the knife?

What is its closed length?

More than likely, there was an identical Robeson stamped version made and I might be able to find an image of that for blade comparison.

I suspect the master blade has been altered somewhat from its original shape.
 
CNoyes said:
R8Shell, I missed your posting of that Terrier jack.

Very nice, solid, honest old knife.

Catalog reprints of Terrier knives do not exist. There were a couple of Terrier kitchen knives still shown in a Robeson loose leaf salesman catalog reprinted and published by David Clark a year or so back, but no folding knives. David still lists that very nice reproduction catalog on Ebay.

Is there a pattern number on the knife?

What is its closed length?

More than likely, there was an identical Robeson stamped version made and I might be able to find an image of that for blade comparison.

I suspect the master blade has been altered somewhat from its original shape.
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Thanks for the info, Charlie
There is no pattern number. Both blades stamped: Terrier Cutlery Rochester N.Y.

Closed length is 3 3/8".
 
R8shell, thank you- that Terrier Stamp is pretty darned awesome!!! Great stuff to see, always nice to see Charlies follow up with information as well!
the Handle Material on the Pen Knife is gorgeous Ivory!
 
Charles,is that NYK swing guard stamped NYK or does it only have the pattern number on the back? The other two I've seen are marked such.[/QUOTE]

Lyle
The knife is not marked with NYK and there is a number on the reverse of which I can only read 86. Not sure if there is a 1 in front as the guard covers it up.
Charles
 
chuko said:
Charles,is that NYK swing guard stamped NYK or does it only have the pattern number on the back? The other two I've seen are marked such.
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Lyle
The knife is not marked with NYK and there is a number on the reverse of which I can only read 86. Not sure if there is a 1 in front as the guard covers it up.
Charles[/QUOTE]
Charles, I believe the Pattern number on that beautiful NYK swing guard is 186. I found it listed in Voyles book, Vol 1 page 236. Thanks for sharing that Rare knife. Barry
 
Barry, thanks for the reference. I have that book and found the drawing, looks like there was Hammer Brand out on the blade.

Charles
 
It's interesting that Terrier knives were only made for about six years, 1910 - 1916, and that two different tang stamps can be seen.

One is TERRIER / CUTLERY / ROCHESTER, N.Y.

The other simply states TERRIER / CUTLERY

I have no idea if one stamp predates the other or if they were selected for a particular blade due to the size of the tang.

I haven't really sat down and looked at the different knives to see if that might have been the case.

Some knives have pattern numbers, others do not, but on those that do, the two groups of three digits are in reversed order from their Robeson counterparts.

Some knives have the dog's head stamp, others do not.

I have never seen any Terrier advertising, knife boxes, post cards, print ads or anything like that relating to the marque.

Michael Losicco had word of a Terrier knife box a few years ago, but was unable to track it down.

I know of three Terrier display cases, one was in The National Knife Museum, one was owned by a fellow collector and the other belonged to a knife collector/dealer that I knew years ago. I have no idea what's happened to those.
 
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