"Old Knives"

This one arrived today. A unique Scout pattern with three blades, main spear, can opener/cap lifter and punch. All blades are solid with no play. It has a unique extention to the liner. I'm my opinion it's more for scraping versus a screwdriver as the liner is quite thin. It has almost perfect ebony/rosewood covers.

The tang stamp reads EDW.K.TRYON CO. PHILADELPHIA PA.

What little I've learned is they were a sporting good/hardware store out east from 1811 to 1911. If anyone has an idea of who made this knife for them I'd appreciate additional insight. As it's a very well made knife. I guess I don't see telltale signs of it leaning towards one particular maker?

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That is nice my friend - we both looked at that one. I just noticed the stampings are shouldered- = Cold Stamped.
 
Goins says that some of their knives were from England, most from the US. LG4 mentions Utica as a source of at least some of their knives.
 
Campbellclanman said:
That is nice my friend - we both looked at that one. I just noticed the stampings are shouldered- = Cold Stamped.
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Thank you Duncan, I hope I didn't step on your toes on this knife:o

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Goins says that some of their knives were from England, most from the US. LG4 mentions Utica as a source of at least some of their knives.
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Thanks for the additional info. I'm wondering if someone has a scout with that particular can opener/cap lifter. I can see this having a English heritage to it:)
 
I remember seein' somewhere that there was a chart dating scout/camp knives by the type of can opener they had, anyone know of such a chart?
 
Nice one Paul, Edw K. Tryon Company was in business in Philadelphia from 1811 to around 1952, I've found reference to it being Americas oldest sporting goods company. Their knives were sourced over the years from many different US and German companies.
I've been looking for a nice Barlow to go along with my 1923 A.H. Fox XE SxS shotgun that was originally ordered and sold thru the Edw. K. Tryon company but so far no luck. They moved a lot of quality hunting and fishing gear over their many years.
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Nice and rare one Paul, great addition. From what I've read Edward K Tryon were in business from 1811 to early 1950's. Their knives were made in England as well as in the US, some of them by Utica.

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Thanks John, Mike and Gev. Also thanks to you Ted and Phil for that link...interesting stuff. I guess my 1811-1911 was info on them celebrating their centennial.

John, I found several gun forums when searching for info on the company. They apparently offered some very nice rifles and shotguns.

Thanks guys, I love the input from everyone and what a vast wealth of info this subforum offers:thumbup:
 
paulhilborn said:
Thank you Duncan, I hope I didn't step on your toes on this knife:o



My friend, you could never step on my toes - and hey - if one day we do bid on the same knife and one of us wins -Im looking forward to the constant harassing and teasing that will follow! :D:thumbup:
I really like that knife - the Can Opener is something way cool and in total the WHOLE knife is pretty spectacular - like you say Paul the Ebony is drop dead gorgeous!

Nice link Philllll Im going to keep that as I am starting to gather a few Scouts etc :thumbup:
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Hello folks, great to see a nice Tryon hit the airwaves here! To keep the conversation going here's a nice old Tryon barlow I picked up a few years back and in great shape for its age. What got me about this one was the type used for the bolster stamp, very unique, and placement of the nail-nick on the mail blade. This particular knife was a contract knife from "NORTH AMERICAN BEAVER CITY NEB." which existed from 1921-1928 as per Goins. Sorry for the crappy pics but seeing Paul's scout made me want to respond tonight rather than wait till morning when natural light would have helped a bit. Either way, great convo here folks and always my favorite area of the porch! :thumbup:

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WOW Nick!!! what a BEAUTIFUL Tryon Barlow:cool::thumbup: until I came across this Scout I had never heard of Tryon before. I love all the info and insight coming in:thumbup:
 
The Tryons and Gardners are coming out of the woodwork!!:D

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This Gardner is made like yours, John, with integral bolsters - probably what yours would look like if finished and worn a bit!
 
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Just a point of interest here on an Vintage Knife..

Can I note that there is NO reflection on the seller who I got this knife from, it was very cheap - and not made out to be anything but it is.

I bought this knife, then fielded a couple of pm's to say that the knife didnt look right - I agree that the Sheeps-foot doesnt look right on the knife- but I bought this knife for my friend who lost his beautiful Stag 85 OE I bought him some time ago ( he found this about a week ago - tucked into his car seat ).

Carbon Steel Blades and lovely Bone- you cant go wrong for a user!

Anyway, my mate Paul shipped me over a handful of knives that had started to byild up at his place from me buying here there and everywhere...and I was interested in looking at this knife...

I think it has been restamped- well it doesnt take an expert to see this - The Remington has been stamped after the original stamping was ( poorly) ground off ( leaving remains of the stamping top and bottom)...so I thought I would share with you- out of pure interest.
carefully all around the Remington Stamp you can see careful sanding/refinishing - this I suspect was to remove any cold stamping tell-tells the Shouldering.

If you look carefully above the "T' of the you will see a thin stamping letter still left, also underneath the Stamp what looks like ..( missing letters )........USAGO. USA



The Sheep-foot has been modified to a Sheepsfoot inmo, you can see slight sanding marks on the curve of the spine. and the Swedge is not like any Factory Swedge I have seen - this one is very soft and slightly uneven.


I actually like this old thing anyway, noe that Brian has found his knife I am going to throw this into my EDC rotation, but I have a question....

I believe this is a Camillus Knife, but most Camillus Cattle knives of this size etc are 3 pinned not 4, the Bone is so strikingly familiar - even to my Pal knives - so what do you guys think this knife started off as?





 
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The Tryons and Gardners are coming out of the woodwork!!:D

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This Gardner is made like yours, John, with integral bolsters - probably what yours would look like if finished and worn a bit!
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Charlie, fantastic, great to see what the Gardner would look like if finished. Finished it looks closer to what I consider the traditional American Barlow while unfinished it looks like an English Barlow of the time period, the influence of the English cutlers is strong with this knife. The size of the Gardner is larger, consistent of American made Barlow's of the time. I think that is only the second one I have seen with that bolster stamp.


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Great Tryon also, has the Philadelphia address, looks to me to be American made, what do you think?
 
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