"Old Knives"

Campbellclanman said:
Just a point of interest here on an Vintage Knife..

Can I note that there is NO reflection on the seller who I got this knife from, it was very cheap - and not made out to be anything but it is.

I bought this knife, then fielded a couple of pm's to say that the knife didnt look right - I agree that the Sheeps-foot doesnt look right on the knife- but I bought this knife for my friend who lost his beautiful Stag 85 OE I bought him some time ago ( he found this about a week ago - tucked into his car seat ).

Carbon Steel Blades and lovely Bone- you cant go wrong for a user!

Anyway, my mate Paul shipped me over a handful of knives that had started to byild up at his place from me buying here there and everywhere...and I was interested in looking at this knife...

I think it has been restamped- well it doesnt take an expert to see this - The Remington has been stamped after the original stamping was ( poorly) ground off ( leaving remains of the stamping top and bottom)...so I thought I would share with you- out of pure interest.
carefully all around the Remington Stamp you can see careful sanding/refinishing - this I suspect was to remove any cold stamping tell-tells the Shouldering.

If you look carefully above the "T' of the you will see a thin stamping letter still left, also underneath the Stamp what looks like ..( missing letters )........USAGO. USA



The Sheep-foot has been modified to a Sheepsfoot inmo, you can see slight sanding marks on the curve of the spine. and the Swedge is not like any Factory Swedge I have seen - this one is very soft and slightly uneven.


I actually like this old thing anyway, noe that Brian has found his knife I am going to throw this into my EDC rotation, but I have a question....

I believe this is a Camillus Knife, but most Camillus Cattle knives of this size etc are 3 pinned not 4, the Bone is so strikingly familiar - even to my Pal knives - so what do you guys think this knife started off as?
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Duncan, I agree, definitely not an original Remington, I'm thinking with the remnants of the Chicago USA tang stamp the blade anyways started out from a Klein Tools knife, who made the knives for Klein I do not know, maybe Camillus.
Sometimes a quick giveaway that a knife has been worked are the 4 pins although some knives have 4 pins. I've seen this on a couple Barlows awhile back that I bought, mine are the only ones I've seen that have 4 and the bone looks different than known good examples but as you stated with the Remington I bought them as an attractive user.
Your knife will make a good looking user, enjoy it buddy.
 
Duncan, it's still quite a good looking old knife, with a great set of blades for EDC. If it's tight and snappy, I'd use it and use it and . . . .
 


Found this at a junk store(like a flea market) for $1.50 not sure if it is common or not but I haven't seen another since
 


Found this on the ground at a public park. Stopped and asked several folks that were around where I found it no one claimed it so i brought it home and gave it the best treatment I could adding it to the collection
 
Duncan, that's a great knife and one that would go in an edc rotation in a heartbeat. I know "JACK KNIFE BEN" had the word Chicago in their tang stamp but yet I think it would've been placed differently? Plus Jack Knife Ben would be an older knife. I agree with Klein knives having Chicago on their tang stamp. I definitely see camillus in the covers, as well as a little bit of Utica/Pal.

Nothing like a good mystery my friend, still it such a great knife:thumbup:
 
Thanks guys. Thank you Augie, Jeff, S P, and Paul 👍
I am not familiar with the Chicago, USA Stamp- it slots in nicely- and that's all we need because the knife was bought for a user- and it's a darned fine looking one at that- at first I thought it was a Camillus made Remington - but wasn't at all worried because of .... A - the price compared to the looks of the knife-
B- it was going to a farm as a every day user- I was going to gift Brian one of my HJ's - but because he is on the Farm - he is a real user of the knives I get him- but he does tend to loose them at times- and I was shattered that he lost the beautiful Stag 85 EO- it was gone for a good couple of months.

Being Carbon If ever found it was going to be toast- so when this lovely Boned Jack came up - PERFECT! Vintage and beautiful.

Thankfully the 85 was found in the crease at the back of his car seat- so - this Ol' girl can stay with me- in my ed rotation until such time I see someone in need of a lovely knife to start off their fever in Traditionals.
This knife has lots of use and missions to look forward to.

Thank you for the comments Gents.
 
I have always been a fan of J.A Henckels Knives, I personally think that they match any cutler - in saying this I dont have the knowledge to 100% make that call when you compare the knives of such to say early Empire Knives etc, but - now this is me thinking out aloud.... did America not learn from the very Early Sheffield and Solingen Cultlers?
Anyway......back to Henckels.... every time I pick up a Henckels- its a very very well made knife, I have always thought that I should take a closer look at these knives and get to know them a bit more, so I hope that you like the following knives, I realise Solingen knives dont have the Collector following that the early American knives do - I still scratch my head at this and wonder why - when you see knives like this......

Henckels Whittler - man this thing is a stunner - beautiful Stag to die for, the walk and talk tells it all, the Main Blade id very similar to the Sabre Camillus that went over to Charlie ( The 30,s Streamline ) and the blade is THICK!!! as in the case of a lot of Whittlers the Main takes up the two springs - a simply amazing knife..





Others join the Whittler- mainly Stockman - Im not the hugest fan of a Stockman model - yet dont hate it either and I appreciate any well made knife, so here are a few more Vintage Henckels that again - all are superbly made, the walk and talk, the half stops in some (some dont have half stops) crisply and clearly do their thing, its a pleasure to own these knives, some have been used, and I am at the stage now that - well hell yeah if I can get a Mint one- every time that is the first choice for collecting - but I truly appreciate looking at a knife that has had honest use, ben well looked after - leaving the knife in still beautiful condition.

I apreciate your comments be it like or not the early Solingen knives - and why?

The Stag on these knives is just something else, i do think that from now my collectiuon will gather a few more Solingen ( earlier) knives, heres why..........

All the knife photos are taken on beautiful New Zealand Native Rimu - which now can no longer be milled...





Joining this smaller group is a STUNNING Whittler gifted to me by our good friend Mike Berkovich, this particular Whittler- as Mike said has presentation grade Stag without a doubt, also joing is another Premier Stockman that has all the goodies- Jigged bone thats just awesome, MatchStrike Long Pull - just a great knife...







Hope you like them.
 
While the topic is so hot on Pruners as of late with our Mr. Paul Hilborn acquiring some absolute stunning Red Bone Case Pruners - Whilst rummaging around I came across this nice old Saynor I havent handled for a while- it was a pleasure to get it out again -check it over - re-oil the old girl...



 
One thing that has always been burning in the back of my mind is to gather a few nice old Scout knives OR Cattle knives - I think some of the older ones are actually quite stunning, I came across this- with the help of Paul scouting ( pardon the pun) for me....

I will start to slowly acquire these Im thinking, while concentrating on my HJ's...

I am delighted with the knife- when I saw this I appreciated the knife immediately, Camillus built - and stamped "High Carbon Steel" Craftsman ( Sears? ) What makes it even better - this knife has had very little use - it's in superb condition - today is a good day my friends!

Man..I love this knife -Paul has a couple at his house that I have bought so I havent got to see those ones yet, I may bring them along to the Rendezvous next year.....





I love the configuration of Blades - and that magic wee Punch......





Just look how all these blades slot in so perfectly - what a wonderfully built knife.....





 
Here's a BEAUTIFUL Schrade Cut Co that Rob, aka Primble gifted me sometime back. It sat for a spell as I was hesitant to put it to work. I could only resist so long. Since then I have carried it while doing handyman jobs for the last six months or so.

What an ideal work knife and then ad the beautiful covers that I sometimes stop in my task at hand just to admire, what a great knife/work knife this really is. I feel the sheepfoot has been shortened but aside from that the blades remain in tact. They are pitted but absolutely SOLID. I love the smaller jigging in the center of the bone and how is becomes larger as the pattern branches out. Thank you Rob👏

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Next is another gift from my close friend Duncan, he is so generous and continuously sends me BEAUTIFUL knives. He got me hooked on Pruners and gifted me this wonderful Henkels with terrific wood covers. Rosewood, Cocobolo? The sheen from the wood is mirror like. An added touch are the rattail bolsters. The neat thing with Pruners is how they differ from company to company. I love this Pruner!!! Thank you Duncan👊

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Next is a another great Robeson Pruner from my brother Mark, aka Markesharp. A true workhorse. I keep this in our bedding warehouse where we also load up customers and recieve freight. It cuts nylon twine, heavy cardboard, plastic sacks and zip ties on an almost daily bases and hardly bats an eye. Thanks Mark👍

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Paul my friend we posted at the same time :-)

Mate- LOVE them Pruners matey!that Schrade Bone is to die for!!! Oh man!! I can see why you would stop and admire that knife Paul.
 
Bought this one of our mate Jake, the reason?...well I will climb over bodies to get at a nice early Sheffield, some are exquisite examples of Master Cutlers show pieces, others are pure Workhorse Tanks - this would be better described as the later......

Needham- a great name in early Sheffield days, built this Sheepsfoot - I wanted this example- A... It was a Sheffield Sheeps-foot, but also B ....it was a twin Bladed example which you simply dont see a lot of now.......
Jigged Bone, the jigging style was used in this period frequently - by a lot of Cutlers in Sheffield, Why? I am not too sure on that- perhaps simply it was the Bees Knees at that time, not quite as deep and beautiful as other examples you can get - but still darned nice.....Age?...Im going to guess it's 1930's - 1940's?









If you dropped this on your Toe, Im taking you would feel this for a few days lol.... it's a great knife and I love it to bits...

 
Dang Duncan you have been busy buddy, they are all beautiful old knives but man oh man that pruner so rare with a full blade and beautiful old stag.


Paul, that Schrade 3 blade is also a stunner and I would imagine a pretty hard to find knife, just wonderful.
 
Campbellclanman said:
Henckels Whittler - man this thing is a stunner - beautiful Stag to die for, the walk and talk tells it all, the Main Blade id very similar to the Sabre Camillus that went over to Charlie ( The 30,s Streamline ) and the blade is THICK!!! as in the case of a lot of Whittlers the Main takes up the two springs - a simply amazing knife..

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That Henkels is a fantastic, stunning knife. :thumbup: The main blade grind, the bone - it all just pops! They're all great knives, Duncan!
 
Beautiful knives Duncan, each and every one of them:thumbup:

Here's a knife that I feel qualifies for this thread. It's old, how old, I'm not sure. Original production from Kabar? I think NOT. Is it a parts knife? I'd say most definately. Have I been wrong before? Quite often. So I see this as a conversation knife.

I bought it with my own thoughts about what this is. I love the blade configuration but I don't don't think it was ever manufactured this way. It has wonderful bone covers, nice "KABAR" Shield and poorly done rat tail bolsters, again not factory in my opinion. The blades are pretty solid with just the tinest play/wiggle to the sheepfoot only. Really pretty good f&f, no gaps in the liners at all.

If this is an original please let me know. I feel it's a parts knife but not a factory parts knife by a Kabar employee. Anyway please weigh in with thoughts as any information is appreciated.

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