"Old Knives"

The pleasure of collecting antique knives is partly found in discovering rare tang stamps.
Deserves a thread just to list them!!
 
Some older knives that came my way after a boisterous and jolly trading session at our last club meeting of the year!
A TL-29 type knife from PAL, 1940-1942 after they acquired Remington. Rem stamp, PAL etch!
Full Winchester Hawkbill.
Old, worn Needham Cattle knife with killer stag on both sides, and,
A Joseph Rodgers, 2-thick sportsman's knife with Pachyderm handles.
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Some older knives that came my way after a boisterous and jolly trading session at our last club meeting of the year!
A TL-29 type knife from PAL, 1940-1942 after they acquired Remington. Rem stamp, PAL etch!
Full Winchester Hawkbill.
Old, worn Needham Cattle knife with killer stag on both sides, and,
A Joseph Rodgers, 2-thick sportsman's knife with Pachyderm handles.
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Very cool waynorth! I dug up some government documents on the TL-29 WWII models a while back... I will post some images when I find them. If I remember right it was a purchase order from the US Govt to different manufacturers requesting certain quantities of the TL-29.
 
VP - I’m liking very much the Knives you are showing. Thank you for sharing.
That Valley Forge with the etch - have those Blades been refurbished- in the Pen Blade at the tip you can see patterns in the Steel - and quite a uniform finish of “ brushing” marks. I think that’s quite a cool knife.

Charlie- Love them - re our recent discussion - it’s great to see the Joseph Rodgers- what a Knife!
That Needham - it’s rare that you see that particular patterned Jack - is the secondary Blade a Pen or a Sheeps- foot, Lambs foot or Coping? I can see a sudden drop of from the Spine to tip.
Outstanding Stag on that example my friend.
Stunner Winchester too and the transitional Pal TL is a beaut!
Would it be correct to label this TL 29 a transitional knife between the two companies with such Stamping and etch?
 
Some older knives that came my way after a boisterous and jolly trading session at our last club meeting of the year!
A TL-29 type knife from PAL, 1940-1942 after they acquired Remington. Rem stamp, PAL etch!
Full Winchester Hawkbill.
Old, worn Needham Cattle knife with killer stag on both sides, and,
A Joseph Rodgers, 2-thick sportsman's knife with Pachyderm handles.
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Love the stag on the Needham :eek: The Winchester to :cool: for school...wow !!! Such an interesting transition TL and the Rodgers is bristling with utility :D:thumbsup::thumbsup: Always a treat Charlie. Thank you !!

Edit...too funny Duncan..we are on the same wave length...lol
 
Another warime PAL electrian's knife. Not often seen with bone scales.
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Very cool waynorth! I dug up some government documents on the TL-29 WWII models a while back... I will post some images when I find them. If I remember right it was a purchase order from the US Govt to different manufacturers requesting certain quantities of the TL-29.

Here are the documents I was talking about... pretty cool to see a historical purchase order for one of the classic and useful pocket knives :D

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Interesting documents, v_p! I will print them out!!
I think my Pal/Remington must be a civilian version, as it is not marked "TL-29".
Can you show us the main blade tang stamp on yours L leghog ??

P.S. I guess "transitional" is a good name/description for that knife, Duncan!
 
Naturally I did all that research for a reason... I've got a couple ;) The two Ulster Knife Co ones have U.S.N. stamp on handles and the Schrade Cut Co / Ulster Knife USA have TL-29 stamp on the handles. I think I have seen a few that have TL-29 on the shield but I would think after awhile they found it as a waste of metal to be sending into war. I find it interesting that the Schrade Cut Co is the only one with steel liners / lock and the others have brass but it does note in the spec that many were made with brass. That was the main reason for my research on these knives because I doubted the ones that had brass but that document leads me to believe that the U.S.N. ones are the real deal. The Schrade Cut Co is an awesomely made knife with full snap on open / mid / close... when it snaps shut I can hear the original cutlers saying "go win us a war" :thumbsup:

- Kevin (V_P)

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Nice collection, v_p!! There is such a variety of those War-era issue TLs!!

So it seems like that Sheffield Cattle knife deserves a couple more views:
All tangs are stamped both sides. I have seen that "bellied" spey on other Sheffield stock/cattle knives. And the punch is way cool, hey Duncan??
The Main is stamped FARM KNIFE over HAND FORGED.
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Whoa!
I didn’t see a punch in the original post Charlie!!!!!
Even Better!!
Ok seeing all dem Blades now! What a great mix of Blade/ Tools on a striking Knife! How’s that for beautifuly cut Swedge work!
 
The swedges are still sharp! I was afraid this knife was rehandled, but I can find no signs of that. The parts are all original, IMO. The punch was carefully shaped - it's quite sculptural!!
 
Interesting documents, v_p! I will print them out!!
I think my Pal/Remington must be a civilian version, as it is not marked "TL-29".
Can you show us the main blade tang stamp on yours L leghog ??

P.S. I guess "transitional" is a good name/description for that knife, Duncan!
I'm unaware any PAL electrician knives were actual TL-29s (Signal Corps knives marked as such or with TL-29). PAL did make electrician knives for the Army's General Mechanics Tool Kit but the wood scaled ones were US ARMY stamped into one of the scales. Also regarding PAL folders, I'm under the impression that all knives tang stamped PAL BLADE CO (vs PAL CUTLERY CO) were made to fulfill government contracts. Your PAL electrician likely predates any government contracts.
 
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A friend recently gave me this Imperial equal end jack, and I absolutely love it! I’ve carried it all week and don’t plan on putting it up anytime soon.
About the only flaw with the knife is the fact that it’s been heavily cleaned. Other than that it is tight with firm and crisp walk and talk. The blades are full, and it is wonderfully thin for a jack of its size.
Doing a quick search of imperial tang stamps puts it between 1930-1936.
If any one could point me towards an imperial catalogue from that period it would be greatly appreciated.
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I have a few older (than me) guys joining me today when I get together with some younger (than me) buddies for cocktails this afternoon.

A Camillus EO jack (1941-1946, 4 line stamp on one blade).

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An Empire bare head jack (Winstead, CT, 1856-1930) with a spare pin hole.

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And a New York Knife Co. (Walden) Hammer Brand pruner (with appropriate shield touting a fertilizer company). This one may put into "time-out" for a while, as it bit me today while I was using it to help my wife make up pine roping and boxwood trimmings for our exterior doorways. All's well - small cut. May have to apply alcohol later.

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I date this knife at 1890-1932, as that tang stamp was used by NYKC 1878-1932, but the fertilizer company wasn't founded in Hawaii until 1890.

- Stuart
 
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