"Old Knives"

[veitsi_poika]

Well since it's -20 degrees outside, I'm on a paid day off from work and we're showing pretty pictures of knives... why not show off this Ulster Abalone stockman?




- V_P

 

[Duckdog]

Two unusual knives - to me. A Kirkham & Co., Sheffield, equal end sleeve board pen. I can't find any information on Kirkham (Goins merely mentions them).

A lever lock by A.C. Mfg. Co., Martinette, Wis. Goins marks the knife brand period as 1912-1950, but the patent for the lever lock was not granted until October 23, 1916. The company, formerly Aerial Cutlery Manufacturing Co. (knives dropped in 1950's), now operates as a beauty salon supplier in Martinette. I read in an AAPK thread that this model was limited to 600 knives, but I can not confirm that. Apparently, the company was a major knife producer for almost 40 years.

- Stuart

 

[veitsi_poika]

Two unusual knives - to me. A Kirkham & Co., Sheffield, equal end sleeve board pen. I can't find any information on Kirkham (Goins merely mentions them).

A lever lock by A.C. Mfg. Co., Martinette, Wis. Goins marks the knife brand period as 1912-1950, but the patent for the lever lock was not granted until October 23, 1916. The company, formerly Aerial Cutlery Manufacturing Co. (knives dropped in 1950's), now operates as a beauty salon supplier in Martinette. I read in an AAPK thread that this model was limited to 600 knives, but I can not confirm that. Apparently, the company was a major knife producer for almost 40 years.

- Stuart

Hi Stuart- that Aerial Cut Co is awesome! Marinette Wi is about an hour from me, I try to pick up their knives whenever I see them. They were big on ''picture style'' advertising knives with clear cell handles and a variety of pictures from risque nudes to rustic scenes. The brass cowboy knife from Jaeger Bros Cutlery I posted a few weeks ago became Aerial Cutlery originating in Duluth MN and then moved to Marinette. Here is a link to that brass knife I posted previously:
"Old Knives"
I have a couple Aerial knives that I'm going to post this week with questions I have on the handle material, one of them looks like hardened leather
- Kevin

 

[Duckdog]

Hi Stuart- that Aerial Cut Co is awesome! Marinette Wi is about an hour from me, I try to pick up their knives whenever I see them. They were big on ''picture style'' advertising knives with clear cell handles and a variety of pictures from risque nudes to rustic scenes. The brass cowboy knife from Jaeger Bros Cutlery I posted a few weeks ago became Aerial Cutlery originating in Duluth MN and then moved to Marinette. Here is a link to that brass knife I posted previously:
"Old Knives"
I have a couple Aerial knives that I'm going to post this week with questions I have on the handle material, one of them looks like hardened leather
- Kevin

Thanks, Kevin. Yes, the Jaeger brothers blew me away with their industrious approach. If they only could have sustained their knife making prowess. Oh, what could have been.
- Stuart

 

[Rostovsky]

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Тhe knife is called a «kolhoznik» . The most accurate translation of the word «kolhoznik» is a «red neck».

 

[rockman0]

Old Sheffield by Alfred Blackwell. She's seen some use but lots of life left, blade snaps hard opening and closing with no play.

 

[wlfryjr]

Some don't follow the "Roosters and farmers" thread,so here is the latest old farmers jack. As most of this pattern were made WWI era or before, they are at home in the “ Old Knives” thread.

Almost 4 1/8” (a little oversized), stag Krusius Brothers, stamped KB Extra. This is a German knife with coined liners, atypical for this pattern and the pragmatic rather than esthetic approach of German cutlers . The only other non custom I've seen with coined liners was another German knife, a Wester Bros., go figure.

 

[galvanic1882]

Love that Rooster Lyle, was glad to see you got it. Here's my oldie for the day, Case Brothers doctor's knife

 

[wlfryjr]

You have an amazing collection Mike and thanks. I’m glad too.

 

[galvanic1882]

Thanks Lyle, they are fun going after and of course getting them!!

 

[Campbellclanman]

I agree Lyle - Galvanic’s collection is stunning from what I can see!
Lyle for such an Elusive pattern you have absolutely amazed me with your ability to be able to form such a formidable collection of outstanding Farmers Jacks- this gorgeous example being just one of them.
That Ulster you kindly shared with us had blown me away- that to me is a find if s lifetime- yet you have many like this.

It’s great to se you posting again regularly Lyle- I hope all is well my friend.

 

[wlfryjr]

Thanks Duncan. It was such a pleasure for us to meet and talk with you and Paul.

I now carry the farmers jack Paul gave me. It’s still sharp as a briar. Good steel in that old Lockwood.

 

[herder]

Two unusual knives - to me. A Kirkham & Co., Sheffield, equal end sleeve board pen. I can't find any information on Kirkham (Goins merely mentions them).

A lever lock by A.C. Mfg. Co., Martinette, Wis. Goins marks the knife brand period as 1912-1950, but the patent for the lever lock was not granted until October 23, 1916. The company, formerly Aerial Cutlery Manufacturing Co. (knives dropped in 1950's), now operates as a beauty salon supplier in Martinette. I read in an AAPK thread that this model was limited to 600 knives, but I can not confirm that. Apparently, the company was a major knife producer for almost 40 years.

- Stuart

While that A. C. Mfg. is an attractive and well made knife, it is not an original model. It was part of a group that was reproduced in the 1980s and was nearly an exact copy of the original Aerial models from circa 1920s. Union Cutlery also offered this same knife with their stamp during the 1920s era (some had a "Dog Head" shield, and some did not). Aside from the few slight measurement differences, the dead give away in determining an original from a reproduced model is the lever which is quite different between the early and late models. Both the original Aerial and Union Cut. Co. variations are very rare and the Aerial types are usually seen with celluloid handles (a common trait for Aerial), while the Union Cut. models are seen with bone handles. Here is an original Aerial model for comparison to the posted model.

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[herder]

Nice examples, Rostovsky and rockman0.
wlfryjr and galvanic, those two knives really get my attention.

 

[Duckdog]

While that A. C. Mfg. is an attractive and well made knife, it is not an original model. It was part of a group that was reproduced in the 1980s and was nearly an exact copy of the original Aerial models from circa 1920s. Union Cutlery also offered this same knife with their stamp during the 1920s era (some had a "Dog Head" shield, and some did not). Aside from the few slight measurement differences, the dead give away in determining an original from a reproduced model is the lever which is quite different between the early and late models. Both the original Aerial and Union Cut. Co. variations are very rare and the Aerial types are usually seen with celluloid handles (a common trait for Aerial), while the Union Cut. models are seen with bone handles. Here is an original Aerial model for comparison to the posted model.

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Herder, thanks for the clarification. I can see that the newer lever is longer and less contoured/rounded than the original. Who produced the repros? I understood that A.C. Mfg was out of knife production by the 1950's. BTW, the handle on your knife is hypnotic.
- Stuart

 

[herder]

Thanks, the handle is tortoise celluloid. Also look closely at the pattern in the lever. The originals have circles, whereas the reproduction models have a cross hatch diamond type pattern. A bit of a mystery as to who actually made the reproductions, I have heard from a few sources that they were made in Germany???

 

[Gevonovich]

I was inspired by the magnificence galvanic1882 . Hope you don't mind ?

 

[Gevonovich]

While that A. C. Mfg. is an attractive and well made knife, it is not an original model. It was part of a group that was reproduced in the 1980s and was nearly an exact copy of the original Aerial models from circa 1920s. Union Cutlery also offered this same knife with their stamp during the 1920s era (some had a "Dog Head" shield, and some did not). Aside from the few slight measurement differences, the dead give away in determining an original from a reproduced model is the lever which is quite different between the early and late models. Both the original Aerial and Union Cut. Co. variations are very rare and the Aerial types are usually seen with celluloid handles (a common trait for Aerial), while the Union Cut. models are seen with bone handles. Here is an original Aerial model for comparison to the posted model.

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Your collection and knowledge astounds me ! Thanks for sharing

 

[Duckdog]

Thanks, the handle is tortoise celluloid. Also look closely at the pattern in the lever. The originals have circles, whereas the reproduction models have a cross hatch diamond type pattern. A bit of a mystery as to who actually made the reproductions, I have heard from a few sources that they were made in Germany???

Thanks, again. This is information that I didn't have. Love this thread!
- Stuart

 

[veitsi_poika]

While that A. C. Mfg. is an attractive and well made knife, it is not an original model. It was part of a group that was reproduced in the 1980s and was nearly an exact copy of the original Aerial models from circa 1920s. Union Cutlery also offered this same knife with their stamp during the 1920s era (some had a "Dog Head" shield, and some did not). Aside from the few slight measurement differences, the dead give away in determining an original from a reproduced model is the lever which is quite different between the early and late models. Both the original Aerial and Union Cut. Co. variations are very rare and the Aerial types are usually seen with celluloid handles (a common trait for Aerial), while the Union Cut. models are seen with bone handles. Here is an original Aerial model for comparison to the posted model.

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Good info Herder considering there is one of the reproductions on the market currently for a B.I.N. of $700!