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SpyderJon said:In short, yes. The knife is designed so you CAN use a "forward grip" for fine control if you want to, but that isn't necessary. The handle on these hovers at right around 4" I believe, but there is more than enough room to get your whole hand on the handle. You don't have to use the choil if you don't want to. Whoever told you that was either feeding you a line, hasn't thought much about the design, or hasn't actually used one of these knives. The SNG/SMF- like ALL knives- is designed for work, but you could easily use one as an SD knife if you needed to. Rest easy, it has a full handle.
oregon said:Jimmy123 did you consider, in your search for a rugged folder, the new Kershaw Zero Tolerance 300, orderable through Tad Gear? If you did then what about it put you off?
I think of it as a Strider w/o the quality control issue. Its on my list. Thank you.
http://www.tadgear.com/edged tools/zt0300.htm
Best,
oregon
naccibobacci said:Jimmy, put yourself in an objective frame of mind, close your eyes and pick up your new SNG. Forget that you just spent 400$$ on it. Forget about Striders mystique and reputation. Act as if this SNG was one of many knives that were on demo. Is the handle comfortable? Is this the knife that you have been searching for up untill this point? Does that rear heel dig into the palm of your hand? Do you wish that handle heel curved and sat more flush against your palm? Tell us what you think.
bladeprince said:Maybe this should be in a new thread (I can start one if necessary) but my understanding of the SNG is that it's designed for a "forward grip" (that phase was given to me my a custom knife maker). The knife is designed so that the first finger is on the choil. If one grips only the handle, that places the hand so far back that about an inch of the hand sticks out the back. That does not provide a strong grip.
I like to be able to use a "forward grip" if I want to (i.e. like on the Manix) but I don't want to be forced into having to grip the knife that way (i.e. Manix handle designed to accomodate my entire hand).
So, from what I can tell, this knife is mostly design as a work knife. I would surely not want to use a "foward grip" in a self defense situation because of the possiblity of my hand sliding forward onto the blade if I stabed anything really solid. And if I do not use the "forward grip" and only grip the handle, then I only have about 3 inches of handle to hold onto. That's not very secure for a self defense situation.
It seems that the SNG, although looking very "tactical", is really a work knife. In a pinch, anything will do but if one wanted an EDC mostly for self-defense, this knife would not be a good choice.
Am I incorrect about this?
proguide said:I bought a SNG and literally had it for 5-10 minutes before I sent it back for a refund. It had bad bladeplay and a very uneven edge. I know it could have been sent in, but there was NO way I was going to spend $400 on a production knife that was not exactly how I wanted it. If you can handle one first, that's your best bet. You shouldn't have to wonder what you are getting for 400 clams though. Just my thoughts.
slide13 said:I like Striders. I don't currently have one but I have had a PT, SNG, SMF, AR and MSC SNG in the past. They are really stoutly built and excellently designed hard use folders. They aren't about the flawless fit and finish of a Sebenza or many of the custom knives in their price range, but when it comes to a good using knife I think they are pretty much right on target for really hard use.
Are they worth the money....yeah, I think so. I've handled some of the other knives mentioned by others in this thread (and have owned a couple) and I truly don't think they hold a candle to the Striders. And really, lets put things into perspective, $400 while a fair amount of money for a knfie isn't all that much for something you are going to use and carry everday for a long long time to come. It's barely over a dollar a day just spread out over the first year....and a Strider will barely be broken in by then![]()
jimmy123 said:It seems like all the handles (smg) and such have that kinf of shape where is bigger at the bottom. I think as for as tactical use, the top part of the handle should be big even so your hand would not slip toward the blade...
Luopo said:I sold all my Burger knives
http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000555;p=1
That forum you linked to is run by Mad Dog. Wasn't Mad Dog (Kevin McClung) a "Professional Soldier" for 5....er....2 years? BTW, what branch of the U.S. Military did Mad Dog serve his 5....er....2 years in?:jerkit:Luopo said:I sold all my Burger knives
http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000555;p=1
Horned Toad said:if it is public record cant they post a link instead of adding their thoughts, I would much rather read court records than something that mclung has posted
bladeprince said:In hammer grip I agree. I'm just not sure if the handle is long enough for what I like in a hammer grip handle. I really need to handle one to know for sure.
I LIKE the looks of the Kershaw ZT. Although I don't get the point of the "tiger stripes". I think they are ugly and draw attention to the knife. It would much prefer a blade blade for "stealth". If you look at the pictures on the Strider web sit of the specail ops guys holding their knives, it's quite obvious that a black blade would be harder to see. That will probably stop be from buying one right there. I do see, that it is NOT designed for forward grip and much better as a tactical knife. Thanks for the info, Oregon.
Regards
Luopo said:I sold all my Burger knives
http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000555;p=1