Ontario RAT & TAK knives review

cabala said:
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You may host your pictures for free on Photobucket and then use the image option in your post to link to those images. With regards to a picture I have no idea what you're talking about, but please indulge us with whatever it is you want to share. However, I am quite familiar with the RAT Cutlery lineup, and use the RC-3 as a daily carry knife for hard-use tasks and it has performed flawlessly in every regard.

The RTAK is part of the Ontario Knife Company line designed by Jeff Randall and Mike Perrin of RAT, but were not produced to the standard they would have liked, hence why they split off and made their own company. That being said, the Ontario RAT line has still been held in high regard with a majority of the cutlery community--they just aren't as good as the RAT Cutlery-produced knives produced for Jeff and Mike by Rowen Manufacturing (the same company that produces the TOPS brand of knives).
 
Sigh...

I hope I'm not the only one hopelessly confused by this thread.

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I myself like the RAT, but am prone to carry one of the RC series over their Ontario counterparts. I do support RAT Cutlery.
 
FWIW, mine had off grinds and wasn't very sharp with too thick of an edge. It was also heavier than I thought i'd ever need in a sheath knife so I happily traded to another BF member. I will say it was built like a tank though and seemed one of those knives you could beat the heck out of without fear of damaging it.
 
crom said:
FWIW, mine had off grinds and wasn't very sharp with too thick of an edge. It was also heavier than I thought i'd ever need in a sheath knife so I happily traded to another BF member. I will say it was built like a tank though and seemed one of those knives you could beat the heck out of without fear of damaging it.
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Which one did you own?
 
Bolt said:
I have a TAK and love it. Tough Knife and not that bad in price. Sheath is a little weak, but if you attach it to your day pack it works fine. I have battoned with mine, sliced rope with ease, and made curl sticks for a fire with no need to resharpen afterwards. RAT makes very tough knives, and has many followers to prove it. Spend more time in the woods and less time in your kitchen and in front of your computer. You have no idea what you are talking about. We all see through the shady review and poor typing.
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What you " all see "? Don't understand what you mean?
 
how the holy hell does arterial bleeding figure into this? I have a TAK and think its an excellent user knife and i have done things to it that would constitute abuse to most knives but the TAK just takes it. i cant wait until i can get one of the RAT knives made by RAT cutlery.
 
razorsdescent said:
how the holy hell does arterial bleeding figure into this? I have a TAK and think its an excellent user knife and i have done things to it that would constitute abuse to most knives but the TAK just takes it. i cant wait until i can get one of the RAT knives made by RAT cutlery.
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I think everyone is trying to figure out what that has to do with anything..... I'd love to hear the OP's reasoning for including that little tidbit.....

I'm in the opposite position, I've got a RAT and plan on getting a TAK soon. I have the RC-3 in question, and I don't see how it's "too short". It's meant to be a small utility blade. I've used it to make fire starting material, food prep, cutting rope, paracord, cardboard, leather, gel insoles for my work boots, and numerous other tasks. It's not designed to be a huge "Rambo Knife", but it works well as a small EDC fixed blade. As for the blade being too wide, I completely disagree, it's perfect for what the blade is designed to do. And as for the sheath, I don't know which model your referring to, but they make a version that has a retention strap to keep the blade firmly in the sheath. I personally have the basic model, where the blade is held in place by friction, and the knife has never once come loose. Again, it's all about knowing the intended use for a tool, and then using said tool properly.

Like others have said, if your not here to learn more, and share constructive criticism in a format that is understandable, then you will be treated as a troll. Please try to expand your knowledge a little more before you decide to post something like this again.
 
razorsdescent said:
how the holy hell does arterial bleeding figure into this? I have a TAK and think its an excellent user knife and i have done things to it that would constitute abuse to most knives but the TAK just takes it. i cant wait until i can get one of the RAT knives made by RAT cutlery.
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When you must cut cloth to reach wound, every intend ( or even serrated edge ) on blade can couse hitch wich isn't good.
 
De4thStr1ke said:
I think everyone is trying to figure out what that has to do with anything..... I'd love to hear the OP's reasoning for including that little tidbit.....

I'm in the opposite position, I've got a RAT and plan on getting a TAK soon. I have the RC-3 in question, and I don't see how it's "too short". It's meant to be a small utility blade. I've used it to make fire starting material, food prep, cutting rope, paracord, cardboard, leather, gel insoles for my work boots, and numerous other tasks. It's not designed to be a huge "Rambo Knife", but it works well as a small EDC fixed blade. As for the blade being too wide, I completely disagree, it's perfect for what the blade is designed to do. And as for the sheath, I don't know which model your referring to, but they make a version that has a retention strap to keep the blade firmly in the sheath. I personally have the basic model, where the blade is held in place by friction, and the knife has never once come loose. Again, it's all about knowing the intended use for a tool, and then using said tool properly.

Like others have said, if your not here to learn more, and share constructive criticism in a format that is understandable, then you will be treated as a troll. Please try to expand your knowledge a little more before you decide to post something like this again.
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RAT and TAK are actualy " Rambo " or " Tom Brown " knives. Intended to be in movies and nothing else.
By the way, Ontario knives are quality made and you wouldn't be dissapointed, but function of knives ( Ontario or RC ) is very restricted. If i'm in army or some type of security buissnes, even in other activities ( expeditions, extreme sports, outdoors, fishing, hunting... ) these knives would be my latest choice. From 1-5 rating i'll give them 1 wich meens "use because is nothing else left ".
 
FortyTwoBlades said:
You may host your pictures for free on Photobucket and then use the image option in your post to link to those images. With regards to a picture I have no idea what you're talking about, but please indulge us with whatever it is you want to share. However, I am quite familiar with the RAT Cutlery lineup, and use the RC-3 as a daily carry knife for hard-use tasks and it has performed flawlessly in every regard.

The RTAK is part of the Ontario Knife Company line designed by Jeff Randall and Mike Perrin of RAT, but were not produced to the standard they would have liked, hence why they split off and made their own company. That being said, the Ontario RAT line has still been held in high regard with a majority of the cutlery community--they just aren't as good as the RAT Cutlery-produced knives produced for Jeff and Mike by Rowen Manufacturing (the same company that produces the TOPS brand of knives).
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I haven't any of TOPS knives so can talk about anything but seems to me, this is 100 % commercial cutlery who actualy not making knives ( like Buck, Boker, Puma, CS... ) then " product " wich, off course, must be very attractive but not necessarly functional. " Every merchandise has his own customer! "
 
cabala said:
RAT and TAK are actualy " Rambo " or " Tom Brown " knives. Intended to be in movies and nothing else.
By the way, Ontario knives are quality made and you wouldn't be dissapointed, but function of knives ( Ontario or RC ) is very restricted. If i'm in army or some type of security buissnes, even in other activities ( expeditions, extreme sports, outdoors, fishing, hunting... ) these knives would be my latest choice. From 1-5 rating i'll give them 1 wich meens "use because is nothing else left ".
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I take issue with most of what you say, but this statement in particular bugs the hell out of me. I really don't think you've ever handled a RAT knife before, else you wouldn't make this statement. Ask any of us who have it and use it for outdoor activities, and I'll bet you everyone comes back with a positive review. I've seen pics of the RC3 dressing out a deer, and it looks to do a wonderful job. I was going to take mine with me this year on a hunt, but I had to back out due to work. I have, however, done some butchering work with it, and it out performs any of the other knives I have in the same class. I plan on doing a little varmint hunting this weekend, and the RC3 is the knife that will be going with me. It cuts everything I throw at it, and cuts it well.

You mention that it wouldn't function well in the "security business". While I think that it would do rather well as a fighting knife in a pinch, the reason it's not going to work as well as some other knives would is simply because it's not designed for that application. This is a work, field, hunting, outdoors knife. It's not a tactical, security, fighting, ect. blade. I don't think RAT ever marketed it as such, although they do have some other knives that would function beautifully in those roles. Different knives have different roles, and if you don't use the proper knife for the task, then it's not the knife's fault.

Please refrain from making statements like this again, all it does is aggravate people who actually use these blades. Or, and this is probably a better option, provide actual proof that it's a "Rambo Knife". Show us how badly it does compared to another blade, or provide some hard proof of why it's inferior to other makers. As someone who's collected knives for the better part of 15 years, I have yet to come across a knife that works as well as the RAT for what it's designed to do. And if you think another knife is better, tell us which one. You always need to provide evidence to back up your reviews, especially if you want people to take your evaluations seriously.
 
To do this ill must make videos like Nutnfancy but with some real point on functionality. I tried almost 1 and half hour and vbulletin send me a message that i must logged again. I will try tomorrow!
 
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RAT has like RAMBO knife completely wrong shape and size to be functional and useful. Far more useful knife in that category ( EDC, outdoors ) is Buck 110.
 
I hope you don't take offense when I say this, Cabala, but the more you speak the less it seems you know. I have yet to hear a single logical remark from you regarding high-end cutlery, and in fact many of your responses have seemed almost deliberately to the contrary. Furthermore your general inflammatory attitude seems destined to cause nothing but discord.

I would like to honestly ask you-- Why are you here?
 
I really don't understand this question. It is possible that i don't know enough about knives but i don't learn anyone. This is just MY OPINION! Why am here? To exchange opinion with others, i think.
 
What tasks do you use your knives for in the woods? The 110 is certainly no slouch in the woods, but fixed blades are usually considered a better choice because of their better strength. The RC knives are very well though out for such tasks as shelter building, cleaning game, making traps, batoning for firewood, and a variety of other bushcraft tasks. They are, in fact, the opposite of a "Rambo" knife, which was a novelty film blade created to be theatrically interesting. The RC knives are practical needs-based woods blades that I would recommend for you try out. The RC-4 is generally regarded as a great all-around wilderness knife.
 
In my country we use for different tasks different tool, for example, when we go to the picnic i always bring axe, saw, knife, lighter, barbecue, water... etc. Everything that i mentioned costs like one RAT knife and it isn't junk. If You think that knife will replace all of this gear i must ask You how old you are?
 
Since these knives obviously have some mythical value, i decide to make one real review with pictures, not to discard this knives then to explain my claims.
 
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