Ontario RAT & TAK knives review

HHHMMMM . Okay my turn to jump in.
I got one over here in da sand . GREAT BLADE. I also used iit in da bush. AAAhhh I guess I should say jungle. It Was good . Now ya gotta to understand . I did not use this knife in real LIFE. Because most people dont live a life like mine. But I have depended on this blade and will do so in the future.
Stay Safe
Chris:cool:
 
Well, that wasn't " reviews " at all, but ill' make for each of these knives ( RAT and TAK ). Till then please, read my newest " review " for Ka bar " Next gen fighter ". If your life depends of blade, ask someone who knows what to choose.
 
I still trust the guys at RAT with my life...they've been in the survival business a loooong time, so I'd figure that they know what they're talking about. ;)
 
Man comes home and sees his wife with lover in the bed. " What are you doing, for God sakes! " he said. " What are you talking about, nothing of course " she said to him, " do you believe your eyes or me!? "
 
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I understand the OP in general, despite the language issue and I don't have a problem with him stating his opinions especially as he has stated CLEARLY that he too, will learn. I have a RAT5 and I don't like the handle, I don't like the flat grind or the texture of the black coating of the blade but the sheath is very good. That's my opinion we all have them.
 
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Ryou said:
I understand the OP in general, despite the language issue and I don't have a problem with him stating his opinions especially as he has stated CLEARLY that he too, will learn. I have a RAT5 and I don't like the handle, I don't like the flat grind or the texture of the black coating of the blade but the sheath is very good. That's my opinion we all have them.
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I really can't say that isn't true if You like that type of sheath. Because of my poor english and some misunderstandings I wrote some things maybe too rough. That's why intend to write reasonable " review " about how I use these two knives. " Good - bad, right - wrong " don't explains nothing.
 
Ok, i understand that too. Here is my take on the sheath, it is well made of heavy duty nylon, feels solid, has space for wetstone/fire starting device, feels right on my leg and has a tie down. Im trying to post a pic now.
 
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razorsdescent said:
how the holy hell does arterial bleeding figure into this? I have a TAK and think its an excellent user knife and i have done things to it that would constitute abuse to most knives but the TAK just takes it. i cant wait until i can get one of the RAT knives made by RAT cutlery.
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He needs band aids for the bleeding..LOL:jerkit:
 
I must ad something about these two knives, just for the peace of mind. After month of hard use in kitchen environment micarta handle does not rot at all, actually doesn't have any smell on food. Unfortunately, blade loses sharpness after few cuts. I sliced some vegetables with butter knife ( absolutely dull ) and works fine but this doesn't mean that a knife has sharpness at all. Also, blade rusts. Wrong choice of steel for this type of knife. In the jungle would be much worse.
 
I must ad something about these two knives, just for the peace of mind. After month of hard use in kitchen environment micarta handle does not rot at all, actually doesn't have any smell on food
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surprise surprise
 
If you perform simple cleaning and oiling there won't be any rust. They aren't meant for kitchen usage specifically, and they work just fine in the jungle. For reference, RAT Cutlery just received a contract for producing the RC-3 for the military. It's good enough for them! ;)
 
I have two 1095 kitchen paring knives. Don't have a rust problem, you must be horrible at maintaining your tools.
 
what type of surface was under your vegetables?

are you cutting on a wood/plastic cutting board? or a marble countertop?

i find it really difficult to imagine a few cuts of vegetables will dull even the cheapest of blades.
 
cabala said:
Biggest problem isn't rust than very poor edge retention.
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A few cuts of vegetables sounds fishy to make anything dull. I have some AISI 420 paring knives that maintain an edge longer than that, and 1095 at even that hardness would outperform. I just don't buy it, sorry. If you are using a glass or stone cutting board, that would give a reason as to why you are having issues. Keep in mind that 1095 would probably have better edge retention as a cutlery steel than most kitchen knives, except for the higher end offerings, given what I know about the steel used in most German, American and Japanese kitchen knives.
 
cabala said:
You can't upgrade something that isn't properly made from beginning.
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you can. example would be the british army L85 series of assault rifles. the first version (L85, later known as L85A1) was generaly considered to be compleatly useless, it jammed, firing pins broke under normal use, ammo failed to feed ect ect ect.
the current issue L85A2, often created from re-worked A1's is a perfectly servicaeble rifle, with the design flaws more or less ironed out, and the only complaints being based on A) the weight, wich is at the heavier end of assault rifles, but not exceptional, and B) problems using it left handed, which is a feature it shares with manny other rifles (firing an AR-15/M16 left handed isn't optimal for example)
there are manny, manny other examples.

cabala said:
TAK has too short blade
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4.25 inches? I find 4 inches plenty for most jobs. what do you need the extra for?

cabala said:
And something else, steel is too hard for outdoor use and isn't stainless.
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one of the most popular production knives over in the wilderness and survival skills forum are the products of mora of sweden. one of thier more popular models is the "clipper" available in carbon and stainless. carbon is by far the most poupular steel, with stainless being reserved for high-salt/moisture environments.
carbon steel only becomes a problem in such enviroments if you don't look after it properly. if you treat it right it will be fine no matter what (generations of fishermen used carbon-steel knives and tools before stainess came about, and the locals in many jungle areas use carbon steel macheties without problem.)

cabala said:
RAT and TAK are actualy " Rambo " or " Tom Brown " knives. Intended to be in movies and nothing else.
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:confused:

cabala said:
In my country we use for different tasks different tool, for example, when we go to the picnic i always bring axe, saw, knife, lighter, barbecue, water... etc. Everything that i mentioned costs like one RAT knife and it isn't junk. If You think that knife will replace all of this gear i must ask You how old you are?
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no-one expects you to replace a barbeque, lighter and water with any knife. it wouldn't make sense.
and no-one is saying that any knife will perfectly replace an axe and saw, while retaining the abilties as a knife (i'm assuming the knife is for slicing ect)
BUT they are saying that you can use the larger rat knives as a combination of all three, although not as well, which may be desireable, as it is somewhat lighter and more handy. the smaller ones are intended to be a knife for lighter woods use, which can be easily carried and used and will not fail under rigorous use.

cabala said:
You hear only yourself so people like you don't need reviews. If you like it, use it. You have 18+, have you?
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the point is that you're review doesn't tally with anyone elses. and apart from the point about a dodgy sheath, I've yet to see anyone support you're conclusions. therefore either you don't understand how to use the knife, or you are deliberately attempting to dammage it's reputation for reasons unknown. that's logic :cool:

cabala said:
Man comes home and sees his wife with lover in the bed. " What are you doing, for God sakes! " he said. " What are you talking about, nothing of course " she said to him, " do you believe your eyes or me!? "
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man comes home, with a bunch of friends. walks into the living room. thinks he sees his wife with a lover on the couch. none of his mates see anything. who should he believe, his own eyes, or theirs?
 
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