Opinions on Scandi for SHTF?

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This whole SHTF situation is just delusion. Pure delusion.

It's akin to orienting your life around preparing to be struck by lightning. Ludicrous.

If I were you, I would spend all of the energy you're wasting debating blade grinds for the end of the world and refocus it on something productive. Shoot, I'd wager that if everyone preparing for the end of the world redirected their time and energy towards bettering it, just maybe it wouldn't need to end in the first place.

In a SHTF scenario, you'll just end up being like the hopeless little noob waddling out into level one of a video game, untrained and unprepared, moments away from a humbling respawn. No matter what "training" you've undergone. Only in this game you only have one life.

Sheesh.
 
For me, if "sh*t" was hitting a fan in my presence, a tarp would be best for survival.

A hose and paper towels would be a plus as well.

Cutting things would not be much of an issue.

best

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SeppukuSamurai said:
....It's akin to orienting your life around preparing to be struck by lightning. Ludicrous.
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Unless you have been struck by lightning... Lightning seems to like me. My house just got hit. I was hit years ago and have had very close encounters with lightning in the woods.

Added: Some preparations are a good thing and that includes a knife. I just think in terms of one to two weeks and not the rest of my life in terms of preparation.
 
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22-rimfire said:
Unless you have been struck by lightning... Lightning seems to like me. My house just got hit. I was hit years ago and have had very close encounters with lightning in the woods.
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But on the bright side you've been gifted the ability to contest the veracity of the old adage "you've a better chance of being struck by lightning..."

Right?

Seriously though, you've gotta one tough SOB. I've taken my fair share of shocks throughout the years. Electricity is no joke.
 
SeppukuSamurai said:
This whole SHTF situation is just delusion. Pure delusion.

It's akin to orienting your life around preparing to be struck by lightning. Ludicrous.

If I were you, I would spend all of the energy you're wasting debating blade grinds for the end of the world and refocus it on something productive. Shoot, I'd wager that if everyone preparing for the end of the world redirected their time and energy towards bettering it, just maybe it wouldn't need to end in the first place.

In a SHTF scenario, you'll just end up being like the hopeless little noob waddling out into level one of a video game, untrained and unprepared, moments away from a humbling respawn. No matter what "training" you've undergone. Only in this game you only have one life.

Sheesh.
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It's no different then people learning a martial art. My Father who was a Judo instructor told me. "People spend days, months, and even years preparing for a fight that might not ever happen."
 
cbrstar said:
It's no different then people learning a martial art. My Father who was a Judo instructor told me. "People spend days, months, and even years preparing for a fight that might not ever happen."
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It's very different, but I'm not going to argue.

Whatever floats your boat.
 
Just let this thread go. The OP made what seemed like a logical question, but then his follow-up responses lacked reason.

Started with asking the validity of a scandi-edge in a SHTF scenario.
Multiple responses on how easy a scandi-edge is to maintain in the field with a simple stone.
His follow-up response amounts to ounces matter and he does not plan to carry anything to sharpen his knife, instead plans to use river stones...
 
cbrstar said:
It's no different then people learning a martial art. My Father who was a Judo instructor told me. "People spend days, months, and even years preparing for a fight that might not ever happen."
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It's more akin to someone spending years preparing to fight 100 Jedi Knights and refusing to rehearse any scenario that isn't 100 Jedi Knights.

What if there are only 95 Jedi? Nope, not gonna happen. What if there's just one dirtbag with a stick? Nope, it's 100 Jedi Knights or nothing.

Then they get killed when a tree blows over on them or they fall through thin ice. With nary a Jedi in sight.
 
SeppukuSamurai said:
This whole SHTF situation is just delusion. Pure delusion.

It's akin to orienting your life around preparing to be struck by lightning. Ludicrous.

If I were you, I would spend all of the energy you're wasting debating blade grinds for the end of the world and refocus it on something productive. Shoot, I'd wager that if everyone preparing for the end of the world redirected their time and energy towards bettering it, just maybe it wouldn't need to end in the first place.

In a SHTF scenario, you'll just end up being like the hopeless little noob waddling out into level one of a video game, untrained and unprepared, moments away from a humbling respawn. No matter what "training" you've undergone. Only in this game you only have one life.

Sheesh.
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Someone needs to lighten up.
 
Halfneck said:
Just let this thread go. The OP made what seemed like a logical question, but then his follow-up responses lacked reason.

Started with asking the validity of a scandi-edge in a SHTF scenario.
Multiple responses on how easy a scandi-edge is to maintain in the field with a simple stone.
His follow-up response amounts to ounces matter and he does not plan to carry anything to sharpen his knife, instead plans to use river stones...
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Alls I said is that's what I use now, river stones. Since I don't see how to do that with a scandi I posted the question in a fun way. SHTF meaning: no commercial stuff available. Does all of this make sense now? Can you lighten up and get into it now?
 
For me a scandi is essentially a woodworking grind (but it's a knife and can do other things well, naturally). I don't think think the edge is well supported enough to be the "nukes are dropping and you can only grab one" knife. It's not going to be a scandi for very long after finding a field expedient sharpening method, at any rate.

I like high saber for the task more than scandi.
 
Fmont said:
It's not going to be a scandi for very long after finding a field expedient sharpening method, at any rate.
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This is my conclusion too. Thank you for chiming in, in the spirit of the question. I can't believe so many people got so uptight about what was supposed to be kind of a fun approach to a good question.
 
campandtravel said:
This is my conclusion too. Thank you for chiming in, in the spirit of the question. I can't believe so many people got so uptight about what was supposed to be kind of a fun approach to a good question.
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Its a question that has been beaten to death over a decade ago. There are two ways the question is asked "Just for kicks...." and "I think we are doomed, should I ..." So you got both answers.
Also a decade ago things were a little off the rails, but in general most people didn't think any of it was real, zombie movies are proof of that, no one actually thought it was possible. Now we know that a disaster could take us out, so disaster movies are not as fun, and we also know that we might be the cause of it, so there isn't as much fun in the Purge either. No one wants to be reminded of reality right now. So yeah, folks are a little uptight right now. You are also talking to people with real experience, some of whom have a good idea of how much experience they actually have. They are passed the Dunning-Kruger curve. Some are not, but from the vibe I'm getting from some of the crowd, you seem to think you know a lot, but don't show it. I could be wrong. If you are being honest, then it will work itself out, but ducks and all that. If you are not a returning troll, then you will be offered apologies eventually. If you are however, I can only say that your spelling and sentence structure have improved markedly.

Tl;Dr, buy a mora, get a river rock and find out. If you have the experience you claim, you should work it out easily. If you don't then don't act like you do (which is the vibe that many have gotten, intended or not).
 
Here's my calculus of the situation without knowing ALL the variables:

A flat Arkansas stone weighs next to nothing. Any energy it takes to keep a maintenance tool at hand will be far outspent wading around looking for a temporary sharpener on a river bank. I have a Mora that I have beaten on and sharpened for nearly 10 years. I use a 20 year old stone to sharpen it, mostly. I'm not a Scandi purist and touch it up with a loaded strop (its about 4" long and weighs maybe 5oz). I've only honed it maybe 5 times. It's still what I would call a Scandi grind if not zeroed in. It still takes the hair off my arm and carves fuzzy sticks and cuts apples and whittles knocks into hypothetical traps, etc.

Now if you really want to get deep into the weeds with a king size tinfoil hat... I live next to the river. Like, literally, a 10 minute walk and I could be wading in the muddy banks of the Ohio looking for a rock. There is also a Walmart or hardware store 10 minutes away. In a SHTF scenario, what's going to be looted first? Food, water, meds, guns, ammo, etc. My guess is that a simple $6 sharpening stone would be hanging on the peg gathering dust for years after some big dust up.

If we're talking about just bugging out into the wild to escape, a base camp makes sense. Long term survival shouldn't be based on nomadic wandering. Wastes too much energy, exposes you to too much, risks injury without a way to treat it. If a sharpening stone is too heavy to carry on your daily kit, keep it where you hang your hat.

A Scandi isnt that hard to maintain at a functional level. I still prefer a convex as my only blade, if forced to pick one. However, you can do a lot of really fine work with a Mora that is tough to do with my khukuri.
 
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