OT: Survivor Sidekicks (photos)

@redwood22 I learned then that even a "minor" bite from a dog, not just a Rott, can be a serious issue. Rotts just tend to be... Serious-er.

Nice dog, verysimple. And looks like he (she?) is treated well. Very good.

I'll have to try to find my way back into photobucket and post a couple pics of our current Rott... And maybe one or two of my old deceased best friend.

ok, went and found my way back into photobucket. Here is our current Rotty, playing in the aftermath of the latest "blizzard" to hit Maryland.

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Thanks guys. I tried to post a second one with him a little more static. But for some reason it was saying the photo didn't exist, even though I had just uploaded it. I must have kept leaving something out, and it's difficult to see it well enough to figure out on my phone.
 
Standard78 said:
Thanks bud! She's starting to mature into a pretty sweet dog finally. The constant biting and being a jerk was getting really old!
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rockspyder said:
That sounds like our Rott. He seems to be incapable of preventing himself from grabbing your hand with his mouth. Which isn't a big deal, unless you're a hundred-pound Rottweiler. He is just now starting to grow out of it, after constant corrections, at about 28 months old. He's a stubborn one. And as close to a sidekick as I have right now. I lost my true sidekick in 2013. Got this new one within a month, and though we are great friends, he's not really my sidekick.
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With the biting you just have to teach them that it isn't something that is in their best interest. They bite as a form of playing, but you can train them to be aware of how hard they are biting or to not bite at all. When they bite you make it a point to yell "ouch" and then take your hand away from them and hold it close to you while ignoring them. This mimics the natural playing behavior. If one dog is too rough, the other will yip and then protect that sore part while refusing to play anymore. Eventually they should learn that if they bite you, you won't want to play with them anymore. Which is pretty much the worst thing ever for dogs.
 
SURVIVE! Ellie said:
With the biting you just have to teach them that it isn't something that is in their best interest. They bite as a form of playing, but you can train them to be aware of how hard they are biting or to not bite at all. When they bite you make it a point to yell "ouch" and then take your hand away from them and hold it close to you while ignoring them. This mimics the natural playing behavior. If one dog is too rough, the other will yip and then protect that sore part while refusing to play anymore. Eventually they should learn that if they bite you, you won't want to play with them anymore. Which is pretty much the worst thing ever for dogs.
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And people said y'all are cat peoples.

Any suggestions on them.
 
SURVIVE! Ellie said:
With the biting you just have to teach them that it isn't something that is in their best interest. They bite as a form of playing, but you can train them to be aware of how hard they are biting or to not bite at all. When they bite you make it a point to yell "ouch" and then take your hand away from them and hold it close to you while ignoring them. This mimics the natural playing behavior. If one dog is too rough, the other will yip and then protect that sore part while refusing to play anymore. Eventually they should learn that if they bite you, you won't want to play with them anymore. Which is pretty much the worst thing ever for dogs.
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haha this is what we do with ours, it works even if you feel a little silly while doing it!
 
SURVIVE! Ellie said:
With the biting you just have to teach them that it isn't something that is in their best interest. They bite as a form of playing, but you can train them to be aware of how hard they are biting or to not bite at all. When they bite you make it a point to yell "ouch" and then take your hand away from them and hold it close to you while ignoring them. This mimics the natural playing behavior. If one dog is too rough, the other will yip and then protect that sore part while refusing to play anymore. Eventually they should learn that if they bite you, you won't want to play with them anymore. Which is pretty much the worst thing ever for dogs.
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That technique is exactly what I did and it's working really well! It startled her so much the first few times that she yelped and ran away. The vet told me to squeeze her muzzle when she bites but it seems like it pisses her off and makes her want to bite more.
 
Thanks Ellie. That is largely exactly what our trainer (note I said "our," not "his") said to do, although he didn't talk about the "ouch." But that is what I've used to get him to stop jumping up on me when I get home. I think I mentioned it above. When I get home, he doesn't get petted unless he goes into a sit. At this point, he still needs to be reminded, every day. But, every day, it is reminded less. He gets ignored unless he obeys and sits. If he breaks the sit, petting stops. But like I said, he is STUBBORN. This is our third, and our hardest-headed one yet. But truly, it is almost like working a puzzle. You learn the dog, then you teach the dog based on his (or her) personality. They all follow a certain behavioral base, but there seems to always be nuances of personality that you have to figure out, or at least get a hint, to really work well with them in training. It seems best to always train with other people, though, whenever possible, because a well trained trainer can catch "minor" faults in your actions that are major to the dog. And I think that is where our biggest problem with this one is. We have fallen out of practice, because our last one (my bud) was so completely easy to train. He paid attention, he trusted me implicitly, and it seemed he lived to please me and my wife. So we have gotten complacent.
 
rockspyder said:
Thanks Ellie. That is largely exactly what our trainer (note I said "our," not "his") said to do, although he didn't talk about the "ouch." But that is what I've used to get him to stop jumping up on me when I get home. I think I mentioned it above. When I get home, he doesn't get petted unless he goes into a sit. At this point, he still needs to be reminded, every day. But, every day, it is reminded less. He gets ignored unless he obeys and sits. If he breaks the sit, petting stops. But like I said, he is STUBBORN. This is our third, and our hardest-headed one yet. But truly, it is almost like working a puzzle. You learn the dog, then you teach the dog based on his (or her) personality. They all follow a certain behavioral base, but there seems to always be nuances of personality that you have to figure out, or at least get a hint, to really work well with them in training. It seems best to always train with other people, though, whenever possible, because a well trained trainer can catch "minor" faults in your actions that are major to the dog. And I think that is where our biggest problem with this one is. We have fallen out of practice, because our last one (my bud) was so completely easy to train. He paid attention, he trusted me implicitly, and it seemed he lived to please me and my wife. So we have gotten complacent.
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Same problem in our house. The 6 year old is well mannered and food motivated so he learned quickly. He didn't have much training for the past 4 years because he really didn't need it. The new one is young, independent, and stubborn. We don't have the time to work with her the way we should so there were many months of struggle. Now that she is getting closer to 2 years old we are all understanding each other a bit better.
 
Here's mine, got him at 10 weeks (or right around that time frame) and he's going on 8 years now and 102 pounds



 
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