Pale Horse Fighter

Ditto everything that has been said - exceptional work.

What do you think guys - could Kyle be our next "Peck" award recipient?
He certainly would be in good company.
Good luck, Kyle, or should I say congratulations, on the "JS" stamp.
 
Kyle, I think by now, you've earned the title; 'The Kid'.:cool:
You are shining bright.
 
You guys all telling Kyle how great he is helps not one bit, ESPECIALLY considering how young he is.

Constructive criticism would be helpful here....personally, I find the handle on this one very blocky, and the ricasso width too skinny for the blade.....metal skills are continuing to grow, even though this is more of a Turkish Twist, never heard of Persian Twist...whatever.

It it the responsibility of those who TRULY wish to see Mr. Royer grow and become a superb bladesmith to offer changes and a different perspective, rather than simply "attaboys"

Let the fans continue the accolades, this is my last approach in this manner on the subject, you either "get it" or don't.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
I don't really know enough, or have enough experience with knives of this level, in hand, to give good, constructive criticism, so I will stick with encouragement. It took me awhile to come to that conclusion, but here I am.:)

Steven's point, however, is very valid and it would be good to see the more experienced Collectors give more critical feedback, especially to those that will benefit from it, (like those young guys who ask for it!). Encouragement is important too, though:)
 
Kohai999 said:
You guys all telling Kyle how great he is helps not one bit, ESPECIALLY considering how young he is.

Constructive criticism would be helpful here....personally, I find the handle on this one very blocky, and the ricasso width too skinny for the blade.....metal skills are continuing to grow, even though this is more of a Turkish Twist, never heard of Persian Twist...whatever.

It it the responsibility of those who TRULY wish to see Mr. Royer grow and become a superb bladesmith to offer changes and a different perspective, rather than simply "attaboys"

Let the fans continue the accolades, this is my last approach in this manner on the subject, you either "get it" or don't.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Actually STeven, I have offered Kyle quite a bit of constructive criticism and he welcomes it. However I find it more productive to do so privately.

And I have found with my daughters that offering positive inspiration works quite well especially because of their age. Youngsters need motivation as they are easily distracted and discouraged. I expect the fact that Kyle gets so much positive motivation from his family and elsewhere, relates directly to his success at such a young age.

Just perhaps, you don't get it. ;) :)
 
Kevin Jones said:
.......I expect the fact that Kyle gets so much positive motivation from his family and elsewhere, relates directly to his success at such a young age.

Just perhaps, you don't get it. ;) :)
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Great, Kevin......IF he doesn't make it in the long run, seeing as the race has pretty much just started, they might be paying his bills.;)

Entirely possible I don't get it...you own his work, I don't...we all have our favorites.

But blowin' smoke and sunshine is bobo, AND he represents like a man on the Forums(see the sweet 18th birthday wishes from his mom; http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602093&highlight=kyle+royer) so let's dump the frikkin' kid gloves.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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Kyle's technical skills are certainly there--judging by the photos (not always a good thing to do) the execution looks fantastic. Kyle clearly has the touch it takes to build a truly "sano" knife.

I think the changes in proportion, design, style, etc. that some folks ( ;) ) are looking for are things that will come with time and experience.

Now my take, offered purely in the spirit of constructive criticism, with the understanding that I am still a total noob in the custom knife world.

Personally I like the handle shaping quite a lot. I see what STeven means about the ricasso/blade width proportions, but the only solution I see there is to reduce the blade width. I for one like a wide blade. :D

The things I would change are the apparent lack of any "corner" on the spine where the clip starts (again, the photos might be fooling my aging eyes), and the curve of the guard. The spine seems to transition to the clip without any drama. Perhaps this is a good thing, but I prefer a little more of a statement. I'd like to see a little more flow to the curvature of the guard--the curves seem to have a very small radius.
 
Kohai999 said:
Great, Kevin......IF he doesn't make it in the long run, seeing as the race has pretty much just started, they might be paying his bills.;)

Entirely possible I don't get it...you own his work, I don't...we all have our favorites.

But blowin' smoke and sunshine is bobo, AND he represents like a man on the Forums(see the sweet 18th birthday wishes from his mom; http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602093&highlight=kyle+royer) so let's dump the frikkin' kid gloves.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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STeven, so often we see things from different sides of the street, however we have both agreed it has it's advantages. :thumbup:

I don't currently own Kyle's work, however I will have him make me another while I can still afford it :eek: as I feel his work will demand the "big" money some day.

My having him make me a fairly difficult fighter offered the opportunity to handle and critique his work. And a fine piece it is. I actually took it to the Blade Show last year and passed it around and it received good reviews.

I decided to sell it as I will have him make me another more difficult piece. I was glad to see it do well on the secondary market considering him being a newer maker and his pieces aren't inexpensive.

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I think it's a great job. Possibly, the handle material and customer dictated the form. I'm just scatching my head wondering how being a man and paying the bills equates to constructive critique of the thread knife.

Still intesting addition to the thread, Craig
 
cdent said:
I think it's a great job. Possibly, the handle material and customer dictated the form. I'm just scatching my head wondering how being a man and paying the bills equates to constructive critique of the thread knife.
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He just turned 18. Kevin's stance, from what I read, is that it is better to publicly praise, and privately critique, ESPECIALLY with young un's.

I disagree, but do agree that modulating the harshness of critique is key to acceptance and growth behind it.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Hmm, let's see... love the Damascus, really love what you did with the fittings and construction though I don't really like to see complication just for complication's sake. The only thing I would add to the criticisms already made (which I agree with) is that I might like the handle a little longer. It could be the picture, though.

Still, an absolutely beautiful knife! Thanks for posting.
 
Kohai999 said:
He just turned 18. Kevin's stance, from what I read, is that it is better to publicly praise, and privately critique, ESPECIALLY with young un's.

I disagree, but do agree that modulating the harshness of critique is key to acceptance and growth behind it.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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LMAO..........modulating the harshness? STeven? Dude, you only have one speed. Throwing something funny in at the end doesn't count as "modulating" Entertaining, yes, but it doesn't do that much to soften the blow;)
With that said, Maybe there are some tweaks that could be made, but I agree with Michael that we very well may be looking at the 2009 Peck winner here. I know I'm sure as hell not going to be bringing anything to Blade with a frame handle if I make it this year.:eek:
Edit. DANG!!!! I just noticed that I am someone's avatar now. Thats weird:eek:
 
Kohai999 said:
He just turned 18. Kevin's stance, from what I read, is that it is better to publicly praise, and privately critique, ESPECIALLY with young un's.I disagree, but do agree that modulating the harshness of critique is key to acceptance and growth behind it.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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Yes STeven, I find this more productive with new and/or younger makers.
However I only praise any maker/knife when I feel it's warranted. IMO, we see quite a few "love fest" going on here on the BF.
 
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jdm61 said:
LMAO..........modulating the harshness? STeven? Dude, you only have one speed.
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I got three speeds for your information, Joe....fast, real fast, and hyper.

Slow is when hung over, or when concussed;)

Best REgards,

STeven Garsson
 
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