Part 2 of Emerson Q and A is up

[longbow]

I don't understand about being badged in? I do know of one entertainer, Martha Raye a female singer/comedian, and full bird Colonel that was popular in the 40's and 50's I think such that actually was "adopted" by the SF while in Viet Nam. Here is an excerpt: It was just before Thanksgiving ’67 and we were ferrying dead and wounded from a large GRF west of Pleiku, Vietnam. We had run out of body bags by noon, so the Hook (CH-47 CHINOOK) was pretty rough in the back.

All of a sudden, we heard a ‘take-charge’ woman’s voice in the rear. There was the singer and actress, Martha Raye, with a SF (Special Forces) beret and jungle fatigues, with subdued markings, helping the wounded into the Chinook, and carrying the dead aboard. ‘Maggie’ had been visiting her SF ‘heroes’ out ‘west’.

We took off, short of fuel, and headed to the USAF hospital pad at Pleiku. As we all started unloading our sad pax’s, a ‘Smart-Ass’ USAF Captain said to Martha…. Ms Ray, with all these dead and wounded to process, there would not be time for your show!

To all of our surprise, she pulled on her right collar and said… Captain, see this eagle? I am a full ‘Bird’ Colonel in the US Army Reserve, and on this is a ‘Caduceus’ which means I am a Nurse, with a surgical specialty…. now, take me to your wounded. He said, yes ma’am…. Follow me.

Several times at the Army Field Hospital in Pleiku, she would ‘cover’ a surgical shift, giving a nurse a well-deserved break.

Martha is the only woman buried in the SF (Special Forces) cemetery at Ft. Bragg. Hell ya!

Making knives and training? Don't think so. keepem sharp

 

[benchwarmer380]

So the big names get to play by their own rules. Though the folks that makes knives part time since they can't afford to survive from making knives alone, have to sacrifice a larger chunk out of their proverbial pocket?

If being a moderator is free, then does why does John from JK Knives have to pay for being a knifemaker, when he is a moderator of his subforum?

Ernest has knives made in his name, why no membership?

I just don't see how every single knifemaker that is also a moderator has to pay for a knifemaker membership, but Ernest Emerson doesn't have to have either.

I am not saying he has to be a moderator, nor spend any time here, but if he is going to choose to spend time here and have knives made in his name, he should pay the fee like all of the other knife makers or dealers.


As far as I see it, I am trying to drum up paid support for Bladeforums. They have someone circumventing they rules, and I would like to think we all respect this place enough to look out for its collective best interest.

They're playing by Spark's rules.

There is a distinction between Manufacturers, Dealers, and Knifemakers/Craftsman. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/announcement.php?f=699&a=98
I don't see any circumvention of those rules. JK is a craftsman that has his own Hosted Knifemaker subforum. Emerson is a manufacturer that has their own Hosted Manufacturer forum. Back in the day Emerson probably would have classified as a knifemaker, but I would assume that once you have a factory making your production knives and that overshadows your custom output, you have graduated to manufacturer.

A conversation about the distinctions and who classifies as what would definitely be an interesting Tech Support thread.

Of course they didn't bother to provide a moderater for their forum for a long, long time. And since Mr. Emerson is not a moderator, seems like he should probably play by the same rules as us non-iconic peasants, eh?

Okay, fine...

How about Ernest Emerson be made a moderator? I never could see why he wasn't.
Even if he rarely stepped in and let the other moderator moderate the most, seems like he should be one.

It always struck me as odd that he wasn't the mod there and that it took them so long to get one.

 

[shinyedges]

I think Emerson thinks he's a commando. He made comments a few years ago about his sniper training, yet he never served in any branch. Funny.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Reported, let's see if this one falls on deaf ears too.

Advertising his brand and knives without correct paid membership.

Why do others have to pay to pitch their wares here but this guy does not?

Emerson Knives is a manufacturer, not a dealer or knifemaker. Manufacturers can get a free forum for providing contact with their customers here.

 

[RamZar]

Honourary Navy SEAL. Wow, I never knew.

Not to be disrespectful, I don't doubt your skill at both knife making and fighting prowess, but a title or claim of such is still that, and in my book, extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. And the burden of proof falls upon one making the claim.

Can I ask for this? I'm now more interested in this than why the choice of left handed chisel grinds and folders for UDTs/SEALs.

I humbly beg to be corrected.

It's somewhat bothersome...

EE: "We never did any marketing hype about our association with the Navy SEALs." However, EE then proceeds to cite his association with SEALs including making knives for them, training them, etc. to the point that he was badged/sworn in as "an honorary Navy SEAL"!

EE: "If it weren't for the U.S. Navy SEALs, there would be no Emerson Knives".

EE: "Producing what I feel and what many people feel including a lot of the Navy SEALs feel are the best tactical edged weapons ever developed".

 

[shinyedges]

He actually said that?!? Wow. Dude really does think he is a commando. Sad and embarrassing he publicly does this lol

It's somewhat bothersome...

EE: "We never did any marketing hype about our association with the Navy SEALs." However, EE then proceeds to cite his association with SEALs including making knives for them, training them, etc. to the point that he was badged/sworn in as "an honorary Navy SEAL"!

EE: "If it weren't for the U.S. Navy SEALs, there would be no Emerson Knives".

EE: "Producing what I feel and what many people feel including a lot of the Navy SEALs feel are the best tactical edged weapons ever developed".

 

[SaltyVeteran]

 

[SpySmasher]

Honourary Navy SEAL. Wow, I never knew.

Not to be disrespectful, I don't doubt your skill at both knife making and fighting prowess, but a title or claim of such is still that, and in my book, extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof. And the burden of proof falls upon one making the claim.

Can I ask for this? I'm now more interested in this than why the choice of left handed chisel grinds and folders for UDTs/SEALs.

I humbly beg to be corrected.

That is pretty extraordinary.

 

[EDCanAdamas]

Playing devil's advocate here; does it really matter if Emerson thinks he a commando? As long as he's not going into Stolen Valor mode (claiming to be an honorary SEAL is pushing it) and claiming to have served, fought, or carried out a mission, is he breaking some moral rule? In my mind, Emerson's done less in that regard that another well known maker.

Granted, someone coming out of the blue and appointing themselves an "Icon" (he the haloed orthodox diety of thumb disks and 154CM!) deserves to be the butt of jokes and satire.

Full disclosure, I'm carrying an Emerson right now and liking it. It aids my covert household cutting chores quite well and I have confidence that it's edge will hold up against the most violent rogue apples and bananas.

 

[spykez]

Playing devil's advocate here; does it really matter if Emerson thinks he a commando? As long as he's not going into Stolen Valor mode (claiming to be an honorary SEAL is pushing it) and claiming to have served, fought, or carried out a mission, is he breaking some moral rule? In my mind, Emerson's done less in that regard that another well known maker.

Granted, someone coming out of the blue and appointing themselves an "Icon" (he the haloed orthodox diety of thumb disks and 154CM!) deserves to be the butt of jokes and satire.

Full disclosure, I'm carrying an Emerson right now and liking it. It aids my covert household cutting chores quite well and I have confidence that it's edge will hold up against the most violent rogue apples and bananas.

You're absolutely right, what he claims does not affect the quality of his product directly.

But somehow, this feels wrong, unless it really is true. I believe you call it deceit. I'm giving Mr. Emerson the benefit of the doubt and asking him for proof, that is all.

 

[oxman198]

Like it or not, he IS an icon in the knife community. I don't have any of his knives but I do like that damn commander. Not sure why he gets so much hate here.


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[stabman]

Like it or not, he IS an icon in the knife community. I don't have any of his knives but I do like that damn commander. Not sure why he gets so much hate here.

Being the object of hate is a rotating position, so it seems.

 

[spykez]

I love his knives, at least the Kemersons I have and am/was seriously contemplating a real cqc 7 or 8, but this last video has really created what I would best describe as cognitive dissonance.

 

[Sosa]

No gold membership, reported this thread, Emerson knives suck, blah blah blah coolaid ignored list butthurt.

 

[Mick_1KRR]

For some reason i always picture Mr Emerson and Mr Medford hanging out together playing commandos in the back yard like 2 little kids. The pair of them are just comedy for me, wouldn't use their knives if i got them for free.

 

[SpySmasher]

Playing devil's advocate here; does it really matter if Emerson thinks he a commando? As long as he's not going into Stolen Valor mode (claiming to be an honorary SEAL is pushing it) and claiming to have served, fought, or carried out a mission, is he breaking some moral rule? In my mind, Emerson's done less in that regard that another well known maker.

It's not an egregious moral breach, no. Even if it was untrue, it's not the same as stolen valor but it would be kind of distasteful.

And we don't even know it's untrue.

 

[evilgreg]

It's somewhat bothersome...

EE: "We never did any marketing hype about our association with the Navy SEALs." However, EE then proceeds to cite his association with SEALs including making knives for them, training them, etc. to the point that he was badged/sworn in as "an honorary Navy SEAL"!

EE: "If it weren't for the U.S. Navy SEALs, there would be no Emerson Knives".

EE: "Producing what I feel and what many people feel including a lot of the Navy SEALs feel are the best tactical edged weapons ever developed".

Someone more patient than I am should watch his videos and tally up how many SEALs mentions there are. I skipped through a lot of the first one and I still remember hearing all about the "underwater welders" and SEALs did I mention SEALs?

 

[EDCanAdamas]

Someone more patient than I am should watch his videos and tally up how many SEALs mentions there are. I skipped through a lot of the first one and I still remember hearing all about the "underwater welders" and SEALs did I mention SEALs?

Did he throw in "violent nomads" or "quiet professionals"? I think we can establish that Mr. Emerson has a thing for all things SEAL, which I think ranges from crush-like admiration to some kind of vicarious association he feels for having made some knives that were used by them (amoung a random grab-bag of other edged items they use). Most of this seems harmless, and I think we can all share a few jokes about it just like everyone joked about the kid who was really, really into Star Wars in school.

I checked google to see if "Honorary SEALs" are really a thing, and some of you might be interested to know that a 14 year old kid with cancer was adopted by some SEALs and given that title. The kid was not Ernst Emerson.

 

[Jhansenak47]

Someone more patient than I am should watch his videos and tally up how many SEALs mentions there are. I skipped through a lot of the first one and I still remember hearing all about the "underwater welders" and SEALs did I mention SEALs?

He doesn't mention SEALs until 9:20 on part 2 then he proceeds to talk about them and himself for the rest of the video.

 

[T.K.C.]

Not everyone visits the Emerson forum, so it is logical that it be posted here.

Thank you Mr. E., I AM very much enjoying your videos.