PayPal's fee is 2.9% + $.30

Not another PayPal discussion. Bottom line is if you don't like a seller's terms whatever they are its best to move on.
 
I fail to see how this discussion is any different then the plethora of others but have at it.

Thread open
 
I use this when they ask for fees:

https://salecalc.com/paypal

I send them exactly what gets them their "net" price. I have yet to have a single person balk when i send them the correct amount (read not 4% or whatever their demands may have been) If they don't like it they can refund me and cancel the sale.
 
rycen said:
Bottom line is if you don't like a seller's terms whatever they are its best to move on.
Click to expand...

I disagree with this. Discussion about these kinds of things can help to cultivate and/or preserve a certain set of community standards that we hold a seller to, at least to some extent. If there were no informal standards, and everyone started selling items with no pictures or descriptions, asking "PayPal F&F or add 6%," etc., then this place would go to hell quite quickly.

There are good and bad sales practices that most people can agree on, and I think talking about it helps bring out more of the former and less of the latter.
 
Different countries have different Paypal fees. So if you see non US sellers asking for different fees, it's because of that.
 
neffarious said:
I send them exactly what gets them their "net" price. I have yet to have a single person balk when i send them the correct amount (read not 4% or whatever their demands may have been) If they don't like it they can refund me and cancel the sale.
Click to expand...

I agree except I would run it by them before sending money. I have never had anyone with a problem with this as long as I guarantee they get their net asking price(usually not including shipping).
just to confirm-spyken is right that different countries are going to have different fees
and no matter what the country, the end percentage will vary with the price of the item and how large $.30 plays as a % of that price.

Bottom line to all this is - unless you are offering legit alternative payment methods(FF/gift is not one), then there is no reason not to ask a total--this is what I want price. I don't find the math particularly hard, nor am I a strict enforcer of PP agreement wording as long as they get their fair share but why not keep it simple. Some take great offence at Price +PP or Net to me, so you are loosing potential customers, which probably isn't the best idea for a sales ad.
 
Last edited:
Sellers that "DEMAND" 4% can suck it. :) Make your price a total price, don't nickel and dime people to "save money". Stupid.

That's my discussion on Paypal. Use it or don't. Quit crying.
 
I buy, trade and sell here on Bladeforums, and wherever I see "net" on a sales thread, it makes it somewhat less likely that I will purchase. But if it's a good enough deal or an item I want bad enough, it isn't an absolute deal killer. Sometimes it makes me a little suspicious that they are hoping I will use F&F, so that I will lose the buyer protection PayPal offers.
 
sloth357 said:
Sellers that "DEMAND" 4% can suck it. :) Make your price a total price, don't nickel and dime people to "save money". Stupid.

That's my discussion on Paypal. Use it or don't. Quit crying.
Click to expand...

^yep. my feelings as well on the topic.
 
This has bothered me since day one on the Exchange.
There have been sales threads asking for 4 - 6% for PP fees...+ shipping charges.
If it's something I'm drooling over, I'll make an offer.......but I'm not paying any seller's PP fees.
Probably being a thick headed WOP, but looking for an extra $4 on a $300 sale just seems trivial to me.
Joe
 
Last edited:
Thanks to Rycen for reopening the thread. I agree with his concern that most PP issues have been flogged to death. This particular question gets less attention - namely: why would a seller ask for PP fees that exceed what what PP charges? Given the fact that a seller can set any price he/she wants, what is the point of specifically asking buyers to add 4% or 5%, or any number over the actual fee? I'd love for a seller who does that to explain the rationale. If you want an additional buck or five for your knife, why not ask for an additional buck or five in your price? Why the subterfuge?
 
rycen said:
Not another PayPal discussion. Bottom line is if you don't like a seller's terms whatever they are its best to move on.
Click to expand...

This is really it. If you don't like the terms, or the price, or the sellers avatar move on. If enough people do that then the seller will need to change the aspects of the sale that are making the item not move. You have to question the intelligence of sellers, sure. Like when they say insurance is extra but only take goods. Or if they only want gift. Or if they charge that 5.78% paypal fee. But discussing it won't really change much. More of an opportunity to vent I guess. Think about all the thousands of times we have said use goods only. Think of all the threads on the subject. Think of the bright red disclaimers in the rules. Think of the fact that the seller and buyer agreed to use paypal the right way in the TOS. All of that has not changed that people still use gift all the time. Longtime and supposedly respected members use gift. Members that know better use gift. Getting blue in the face hasn't changed things that much.
 
sloth357 said:
Sellers that "DEMAND" 4% can suck it. :) Make your price a total price, don't nickel and dime people to "save money". Stupid.

That's my discussion on Paypal. Use it or don't. Quit crying.
Click to expand...

^ Let me know if you're ever in San Diego, S- I'd like to buy you a beer! :thumbup:


HappyDaddy said:
Thanks to Rycen for reopening the thread. I agree with his concern that most PP issues have been flogged to death. This particular question gets less attention - namely: why would a seller ask for PP fees that exceed what what PP charges? Given the fact that a seller can set any price he/she wants, what is the point of specifically asking buyers to add 4% or 5%, or any number over the actual fee? I'd love for a seller who does that to explain the rationale. If you want an additional buck or five for your knife, why not ask for an additional buck or five in your price? Why the subterfuge?
Click to expand...

^ These are people, that I prefer to never do business with, HD! And if I do, they're going to be paying me extra too!

Edit:
brancron said:
I disagree with this. Discussion about these kinds of things can help to cultivate and/or preserve a certain set of community standards that we hold a seller to, at least to some extent. If there were no informal standards, and everyone started selling items with no pictures or descriptions, asking "PayPal F&F or add 6%," etc., then this place would go to hell quite quickly.

There are good and bad sales practices that most people can agree on, and I think talking about it helps bring out more of the former and less of the latter.
Click to expand...

^ I strongly agree with Brancron on this! :thumbup:
 
Last edited:
craytab said:
This is really it. If you don't like the terms, or the price, or the sellers avatar move on. If enough people do that then the seller will need to change the aspects of the sale that are making the item not move. You have to question the intelligence of sellers, sure. Like when they say insurance is extra but only take goods. Or if they only want gift. Or if they charge that 5.78% paypal fee. But discussing it won't really change much. More of an opportunity to vent I guess. Think about all the thousands of times we have said use goods only. Think of all the threads on the subject. Think of the bright red disclaimers in the rules. Think of the fact that the seller and buyer agreed to use paypal the right way in the TOS. All of that has not changed that people still use gift all the time. Longtime and supposedly respected members use gift. Members that know better use gift. Getting blue in the face hasn't changed things that much.
Click to expand...

You may be right that it is just venting, and it is not going to change many that do it, but it may, just may reach a few that want to do right, but are a bit off track at the moment. At least that is my hope. I doubt we are going to teach any old dogs new tricks, but there are the new guys, still trying to learn proper procedure and the more ways they hear it the better.
 
rje58 said:
...Sometimes it makes me a little suspicious that they are hoping I will use F&F, so that I will lose the buyer protection PayPal offers.
Click to expand...

You better believe your suspicions are right. Removal of buyer protection is the primary reason sellers want F&F.
 
Peter Hartwig said:
You may be right that it is just venting, and it is not going to change many that do it, but it may, just may reach a few that want to do right, but are a bit off track at the moment. At least that is my hope. I doubt we are going to teach any old dogs new tricks, but there are the new guys, still trying to learn proper procedure and the more ways they hear it the better.
Click to expand...

That very well could be true and I hope you are right.
 
And don't forget one of the stipulations of using PayPal is the seller not charge additional fees....
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top