Pokerface deal gone bad.

[S.T.R.]

Dang Pokerface, when Breezie gave you an open-ended "what price is it gonna take to get that knife," you obvs should have gouged him out of the gate with a price of "fie' hunnert dollar," punctuated by the ring of a spittoon as you expertly splatter it a glob of tobaccy juice. That's when the real dealin' begins, and you let him work you down to $229 net to you. Everyone wins!

+1 for best post of the thread.
My take is that both parties were wrong to some extent. There have been several threads about the Sellers Right to sell to whoever he chooses. The seller said he got a bad vibe from the beginning from the OP. I am not agreeing with his assessment, but that is his opinion. He chose not to sell and stated he wasn't happy with the price.

There is a quote I've heard several times before and it's an unofficial one that says to the effect, "No deal is done until both parties are happy." No deal was done hence no feedback should have been left. I'm glad the OP is stepping up and making it right.

The seller should have withdrawn the knife for sale after the first refusal and not made a counter offer.
Just My .02 cents, take it for what it's worth.

 

[Thomas Linton]

Really? Show where anyone is confirming anything?

Not sure what "confirming" means.

If legal rules that apply elsewhere matter, the "I'd have to get $175" sounds like an offer to sell for $175.00 to me, an offer that the OP could accept by words or by tendering $175.00, forming a contract. The buyer's "I'll send $175" is that acceptance.

None of which relates to feedback issue under the special rules here.

If I accept an offer to but a $229 item at $175, and the seller repudiates the contract, I have been financially injured to the tune of $54.00, which does not change the rules here.

 

[HappyDaddy]

Yet another example of the uselessness of iTrader here. If negative feedback isn't allowed for a transaction like this, the feedback system is flawed. Why not use an eBay type system? I've never seen a good answer to that.

 

[ooitzoo]

I concede you are right in that he never said confirm.

However, it was asked what price was needed to complete the deal and a price was offered.

There's more than one way to skin a cat.

Respectfully no. At best, he can be said to be on the fence. OP basically just sent him funds in a rush to secure the knife then got mad when told there wasn't any deal to secure.

Again, I think everyone agreed the seller didn't follow the rules; its just that ITrader feedback is not warranted and OP has acted very rashly in this whole episode.

Yet another example of the uselessness of iTrader here. If negative feedback isn't allowed for a transaction like this, the feedback system is flawed. Why not use an eBay type system? I've never seen a good answer to that.

You mean a system overseen by underpaid interns who make changes at a whim in order to support a constitutionally corrupt system that is now largely nothing but the same old online businesses and off-shore scammers? Sure, lets do that!

Or, better yet, let's not.

 

[Peter Hartwig]

He really didn't need to confirm it, since the seller offered the price. Does he offer prices that he won't take. Normally I would say no, but in the sellers case it seems to be true.
Since the seller offered a price to the buyer all that should be needed is for the buyer to agree to it(in a timely manner of course-not a year from now). He already had the PP address, so he didn't need to wait for that.

 

[Peter Hartwig]

+1 for best post of the thread.


There is a quote I've heard several times before and it's an unofficial one that says to the effect, "No deal is done until both parties are happy." No deal was done hence no feedback should have been left. I'm glad the OP is stepping up and making it right.

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and there lies the problem with I trader. If both parties need to be happy, you are not going to get much negative feedback. It does at least let you know if anyone has been satisfied with dealing with the person and the number that have been satisfied. Combined with GBU you can get an idea of the person, but as a stand alone I trader isn't the greatest tool, due to it's positive bias.

 

[ooitzoo]

He really didn't need to confirm it, since the seller offered the price. Does he offer prices that he won't take. Normally I would say no, but in the sellers case it seems to be true.
Since the seller offered a price to the buyer all that should be needed is for the buyer to agree to it(in a timely manner of course-not a year from now). He already had the PP address, so he didn't need to wait for that.

Again, read this again:

Well that's to bad. Let me know if you change your mind.
Armando,

I have to be honest, I'm still stinging over this one a little. I understand you realized you were asking less for this than what you paid and I respect that. With that said, what would you consider a fair price for this to complete the deal?

Brian


I'd have to get $175 net (175 Friends/180 Goods). After Priority Shipping…I would pocket $160 by my calculations…and even then, I'm not that thrilled considering that I paid $229 for it.

-Armando
I'll send $175 F&F. Thank you for making this right Armando.

Brian

What happened to "I'll do that if you agree"???? I'm sending your money right back. You should have waited for me to agree.
Wow, you have this posted for two days at $150 and when we agree to a deal you renig on it and when I give you a chance to make it right you pull this bullshit?? Nevermind. We'll just see what the members think.

He's clearly reluctant...

 

[Esav Benyamin]

iTrader is a stand-alone add-on to vBulletin. Not an integral part of Bladeforums, Enough people like it that Spark keeps it going. Bladeforums own original feedback goes in GBU -- the Good, the Bad, the Ugly. GBU does not resolve to neat charts with statistical analysis. It does, however, fill in the details and allow for an open discussion.

Take your pick, use either, neither, or both.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

I think we've had enough mind-reading of the buyer's and seller's intentions.