Poor Sheath maker

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That tan coating does just the opposite to leather, it can literally sand the inside of the sheath smooth, and its very hard on stitching that it contacts. I have to use special methods of constructing a sheath for Desert Tan so it wont eat its way out of or create fuzzy threads. The MOAB is one big belt sander. ;)

I've literally filed my fingernails on my Desert Badger. :p

EDIT: to add, Chuck! You scared the crap out of me!!!!! :eek:
 
As Has been said many times here, Kydex scuffs knives.

Busse Tan tends to gain color from any kydex steath, so the tan/light brown sheaths are better, try cleaning the kydex off of the tan finish, simple green and a tooth brush.

That smoothing might just be a kydex rub.

My Tan AK did some terrible things to the kydex sheath I had ordered for it,(Prolly the length of stroke) then the Kydex did terrible things right back, so it sort of seemed fair to me after I got over the Horror of it all.
 
Guyon said:
Dwayne, you mean you're not just a poor sheath maker? :p
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So it might be possible that the top residual part of the coating came off, because it was a safe queen, got into the sheath, and acted as an tough abrassive between the coating and the kydex.
That's sounds perfecly understandable to me. Even if the bonded particles form a very hard and durable coating, looser particles will stay on the coating untill rubbed off.
 
Kydex is brutal on blades to be sure....

Its a tricky choice, but I think I'm gonna choose leather for my tan Batac. based on these comments. Either that or the Spec-Ops combat master.

That being said - if the sheath is made to grip the handle of the knife and not molded too tightly around the blade, it shouldn't scuff the finish much at all (unless you get beach sand in there or something).

So you can have the best of both worlds, if the necessary steps are taken up front.
 
The point that seem to be missed by some is that the wear,which is on both sides and Does show on the tip, was done at Eric's shop. Not done by the owner using it. If the sheath wears the finish after I use it it's one thing,but it coming to me fresh from the shop, that's another thing. I sent in a pristine blade and rightfully, I believe, expect to get it back in the same condition.

If I take a car in for service I don't expect it to be damaged when I get it back.

I, too hope that we can settle this to both our satisfactions.

I'll keep everyone posted as things go.
 
Hey Guys..

Chuck....

How do you think it gets from a sheet of plastic to a "custom fit" molded sheath ?
Do you think that I wave a magic wand and POOF, the frigging knife fits perfectly in the sheath ?

To get a knife to fit a sheath such as this, no rattles, nice clean, quick draw, Especially with a knife that is contoured this way the knife has to be drawn and re-sheathed many times. This knife in fact was probablt drawn and re-sheathed dozens of times to get the fit that it has...

It's "Custom Fit", thats what custom fit means.
During the fitting process theres going to be some rubbing,, Especially with a knife like this. You simply cannot it expect it not to.

You gave me Detailed carry instructions, edge forward, handle up to be carried on the right side.

Keep in mind that I make alot of sheaths for people who carry knives for either professional reasons, ie. military, police, security contractors and martial artists.
When I make sheaths for people like this they expect them to do a certain job. To do that job properly, I need to do certain things to that sheath to make it Function.
Your sheath in fact functioned perfectly, rubbing and buffing aside.

My first consideration is that the sheath function for the client.

I built a sheathing system for a Knife Fighter, plain and simple, because thats who I thought I was building it for..

As for your car analogy.

To fix it I'm probably going to have to Drive it.. Sorry for the miles on the odometer...

ttyle

Eric E. Noeldechen
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Normark said:
As for your car analogy.

To fix it I'm probably going to have to Drive it.. Sorry for the miles on the odometer...

ttyle

Eric E. Noeldechen
On/Scene Tactical
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I was gonna post a long winded response about kydex rubbing and having to fit the knife and sheath

BUT that quote pretty much sums it up!!

Eric you rock bro!
 
Leatherface said:
I was gonna post a long winded response about kydex rubbing and having to fit the knife and sheath
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I imagine this aspect of kydex sheath making takes even more time, fitting an finishing with a knife shaped like the war boar than it normally would. The blade curved like that, the dagger style grind... I think its only natural to assume that theres gonna be some scuffing putting this knife in a kydex sheath. And especially if the tan coating smoothes out more rapidly than others, like many here have said.



Eric-

Could you add something about the tan coating and making sheaths for users to the faqs or ordering pages on your website? While I don't entirely agree with him, I can understand G19G26's upset and think that a warning about possible scuffing of tan blades would have gone a long way towards avoiding this problem and these threads.

Nevermind. :) Just saw the warning that you have listed on your website. Its pretty much straight to the point...
 
I took one look at that knife and see no way you could have possibly avoided rubbing the finish. :confused:
 
Roughedges..

Yaa you are probably right..

I thought I had it covered with the general disclaimer.
Obviously not.

Thanks

and Thanks Leatherface...
Glad you liked the G-clips



Eric
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Eric,

Do you take close up pictures of every knife and sheath that leave your shop? Thousands, as you say? You took those pics before there was a complaint. Perhaps you were anticipating one and wanted your own pics taken under your conditions for your defense?

Just an observation.
 
I know Eric’s rep and Busse recommends him.

It seems there was lots of communication.
The amount of wear on your War Boar is approximately the same as I got on my Ruck the first six or seven times I put it in it's new sheath. The finish is like sandpaper.

I have a question: Why is there also a post on GBU?
 
I was just thinking much along the same lines, thefifth. Two threads and one of them titled "poor sheathmaker". Personally, I think that anyone who can make a secure and safe sheath, from any material, for a knife like the war boar must be dang good at what he does.

This thread, aside from being redundant and regardless of any validity of the OP's complaint, is titled in such a way that the sheath maker in question simply doesn't deserve.
 
Hey Guys....

BH...

Buffalohump said:
unless you get beach sand in there or something
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That sand finish is akin to spraying a blade with contact adhesive and Rolling it in beach sand....

EVERY possible precaution was taken with this knife

If you drive your car through Mud,, it's gonna get Muddy.

ttyle

Eric
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G19G26 said:
What would you do if you sent a mint War Boar Busse blade to a sheath maker and got back one that had the finish worn smooth on both sides of the blade and at the tip?

I'm not talking a little,but a LOT of smoothing. More smoothing than you see on another Busse that you've carried daily for almost 2 years.
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What would I do? In all honesty, I'd do this:

- If the knife was a user, I wouldn't even bother checking how the coating or finish is doing. I'd just slap it back in the sheath after checking the cutting edge, and start using it. So, in other words, I would do nothing. On a user knife, worn blade finish or coating means absolutely diddly squat, nada, to me.

- If the knife was a safe queen, a collector's item, I'd slap myself really hard for ever sending it for sheathing. Why would a safe queen need a sheath anyway? If it was for display purposes, I should have chosen a leather sheath. To choose a kydex sheath for a safe queen is like choosing a pair of heavy rubber boots for running track - just plain wrong. I'd be pissed off - at myself. Kydex scratches the hell out of blade finishes and coatings, that's a fact of life. If you're going to get a custom fit kydex sheath, the knife is going to be inserted in the sheath many times during the process of making the sheath. That translates to scratching. So, what would I do? Learn from the experience.

Yeah, it's never fun to have your knife scratched up if you wanted to keep it mind. It's also never smart to send a mint knife for sheathing if you want to keep it mint.
 
Hey Guys....

Matteo

Matteo Escobar said:
Eric,

Do you take close up pictures of every knife and sheath that leave your shop? Thousands, as you say? You took those pics before there was a complaint. Perhaps you were anticipating one and wanted your own pics taken under your conditions for your defense? Just an observation.
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The closeup of the blade was cropped from a photo that was taken which was on High Res at 3000 X 2000 7.1 mpl.

No I don't take photos of Every knife that leaves my shop. However I do take pictures of the sheaths that are Especially nice and Especially when I'm working with a new color of Concealex that I've never used.

Now the quantity of my work is in question,, Please Matteo..
I've handled more knives and more Busses then you'll see in a lifetime...

As far as taking the picture before hand in my Defense ??

LOL

Firstly I don't think that far in advance, and Secondly now that you mention it,, yaa it does show what *little* wear is on the knife...

What Exactly are you getting at?
Don't pussy foot around,, say what you want to say...

Don't think I've forgotten about the last attack by you on me

"Washed Up "

How many years ago was that Matteo...

I'm still here aren't I.
My Reputation Speaks for itself... Period!


ttyle

Eric
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Hey Guys...

Matteo...

You don't have two clues to rub together when it comes to sheathing a knife,, so why don't you shut your mouth before you make a Fool of yourself...

As far as Jerry goes...

I will explain it to him as well if needed...
The powder coat is Not defective, the loose particals rub off easily when you put them in a sheath...

Sorry you can't Grasp the concept Matt...

ttyle

Eric
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