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Hey Guys...

Progunner..
Thanks,, it's where it belongs..

Matt

Some people don't have enough sense to wipe their boots before they walk in the house...

Your "pointed observations" were insinuations and innudendos.

You brought my Character into Question, you initiated the Thread Drift.
In fact the thread was going along just fine until you injected your fantastic Observational Insight into the conversation.

You are in fact the **** disturber that is Diverting Attention the attention. I never said a word to you until you started running off at the mouth.

The reason I jumped down your throat is because I remember the insults and your feable attempt with character being brought into question from 3-4 years ago when you said I was a "Washed up Sheathmaker".

I'm still hear aren't I Matt ?


>If you care so much about your customers, why wasn't this handled >privately....before Chuck felt the need to go public?

It was being handled in private. Chuck brought it into the public. I'm simply stating my point and running damage control. Seems now not only I have to do that, but shovel the Stables as well.

>Eric, if you'll take note I asked a question immediately after this thread was >posted, and before I knew it was you. Did the maker only produce one >sheath with this knife, or were several made?

Ya and your next post aftet you found out it was me were Insinuations.

Did you expect me to crumble and walk away from you, not to respond to an insinuation that I have something up my sleeve...

You underestimate me Matt, and your a Troll....

As for the question of multiple sheaths being made from that particular knife.

No,, that was the Only one made from that knife.

Does that satisfy the Troll now ?

Or do you need more more simplified expalations ?

ttyle

Eric
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Jerry....

And in Fact it will be corrected...

However Chuck needs to Realize,, that once the knife is refinished,, it can NEVER be put into a sheath again..

Period,, or we are right back where we started from..

I will be in touch Jerry...

Thanks

Eric
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This thread is staying on Busse Combat where it started. I have had it moved back here from the GBU. This is a situation between a Busse Combat customer and a Busse Combat recommended sheath maker.

This will be resolved to the customer's satisfaction PERIOD!. . . Even if I have to do it myself!


Jerry



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Guys..

Thanks Jerry...

Micky..

No,, a template can't be made for a job like this..It's not how it works...

With the Sand PC,, there is Absolutely NO way of preventing this from happening.
If I put 100 layers of tape on the blade, if that sand PC even touches plastic on the way out it will cause a buff mark....

ttyle

Eric
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Just want to add my bit about the sand coating, not that I think it's really needed but...

It definately wears smooth very easily if in contact with anything hard. I made myself a sheath, lined with nylon-type woven cloth. It took the sand off the flats in no time! Before I had even finished making it. I was actually quite pleased. I like the colour but not the sandpaper texture.

Eric, I've never bought a sheath from you (I spend all my cash on steel and have to make my own sheaths as a rule), but I would not hesitiate to buy from you if I was in the market. I have seen and read enough about your work to know it would not disappoint me!

Rick.
 
Jerry Busse said:
This thread is staying on Busse Combat where it started. I have had it moved back here from the GBU. This is a situation between a Busse Combat customer and a Busse Combat recommended sheath maker.

This will be resolved to the customer's satisfaction PERIOD!. . . Even if I have to do it myself!


Jerry



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Thanks, Vassili.
 
I really like the Tan Busse coating.

I only have it on a few blades, but it is prolly the best Busse coating for a hard use knife.

This coating both gets and gives marks pretty easily kind of reminds me of Shark skin, tough and abrasive.

While it have been some years since I ordered any of Normark's Sheaths he is a good Sheath Maker, there seems to have been a misunderstanding as to the nature of the use of the knife.

I have found that plasitic sheaths both Smooth and mark any of the Busse coatings so I tend to try to get sheaths that are pretty close in color to the coating used.

Black marks on a tan knife looks odd.

I have a fair number of $1,000.00+ value Busse knives in Kydex sheaths both Factory and after market.

Kydex leaves it's mark on most of them.

When it is important to have a knife unmarked, it stays out of it's kydex sheath.

Any Custom kydex sheath, made to fit a particular knife, using that particular knife to made the sheath has in the past for me ment that the knife will marked in the process of moulding, drawing, resheathing and fitting, regardless of knife finish.

Kydex made using a Model then put on a different knife, wears the finish with my use but I get to watch the wear, not just get before and after pictures.

Yes, the first time can be a shock, particularly if the Blade coating and the Sheath are different colors.

If this is not a knife that was not to get used then sounds like the knife needs to be refinished, the Sheath returned to Normark and a common aggreement that there was a mis-understanding.

Otherwise get used to the idea that the Tan finish some times takes damage from and does damage to kydex.

But also, like I said before, look closely at the finish and make sure that the hard smoothing is not just plastic, rubbed into and onto the blade coating, it might wash off with Simple green and a tooth brush, I have had this happen to several of my Busse knives, the tan coating chews up the plastic.

How the Tan Coating deals with plastic was a shock to me the first couple of Busse knives I got with this coating, but over time I have decided that this is the best Busse coating for a hard use knife.
 
lol... ooooooh goodness. your both wrong! ;)

normark didn't start it, but generally its best for everyone to keep things civil regardless of who starts it, or how hard they try to keep it going. point out the logical flaws in an argument, and keep it clinically cold through and through.

the only way around it that I could see for normark would be to have the blade refinished through busse, refund the cost of the sheath (I would personally ask for the sheath back to recoup some losses), and give that individual the disclaimer that you could not build him a sheath for any knife that he wished the coating to stay pristine on. and hold to that.

thats about it... the customer has their knife back with a new pristine mint finish, and they aren't out any money, only time which is unavoidable. normark would be out the money required to refinish it as well as shipping charges, but you will have gotten the experience of what to do in the future regarding public disclaimers about kydex and coating.
 
Hey Guys..

LVC....

Yaa in a perfect world, that would be the best thing..However this is the Real world.

I'm going to talk with Chuck see if he wants the blade refinished, then I will set it up with Jerry and have business taken care of.

Hopefully that will Square us up...

ttyle

Eric
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Normark said:
Hey Guys..

LVC....

Yaa in a perfect world, that would be the best thing..However this is the Real world.

I'm going to talk with Chuck see if he wants the blade refinished, then I will set it up with Jerry and have business taken care of.

Hopefully that will Square us up...

ttyle

Eric
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eric.... you have a pm as a direct result of this post.... i want a few sheaths
 
If you get it refinished, please send a note to your customer NEVER to use the sheath or his knives wont be mint anymore.
 
Normark said:
Hey Guys..

I'm going to talk with Chuck see if he wants the blade refinished, then I will set it up with Jerry and have business taken care of.

Hopefully that will Square us up...

ttyle

Eric
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Should I ever need Kydex in the future....you will be the one to get my business. I really don't see this situation as being your fault...but sometimes life teaches us lessons we don't soon forget. This may be one of them. In turn...you have apparently earned the respect of a few here.....and future customers.
 
I was having a discussion about sheaths and scuffing with Sandy Morrissey and he said something I consider to be filled with wisdom. Any sheath can mark up a blade. Leather kydex whatever. If you want to keep a blade mint, keep it out of sheaths. A leather sheath can be made so that it is pretty easy on a blade but some marking is inevitable.
 
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