Possible scam

[Tippet]

I never doubted you were legit, and my offer stands; if you can't buy the knife outright I'll be happy to hold a deposit until you return it after you write the review. And I sincerely do wish you luck getting some free knives to review and even keep after.

 

[Mr.dave.89]

Allen´s knife arrived about a month ago. My son has been home on vacation, for more then a month so far. My two nephews, one ten and one almost five, same age as my son. Are both staying with with us, over the summer. I don´t know how old your two daughters are, BUT at four almost five years old, they could run you raged.

So I have two and a ten year old. I am the writer, not the editor. Out off 15 reviews, five have been published, so far.

At, Ka-Bar you should contact Tara Trautman. She can explain why, the samples were sent to Ohio and not Spain. My mother delay in visting, here only grandchild, she has never meet, tthus delaying Ka-Bar´s samples. Is easy ´´MONEY.´´ As a guy how was out of work for a bit, that should be easy to understand.

Oh, to scam a unknown maker is one thing, to scam a well known and respected maker like Alan Elishewitz, is a COMPLETE other. His reputation is big and well earned. So, not a good guy to scam.

 

[Mr.dave.89]

Thank you for your support Tippet. I mean that. We, by that I mean my family and the country are is bad shape economically. So if I can receive a free sample, or writers comp, I´ll take it. The story still gets done. The editor has keep about half of the knives, I´ve reviewed so far.

 

[bigern26]

Allen´s knife arrived about a month ago.

Allen said he sent it in January, So what it takes 5 month for shipping to spain?:yawn:

 

[Mr.dave.89]

5 months no, about two - three weeks. I e-mailed, this to you as well.


Re: order‏
From: Allen Elishewitz (allen@elishewitzknives.com)
Sent: Sat 6/12/10 2:02 PM
To: David Bolton (davidlbolton@hotmail.com)

It was shipped on May 27th. The tracking number is EG19 7032 430U S. You can track it at usps.com.

It tells me that they tried to deliver the package on June 4th and since it seems to be sitting at the post office. You may have to go there and check.
Best regards,
Allen


I am glad you are checking out my referrences, Mr. Swanson. Are you sure your not unemployed again, to have so much free time?

 

[bigern26]

5 months no, about two - three weeks. I e-mailed, this to you as well.


Re: order‏
From: Allen Elishewitz (allen@elishewitzknives.com)
Sent: Sat 6/12/10 2:02 PM
To: David Bolton (davidlbolton@hotmail.com)

It was shipped on May 27th. The tracking number is EG19 7032 430U S. You can track it at usps.com.

It tells me that they tried to deliver the package on June 4th and since it seems to be sitting at the post office. You may have to go there and check.
Best regards,
Allen


I am glad you are checking out my references, Mr. Swanson. Are you sure your not unemployed again, to have so much free time?

Yes I am sure I am not unemployed, It does not take to long to send a few emails.
I just want to know for sure if you are for real or not, The best way is by asking the people you have listed as references.

I also need to say sorry for mixing up the dates of Allens and one others. But like Allen did say in his email, Warn other makers not to deal with David Bolton.
To me that seems like a warning, A red flag, or what ever you want to call it.
I am waiting to hear back from all the other references I contacted.
Ka-Bar email me back and said they will not further give out any information.

 

[Jack O'Neill]

Thank you for your support Tippet. I mean that. We, by that I mean my family and the country are is bad shape economically. So if I can receive a free sample, or writers comp, I´ll take it. The story still gets done. The editor has keep about half of the knives, I´ve reviewed so far.

Well at least know this , you will not get your knife back , the editor keeps them .

 

[Mr.dave.89]

Please check as I have nothing to hide.

 

[bigern26]

Please check as I have nothing to hide.

Do you have a traceable email for the magazine or the editor?

I found who owns the website but they are a web design company, I emailed them to see if I can get contact information for the magazine.

 

[cj65]

Thank you for your support Tippet. I mean that. We, by that I mean my family and the country are is bad shape economically. So if I can receive a free sample, or writers comp, I´ll take it. The story still gets done. The editor has keep about half of the knives, I´ve reviewed so far.

Are you writing in Spanish, and then it is converted to English? I find it hard to believe you write for a periodical with such poor grammar. It would be difficult to write poorly if you wrote professionally. Your sir name is definitely English, not latin, so I assume you are writing in English. Your poor grammar may be hurting your credibility here.

 

[tyr_shadowblade]

I am David Bolton, I am NOT a dink. THANK YOU. The magazine is Spanish, as in Spain, Western Europe. I am open to ALL questions. I normally reply, very late in the am, so my grammer may be less then steller.

Anyone who wish to be reviewed, in a fair and honest manner please contact me.

Curt and Mark are great guys, we have a former Green Beret Friend in common.

You know someone who used to be a hat?

 

[12345678910]

Are you writing in Spanish, and then it is converted to English? I find it hard to believe you write for a periodical with such poor grammar. It would be difficult to write poorly if you wrote professionally. Your sir name is definitely English, not latin, so I assume you are writing in English. Your poor grammar may be hurting your credibility here.

The poster claims to be a native born American with a university education, minoring in Journalism....

 

[12345678910]

Please check as I have nothing to hide.

This is also interesting, as Ernie is doing the checking, but you do your best to undermine and insult him by constantly bringing up his "unemployment" as a way to attack his creditability.

How about any of those things in the list I asked for ?

 

[go mike]

This is also interesting, as Ernie is doing the checking, but you do your best to undermine and insult him by constantly bring up his "unemployment" as a way to attack his creditability.

I've been following this thread, and that's really bothering me. We're in hard times, and a lot of people are unemployed. Ernie was laid off for a while, but he has a job now. Just because he has access to the internet, and he probably doesn't like you (David), does not give you any right to insult others publicly. Ernie is just trying to help out other makers and prevent them from losing $200+.

You targeted him as one of the first on the forums, he declined unless you would set a deposit until the knife would be either bought or returned, you began to insult him then. Other makers turned you down as well, like Bruce Bump, and you treat them like they're horrible people. That's just unprofessional in every sense. I don't know them personally, but they've helped me out quite a bit with nothing in return. A bad word of someone travels much quicker, and much stronger than any good word.

 

[Bastid]

I think this says it all.

Oh, to scam a unknown maker is one thing, to scam a well known and respected maker like Alan Elishewitz, is a COMPLETE other. His reputation is big and well earned. So, not a good guy to scam.

Not to dis Alan, I have much respect for him and have known him for a while. But scamming a lesser known maker no matter what the status is no different from scamming a known maker. In the knife world I know and the Alan I know there is no difference at all.

Exactly how do you determine who is a good guy to scam?

What a friggin' joke.

 

[NeoClassic]

Mr.David.89,

Based on how you've handled yourself in the threads I've read online, I can't think of any editor I've ever worked with, who would stand for one of his or her writers talking back to people the way you are doing. As an editor, I certainly didn't tolerate it from the freelancers or staff writers I hired.

Someone else writing on a public forum something that you take as disrespectful -- whether it's your perception, or reality -- is no excuse for you to disrespect them. Rise above, my friend.

That said, I found in your responses far more disrespect than was being shown to you.

The bottom line is: Be professional. It's required to make it as a serious journalist/writer.

If you're currently not getting paid to write about knives and have any aspirations of ever doing so, then I suggest an immediate and complete change in behavior.

 

[Fross]

**The blatant attack on Ern is really bothering me as well, and then you treat the fact that a man went through a period of unemployment as if it is some sort of definition of his character, what does this say about you? You mention how bad the economy is over there and then turn around and badger a man that has fallen victim to the very same animal? I have been unemployed for a while, not being able to find work is NO FUN and the fact that you make light if that situation alone speaks immeasurably about your own character.

I can assure you that when someone goes looking for you on the web and they stumble across this thread and discover how you treat your prospective clients they will heed many of the warnings posted here. Its just bad business and really it is now verging on the point of just plain rudeness and contempt.

Thanks Ern, you have probably saved many people a lot of grief.

**(This message was typed during my FREE TIME that I have accrued for the month of July, please note accrued time cannot be "rolled over", if such FREE TIME were to expire then that FREE TIME would become property of the space time continuum.)

 

[Mr.dave.89]

Gentlemen, I will reply to all your questions at once, in another post tonight. My son and nephews are running wild, and it is time to eat. I wished to start again and move forward. I did take things toooooooooo personal, but I guess now so are many of you. Hay, but ok. WHATever.

 

[bigern26]

Thank you all!!

Just to let everyone know, I did not start the thread on knifedogs or take part in this one just to single out Mr. Bolton. I would and will continue to do this to anyone that is a threat to myself or other knife makers. I have not been in the game for a long time but I consider a lot of you friends and I am sure I can make friends with everyone on here. 12345678910 and myself had an argument in the past, I think it was more a misunderstanding than anything.
I do apologize to him for that. And if I ever meet him I will buy him a cup of coffee:thumbup:

Mr. Bolton, Just so you know yes I was collecting unemployment for a while but that does not necessarily mean I was looking for work. The place where I work lays me off once or twice a year. for a month or two. This helps me out because I can get stuff done at home and also work on knives, I do still provide for my family by means of unemployment compensation. Its not much but it gets us by.


I also noticed that you mentioned my daughter, Well if you must know I have 3, ages 2, 8, and 10. I know what its like to have a bunch of children around since I have 7 nieces and 6 nephews and they visit often. So Please do not try to test my ignorance.

My reason to first ask about you is because If you were for real It would have helped my to send you a knife, but for me to send a knife to you and never get it back or get a review written would cost me money, I do give out knives once and a while but every knife I make costs me money and if I can make money from a knife I will. That's what we as knife makers do.

I told you I would be happy to send you a knife for a deposit that would be returned as soon as the knife is returned in 100% condition. Yes I know for a testing review that would be impossible, See Mr. Bolton that was more of a test than anything. If you would have replied with something like...........
I cannot return the knife in 100% condition because I am going to test it in different cutting situations!, well then we probably could have worked something out like, Ok just return the knife along with a copy of the written, published article and I will send the deposit back. That would have worked for me. But instead you replied back to me with immature put downs and told me I was not the type of person that you want to do business with and that I need to step into the real world because I know nothing after only making 9 knives.
Well sir Sorry to tell you this but..................Yes I am the type of person you want to do business with..........A KNIFE MAKER.
Isn't that who you have been targeting with all your emails?



Sorry all for the long rambling post but I wanted to get that off my chest!!

 

[NeoClassic]

...I did take things toooooooooo personal, but I guess now so are many of you. ...

Again -- going back to my post above -- that's no justification for your behavior. There is no justification for your behavior.

You bear the burden of responsibility for your own actions.

EDIT: Let's put this in business terms, since that's really what this all boils down to:

Hypothetically speaking, you as a writer come to me as an editor wanting to write for my publication. I go online to find out more about you.

I read these threads and see how you have acted towards others. I don't give you the assignment.

I read these threads and see how others have acted towards you. It doesn't factor into the equation.

I get a call from a fellow editor at another publication five years later asking about whether I've heard anything about you because you've just pitched them an article and they're not sure whether they should assign it to you (this has happened numerous times). I tell my colleague what I read about you online and that I didn't assign you a story because of it.

Get it?