Possible scam

If you say you were born in the U.S., served as a soldier for the armed forces, and... AND... AND minored in JOURNALISM... but come onto the forums writing in engrish - - - - -


Then you instantly paint yourself with a giant red flag.
 
I vote for go mike as the replacement writer. Better grammar and writing, plus much more common sense in dealing with others. He also happens to be the youngest one amongst us. Who says, with age comes wisdom?
 
Well I'm still just fine with Dave, and if he cares to leave a deposit I'll gladly send him a gorgeous custom knife for review. If he expects to keep it of course, or his editor, then the deposit becomes payment in full.

I wouldn't read too much into his sloppy spelling, and I can't recommend extrapolating so many conclusions based on this or that. Fact is, legit or not, if he leaves adeposit or pays outright then it doesn't matter. If he gets any for free, then the guy who sends them is taking a risk that a) he's even legit and b) that even if he is, will anyone even read the review?

Oh and his comment about "not a good guy to scam"...I didn't take it the way the earlier poster did. I don't think he was saying "some people are easier to scam than others". I think he meant if he was going to try a scam, he'd be stupid to have tried it on a famous artisan.

About unemployment- join the club. I've been a land surveyor for 30 some-odd years and I haven't had a billable hour in a coon's age. So don't anyone start badmouthing people for beig out of work. A whole lot of people are out of work these days.
 
Tippet said:
I wouldn't read too much into his sloppy spelling, and I can't recommend extrapolating so many conclusions based on this or that.
Click to expand...

I applaud your open mindedness.

But I have ALWAYS regretted hiring/working with writers who couldn't be troubled to spell correctly or use proper verb conjugation in their written communications to the degree that Mr.Dave repeatedly has in this thread.

It has proven, in every instance, to be a telltale sign of more serious issues with regard to that person's work -- in my experience.

It's tantamount to finding gaps between the liners and the handle of a new knife you just paid for. Sure you can overlook it, but it doesn't inspire confidence, and in many cases, it's so bad you can't live with it and/or you might as well have put the handle scales on yourself.
 
Tippet said:
Well I'm still just fine with Dave, and if he cares to leave a deposit I'll gladly send him a gorgeous custom knife for review. If he expects to keep it of course, or his editor, then the deposit becomes payment in full.

I wouldn't read too much into his sloppy spelling, and I can't recommend extrapolating so many conclusions based on this or that. Fact is, legit or not, if he leaves adeposit or pays outright then it doesn't matter. If he gets any for free, then the guy who sends them is taking a risk that a) he's even legit and b) that even if he is, will anyone even read the review?

Oh and his comment about "not a good guy to scam"...I didn't take it the way the earlier poster did. I don't think he was saying "some people are easier to scam than others". I think he meant if he was going to try a scam, he'd be stupid to have tried it on a famous artisan.

About unemployment- join the club. I've been a land surveyor for 30 some-odd years and I haven't had a billable hour in a coon's age. So don't anyone start badmouthing people for beig out of work. A whole lot of people are out of work these days.
Click to expand...

Actually I agree with you.
If David contacted me right now I to would send him a knife as soon as a legit deposit was in my possession. I have a feeling that the review would not be fair to my knife, but he would be writing about me.

Also if he sends you a deposit make sure it is legit because him and his so called editor are looking for new knives for their collection.

That's another thing I cannot seem to get out of my head..............
Why on earth would his editor get the samples? Wouldn't a freelance writer get to keep them? I mean he is doing all the work.
 
There are a lot of question marks popping into my head whenever I read one of Mr. Dave's responses.

Like if he did any research at all on these forums why would he have contacted Ern at all? (no offense Ernie I think you are doing great work!) He contacts you THEN after you question him he says you wouldn't be a person he would want to review anyway (I forget his exact reason but maybe because you haven't made many kinves??? but I thought that was part of your story on your website where he got your email addy???:confused:???). What if Ernie had never search for info on him or anyone had posted anything. Mr. Dave prob would have gone through with taking a sample of Ernies work and MAY have written a review eventually, that MAY or MAY NOT have been published, and if the article was published or not and if it was a good or bad review he STILL gets to keep the knife........ which is better than no knife when you like knives like all of us do :D

It just sounds like a win win for Mr. Dave and a loose loose for anyone who sends him a knife. If it were me trying to get articles published and trying to get samples of said product from individuals to review I would be going over the top with niceties to get the product and would feel ABSOLUTELY NO right to keep said product especially when they are usually valued in excess of a few hundred dollars. I would sure as heck either put a deposit on it or send it back when done. I just don't see the mindset of being entitled to keep a few hundred dollar high quality knife for writing an article in a small, new, foreign magazine. It would be different if it was in a monthly, US based mag, where you are a monthly featured writer doing monthly reviews on up and coming makers with a photo spread and documented circulation #'s and sending said published article to the reviewed maker. After all of that I would prob STILL send the knife back! You don't get to do what you are doing until people feel it would be a privilege for you to review their knives as an experienced writer and respected reviewer. From the sounds of everything you have written you don't come close to meeting those criteria.

I'm just trying to understand the situation and it sounds like he is really a legit "writer" who writes for a magazine occasionally. But the way you are approaching it seems like you are just a knife collector looking for a few free knives however you can get them. If your written article doesn't get published : you get a knife. If it does: you get a knife. And I have a VERY hard time believing that your editor has kept half of the knives when it sounds like half of the articles you submit don't make it into the mag anyway.

Which lead me to this:

I pose this to Mr. Dave. If you want to try and repair all of the doubt in every ones mind here and in your own words "start over" you need to start putting deposits on knives and sending them back. And NO excuses about how you only make such and such amount of money and can't afford to do it. Once you save enough for one when you return the knife and get your money back , wait for it............. YOU CAN PUT THAT DEPOSIT DOWN ON ANOTHER ONE! If you are truly serious about getting in good graces and want to keep reviewing knives you will save every dollar you can and even though it might take you a little time to save it you should do it. Heck, if your article generates enough interest in a makers knives that he gets a lot of orders he might even want you to keep the knife or may refer others to get their knives reviewed and you won't have to send knives back anymore. But hey that is just what I would do. Anyone want to send me a knife?
 
Last edited:
Mr.dave.89 said:
Gentlemen, I will reply to all your questions at once, in another post tonight. My son and nephews are running wild, and it is time to eat. I wished to start again and move forward. I did take things toooooooooo personal, but I guess now so are many of you. Hay, but ok. WHATever.
Click to expand...
Guys,

I popped in earlier after Mr.dave.89 was going to round up his son and nephews and eat , well he was here at 4:20 PM and I just checked
and he was here again at 6:52.
If it were me I wouldn't send this guy a thing.
Not trying to cause trouble but something smells fishy to me.

Doug
 
Don't forget, whether or not his article makes it into the magazine, he can try and sell it to any other mag he wants, anywhere in the world.
 
tattooedfreak said:
Don't forget, whether or not his article makes it into the magazine, he can try and sell it to any other mag he wants, anywhere in the world.
Click to expand...

But it doesn't seem he really cares if it gets printed in another magazine anywhere else because he still keeps the knife.
 
I just got another email from Mr. Bolton's Reference list.

This person asked to remain anonymous. They did however state the they sent David a sample quite some time ago and have not heard of any article that has been written nor had the knives come back.
 
Just me, but the only way I'd send this guy any knife, is if he paid full price up front for it.
 
<*>snore</*>
Floggin' a dead horse.

Better to wax the dolphin...
speaking of that...
Nice avatar Danbo
I like that. I really like that.
I think I'll retire now from the "possible scam" conversation, best of luck you guys.
 
Gents, We can chat LATER. RIGHt now......................SPAIN, WON THE WORLD CUP. VIVA VIVA VIVA ESPANA. VIVA VIVA VIVA ESPANA. VIVA VIVA VIVA ESPANA.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top