Production Emerson Knives Are Not Show Pieces

freewheeling said:
Plus, we all know that it's the "wave" that keeps Emerson competitive. Once the patent expires on that Emerson had better have something else in the pipeline or they won't be around.
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I love the wave and, as you can surmise by reading my comments, I'm not a huge fan of Emersons, but while the loss of that patent may hurt them but I doubt it'll be a death blow. They have an image and reputation that helps them a great deal and, pricing issues aside, they make solid knives.
 
How about knives made using atomically precise manufacturing that have all the advantages of superior blade steels but have no metal in the blade at all, and the material has the capacity to resharpen itself and heal nicks and scratches? These can be made in factories the size of an office desk at speeds that dwarf current production. This is not an exaggeration. It will happen within the next 25 years, to an absolute certainty, and possibly much sooner.
 
fzla226 said:
How does poor fitting of materials or poor value make a knife more "hard use". Let alone something like a Benchmade Axis lock or similar type of knife would stand up to things that would break that emerson easily and those cost less, and have generally better F&F.
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- I love Benchmade's Axis lock. It doesn't change the fact that two of the Omega springs broke in my Kulgera after 2 years. Not during use, but simply from opening and closing it every day.
 
Seilu said:
While I like Emersons, it's really overpriced for what you get. You're not paying for high end materials honestly, you're paying for the namesake
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+1

Emersons is obviously overpriced but people still buying its because of the name stamped on the blade.
 
I think folks buy Emerson knives because they like them.
If you ever hold an Emerson knife, well, that's another very good reason.
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If you are going to actually use them, they'll get scratched anyway.

This is my knife. I've had it for a little over 13 years. The green coating on the blade has a fair amount of wear. But given the mileage it has, I think it has held up rather well. I've taken this knife with me to some really unpleasant areas of the world and it has never let me down - and I've used it pretty hard. I just got it back from EKI where they put a brand-new factory edge on it! I'm very pleased.

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Now that's a well-used Emerson knife! I think it looks great, and has plenty of life left to it. A true hard-use knife, thanks for showing that
 
Been a big EKI fan for years, and turned a lotta' people into "knife guys" with wave demo's. I do appreciate Emersons, but I will admit that their pricing is way too high IMHO. I have picked most of mine up off the secondary market and thus avoided that issue. Still, for me, as functionally fantastic as they are, they are not worth what is currently being charged new. I too suspect limited supply has much to do with pricing and available inventory.
 
I've watched this thread since the first three posts and I've finally figured out where I fit in. I love those user pix, by the way. That teen-aged Commander is really special. I hope my mini-15 looks that well loved when it hits 13 YO. I agree that Emersons are pricey compared to what some other companies charge for using the same materials in their knives. Thing is, I know what materials Emerson uses, I know where they fit on the scale of "tried-and-true" to "super-xxx", and I know how my Emersons perform in their intended tasks. I know all of this and I'm willing to pay what Emerson charges for a new knife if it's a design that I like. Sure, I'd like to see them come down in price some. But I'm the only one that can decide for me whether something is "overvalued" or not. I don't consider Emersons over priced... I consider them high priced. But I also consider how well the overall package works for me, how dependable every one of my Emersons has been, and how close they come to what I want in a perfect daily carry knife that has to be able to do different things in different settings.

I know other folks see Emersons differently. That's fine. I can only speak for what I think about 'em. But I think I'm probably pretty average for an Emerson user. I'm not a collector, I'm not interested in the newest anything, and I value things for how they work for me much more than by what they cost me. Emersons do what I want the way I want them done better than most other brands. If they're old-school and yesterday's technology... well... so am I. Took folks in my church and my family a long time to convince me to get a tablet and a smart phone. I got along fine for years with a steno pad and a number 2 pencil. Like I keep telling them... "I'm not anti-technology, I'm just opposed to progress." :D
 
The fact that he is willing to produce a Left Handed knife in spite of it being a very limited market, he gets my business.
 
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Emerson knives are meant to be uesd blah blah glee-Sounds like a crock of ^&%*! And well places marketing strategy from Emerson for the masses who want to believe it without thinking for themselves.

Bottom line is there are numberous other hard use knives with cheaper prices like ZT ..ect. that do the same thing as an Emerson and they DON"T have the quality control issues associated with Emersons!
 
colubrid said:
Bottom line is there are numberous other hard use knives with cheaper prices like ZT ..ect. that do the same thing as an Emerson and they DON"T have the quality control issues associated with Emersons!
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- ZT makes great knives, but they are not immune to quality control issues (just like every manufacturer). You can find QC threads in every manufacturer's forum on BF.
 
colubrid said:
Emerson knives are meant to be uesd blah blah glee-Sounds like a crock of ^&%*! And well places marketing strategy from Emerson for the masses who want to believe it without thinking for themselves.

Bottom line is there are numberous other hard use knives with cheaper prices like ZT ..ect. that do the same thing as an Emerson and they DON"T have the quality control issues associated with Emersons!
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So what Emerson do you have on the way?
 
What you say about there being other great knives out there for less money that will perform excellently in the field is absolutely true.

So what?

There are lots of sports cars... or off road utility vehicles... whatever... that will all do the same thing. What make do you want to buy? What features do you prefer?

I buy Emersons based (now) on a solid personal track record of performance and portability. I personally like the chisel-grind. I like the blade design. It works for me. I've used others that I'd rely on as well - Spyderco, Strider (though they make "HUGE" pocket knives) and they've all got things about them that I like. Emerson made it to top of the heap for me just by the fact that I kept on finding that it was the knife I gravitated to all the time.
 
I'm retiring my green blade from overseas work. I'm kind of attached to it and don't want to lose it. I've replaced it with a Super CQC8. I didn't realize just how big this knife would be when I bought it. I mean... It's almost silly. However, it fits a pocket extremely well and doesn't eat up a lot of real estate. I love the balance and feel of it - very handy. I just thought folks might like a visual comparison to get an idea of size here...
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I don't think they made different-sized Commanders back then. The Super CQC8 takes some getting used to as the blade is upswept. When pulling my knife out of my pocket once I stabbed myself in the knuckle. Bled like a pig. So sharp that it didn't even hurt - just messy. A buddy of mine was handling it and go a bit of a poke himself.

My "point" is that the combination of increased length and the shape of the Super CQC8 blade means taking some time to get used to handling it before taking it places you would really need it. In all honesty, I might have gone with the regular CQC8 if I held them side by side. However, there are real advantages to this larger sized blade. My biggest thing is gloves. The handle is bigger so it is easier to handle while wearing gloves. Secondly some places are more blade cultures so to speak. Guns are relatively commonplace, but the display of a blade sends a much more aggressive and intimidating message. Blades don't fire warning shots.
 
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