Putin's knife?

Does Russia really have that much in terms of natural resources? We import more oil from Africa than anywhere else in the world, the Middle East included, these days. Unless we're scheming to steal Russia's trees and glacier water (maybe not SUCH a far-fetched idea) I doubt we're interested in their natural resources so much as worried about the economic force their population could become if pushed in the right direction (think China, here).

Many (not all!) Muslims around the world are angry with the US because we invaded a sovereign, primarily-Muslim nation (although to be fair, Iraq's pre-invasion government was non-secular, at least by Middle Eastern standards).
While I don't agree with their opinion of us, I think I can at least understand where some of the anger is coming from.

So if the USA is not interested in that area why it's positioning military bases/troops in direction towards Russia (in central Europe) and around southern russian borders, in the former soviet republics ?
 
My guess, and I'm no military strategist, would be that it's just posturing- much like Russia has resumed flying long-range bomber sorties near/into US territory. We're flexing our muscles because Russia has been flexing hers.

Of course I could be wrong! If the nukes are on their way I hope I'm incinerated in the initial blast. ;)
 
My guess, and I'm no military strategist, would be that it's just posturing- much like Russia has resumed flying long-range bomber sorties near/into US territory. We're flexing our muscles because Russia has been flexing hers.

Of course I could be wrong! If the nukes are on their way I hope I'm incinerated in the initial blast. ;)

Your guess is wrong. As I remember the "Russia" (the USSR actualy) removed its military presence from the central Europe. The USA not only it haven't got out of Germany but attacked Serbs (Bosna,Serbia), occupied serbian territory (Kosovo) and intends to infest (apropriate expression) other Eastern European land with military presence and missiles. That's not only posturing I guess.
 
Russia has very, very rich natural resources, and much of it is untapped, particularly in Siberia. However, the Russian population is in somewhat of a decline.

I know this has little to do with the topic of knives, but personally, I know Russian foreign politics well enough to know they still consider themselves a superpower, and treat Baltic countries and to an extent Finland as if they were part of Russia, or at least very nearly so. Very invasive and aggressive style of politics indeed, but then again, that's always been typical of Russian foreign politics. I find it quite ironic, knowing many Russians personally, and all of them being quite anti-authority, freedom-loving and individualistic, not to mention smart.

This in mind, sure, some Russians are concerned about American influence in nearby areas, but honestly, there's no way in hell the USA is ever going to invade Russia, unless to start WW3, and I don't see any western country being mad enough to do that. Although much can be said about the USA as a superpower, fact remains, they're still the only global superpower that hasn't invaded and occupied large territories of foreign soil as their own, although they could have. That's very admirable indeed. If anyone is going to invade Russia, it's going to be China, and I don't find that very likely to ever happen, either.

In short, the whole North Pole thing, the bombing flights, it's all just posturing and flexing muscles. Russia has serious internal problems, like the murders of Litvinenko and Politkovskaja demonstrate, and flexing military muscle has always worked to raise nationalist spirit and make people forget, for a moment, about some very glaring internal issues. That, and Russian politicians have always been intensely paranoid about both foreign and domestic threats: some of them, no doubt, really believe the USA might want to invade them, however insane that idea sounds to everyone else.
 
I agree with Vassili too. I also believe they have huge that Russians have oil deposits. From what I know, Russia has re-negotiated all its outstanding loans and has managed to pay them out before their maturity date. We are talking billions of dollars here not some petty cash. If you have the time this would be a good report to read:
www.whiskeyandgunpowder.com/ppc/RussianOilReport2.html

Further to that, Putin is an Orthodox Christian. Regarding the knife, it could be a modified Pokara Tommi:
PokaraTommiT79w.jpg
 
I know this has little to do with the topic of knives, but personally, I know Russian foreign politics well enough to know they still consider themselves a superpower, and treat Baltic countries and to an extent Finland as if they were part of Russia, or at least very nearly so.

It will be interesting to here what in particular you mean saying Russia treat Finland as it is part of Russia (which it was). Of course it is only Russian and American news available for me not Finland, so I may not know and you opinion will be very interesting. Lets not talk about Estonia, Latvia and Litva.

About seriouce internal problems - hard to beleave. Russian economy is booming, approval rating of Putin is huge. Let me explain why, because it may not be really clear for Westerner.

Russian state during Eltzin era get used to not to pay salary and retierment pentions. So you came to you work for your monthly salary and have - "Sorry, we just do not have money this month". This was on regular bases, people have no salary for six months continuing to work.

This affects almost all Russian because they were in general state employees. And it includes state manufacturing workers, police, medical doctors, military, science, education... and all retiered old people. This was "normal practice" for years - all over 90th!

Now can you imagine similar situation let say in England or France - it will be raids all over countries! But this brutal, bad Russians just wait and try to survive one or other way, planting potatoes on the small piece of land near their house etc...

When Putin became prime minister of Eltzin first what he did - stop this practice all salary get paid in time now, every month you have your money plus he pay off all debt - remember people did not have salaries for 6 months.

After this it is hard to be not elected, I even say that if somebody try not to let Putin being president most likely people of Russia will make him anyway. He may dance on the Red Square naked and will be elected anyway! In the Western news it was presented as he was elected because of his success in Chechnya - but I hope you see now that this is silly and simplistic and did not show any understanding of situation in Russia that days - just usual excuse.

Now with economy booming Russia turning into something like US and general population less and less care about Europe, other World, all what western news talk about focusing on internal affairs - actually "Paris Hilton in jail" kind of news.

Thanks, Vassili
 
Good observation on Paris Hilton news, Vassili. If you want real news here it's available, but you have to dig for it.

Nice knives, BTW.
 
Your guess is wrong. As I remember the "Russia" (the USSR actualy) removed its military presence from the central Europe. The USA not only it haven't got out of Germany but attacked Serbs (Bosna,Serbia), occupied serbian territory (Kosovo) and intends to infest (apropriate expression) other Eastern European land with military presence and missiles. That's not only posturing I guess.

You have GOT to be kidding me . . .

The USSR ran out of money and had to consolidate.
The US/NATO offered to come in and assist those countries with rebuilding and entering the 21st century, and they accepted.
If they ever ask us to leave, like the Philippines did, we will go. What happened when the USSR was asked to leave? Ask Hungary . . .


But, pray tell; why did the US attack Serbia and occupy Kosovo?

I seem to remember something about genocide, but I could be wrong.


Litmus test:
In 1947, did the US interfere with the soviets by airlifting supplies, or were we protecting the civilians in Berlin?
 
It will be interesting to here what in particular you mean saying Russia treat Finland as it is part of Russia (which it was). Of course it is only Russian and American news available for me not Finland, so I may not know and you opinion will be very interesting. Lets not talk about Estonia, Latvia and Litva.

About seriouce internal problems - hard to beleave. Russian economy is booming, approval rating of Putin is huge. Let me explain why, because it may not be really clear for Westerner.

Russian state during Eltzin era get used to not to pay salary and retierment pentions. So you came to you work for your monthly salary and have - "Sorry, we just do not have money this month". This was on regular bases, people have no salary for six months continuing to work.

This affects almost all Russian because they were in general state employees. And it includes state manufacturing workers, police, medical doctors, military, science, education... and all retiered old people. This was "normal practice" for years - all over 90th!

Now can you imagine similar situation let say in England or France - it will be raids all over countries! But this brutal, bad Russians just wait and try to survive one or other way, planting potatoes on the small piece of land near their house etc...

When Putin became prime minister of Eltzin first what he did - stop this practice all salary get paid in time now, every month you have your money plus he pay off all debt - remember people did not have salaries for 6 months.

After this it is hard to be not elected, I even say that if somebody try not to let Putin being president most likely people of Russia will make him anyway. He may dance on the Red Square naked and will be elected anyway! In the Western news it was presented as he was elected because of his success in Chechnya - but I hope you see now that this is silly and simplistic and did not show any understanding of situation in Russia that days - just usual excuse.

Now with economy booming Russia turning into something like US and general population less and less care about Europe, other World, all what western news talk about focusing on internal affairs - actually "Paris Hilton in jail" kind of news.

Thanks, Vassili

One thing that I have learned about Russians:
You/they do NOT forget.

Yugoslavia fought a delaying action in WWII that stopped the Germans from waltzing into the Southern area of the USSR.
Because of this, Russia stood behind the Yugoslavians ever since.
It's an admirable quality.

But, I would not be surprised if there were/are still hard feelings towards Finland.
Finland was allied with the Germans for most of WWII . . . and when the Soviets invaded Finland prior to the war, things didn't turn out as they had hoped (despite Molotov's massive bombing campaign).
 
You have GOT to be kidding me . . .

The USSR ran out of money and had to consolidate.
The US/NATO offered to come in and assist those countries with rebuilding and entering the 21st century, and they accepted.
If they ever ask us to leave, like the Philippines did, we will go. What happened when the USSR was asked to leave? Ask Hungary . . .


But, pray tell; why did the US attack Serbia and occupy Kosovo?

I seem to remember something about genocide, but I could be wrong.


Litmus test:
In 1947, did the US interfere with the soviets by airlifting supplies, or were we protecting the civilians in Berlin?

Well I knew somebody would mention the USSR run out of money...hey, they could remove the armed forced from East Germany and leave or put only missiles with crews there...how much does this cost...not that much I suppose right?

Yes, the USA always offers help and if you refuse you get bombed right?

Regarding cowardly criminal and illegal (by international law) aggression on Serbia, what genocide? you still repeat that propaganda crap, like a broken record ...the only genocide in Kosovo has been perpetrated by albanian muslims against the Serbs...just it has always been...since the muslim turkish dirt invaded Europe....
 
It will be interesting to here what in particular you mean saying Russia treat Finland as it is part of Russia (which it was). Of course it is only Russian and American news available for me not Finland, so I may not know and you opinion will be very interesting. Lets not talk about Estonia, Latvia and Litva.

About seriouce internal problems - hard to beleave. Russian economy is booming, approval rating of Putin is huge. Let me explain why, because it may not be really clear for Westerner.

Russian state during Eltzin era get used to not to pay salary and retierment pentions. So you came to you work for your monthly salary and have - "Sorry, we just do not have money this month". This was on regular bases, people have no salary for six months continuing to work.

This affects almost all Russian because they were in general state employees. And it includes state manufacturing workers, police, medical doctors, military, science, education... and all retiered old people. This was "normal practice" for years - all over 90th!

Now can you imagine similar situation let say in England or France - it will be raids all over countries! But this brutal, bad Russians just wait and try to survive one or other way, planting potatoes on the small piece of land near their house etc...

When Putin became prime minister of Eltzin first what he did - stop this practice all salary get paid in time now, every month you have your money plus he pay off all debt - remember people did not have salaries for 6 months.

After this it is hard to be not elected, I even say that if somebody try not to let Putin being president most likely people of Russia will make him anyway. He may dance on the Red Square naked and will be elected anyway! In the Western news it was presented as he was elected because of his success in Chechnya - but I hope you see now that this is silly and simplistic and did not show any understanding of situation in Russia that days - just usual excuse.

Now with economy booming Russia turning into something like US and general population less and less care about Europe, other World, all what western news talk about focusing on internal affairs - actually "Paris Hilton in jail" kind of news.

Thanks, Vassili

Well, I mean the way Russia constantly interferes in the internal affairs of its independent neighbouring nations, such as Finland, and most recently Estonia. Russia is always making statements how, for example, Finland's possible membership in NATO would severely damage Finnish-Russian relations, and sending fighter aircraft to make a couple of "accidental" intrusions into Finnish airspace every single year. Sure, that is not atypical for any superpower, but Russia really has a way of pushing it far more than others.

As for Finland having been a part of Russia, yes, after Russia invaded what was then the Finnish province of the Kingdom of Sweden. And only two decades after Finland had declared independence, Russia (or the Soviet Union, as it was then), invaded Finland again. That's really not the way to treat your neighbours and expect good relations. ;) Sure, this is all in the past, but what is not in the past is the way countries treat each other diplomatically this very day.

I remember very well how the times were in Russia after the collapse of the Union and during Boris Yeltsin's rule. Had a Russian school teacher, very smart, about thirty years old, move next to me during those years. She said, she hadn't been paid for the last eight months, so she literally couldn't live in Russia anymore, so she came to Finland, where she had some relatives. Bad days, and not really surprising, seeing how enormous the change was from the Soviet Union to a freer, capitalist economy and at least a somewhat democratic society. Make things better, and it's easy to get popular. :)

The internal problems I referred to are not quite the same type of problems as those experienced after the collapse of the Union. I'm talking political assassinations (Politkovskaja, anyone?), very brutal treatment of conscripts during military training, the whole case with Chechnya, and more. These are not the kind of things that will cause an immediate revolution, but neither are they things that any politician in power would want citizens talking about while reading the morning paper at breakfast.

All in all, Russia has a long way to go before being a truly democratic nation, and one that does not treat neighbours as though property. But certainly, the Russia that exists today is a much more pleasant neighbour than the Soviet Union ever was, and things are changing. There are certainly some things western countries might want to learn from Russia: like how not to give in to the madness of multiculturality, and allow an army of islamic fanatics to storm the west.

But I digress again, and I think I've gone a tad too political for the rules of this forum, so, sorry about that. I'll get on topic now.
 
Back on topic:

Whatever the knife is, I'm sure it was a gift.

But, if he's fishing, wouldn't it be a fillet knife?
 
Well I knew somebody would mention the USSR run out of money...hey, they could remove the armed forced from East Germany and leave or put only missiles with crews there...how much does this cost...not that much I suppose right?

Yes, the USA always offers help and if you refuse you get bombed right?

Regarding cowardly criminal and illegal (by international law) aggression on Serbia, what genocide? you still repeat that propaganda crap, like a broken record ...the only genocide in Kosovo has been perpetrated by albanian muslims against the Serbs...just it has always been...since the muslim turkish dirt invaded Europe....

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Wow.
 
Back on topic:

Whatever the knife is, I'm sure it was a gift.

But, if he's fishing, wouldn't it be a fillet knife?

I'm not so sure... the sheath doesn't look like one you'd most likely see on a fillet knife, and neither does that wooden handle. And over here, lots of fishermen use more general use knives for fishing than dedicated fillet knives. But I really don't know. Would be interesting to know what he's using. But I'm pretty darn sure it's either Russian made, or from a Scandinavian maker.
 
One thing that I have learned about Russians:
You/they do NOT forget.

Yugoslavia fought a delaying action in WWII that stopped the Germans from waltzing into the Southern area of the USSR.
Because of this, Russia stood behind the Yugoslavians ever since.
It's an admirable quality.

But, I would not be surprised if there were/are still hard feelings towards Finland.
Finland was allied with the Germans for most of WWII . . . and when the Soviets invaded Finland prior to the war, things didn't turn out as they had hoped (despite Molotov's massive bombing campaign).


Wrong. At least regarding Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia was artificial state created or based likely on some fag masonic idea or experiment. The Russia (Tsarist Russia) was considered as traditional supporter/ally of the Serbs (although the history has proven this is more like obssesive western fixation than the real fact),actualy Tsarist Russia supported Christian orthodox peoples in general in their fight against muslim (turkish) oppresors or any othet oppresor/enemy. When Russian state was destroyed by genocidal bolshevik butchers (supported by the Germany and other western countries) contemporary kingdom of Yugoslavia had never established relations to bolshevik Soviet Union like western european countries had. After WW2 the commies (supported by the traitorous english cunts) took control over the Yugoslavia and the Croat Josip Broz called also Tito (the self proclaimed field marshal and the top commie leader of new socialist Yugoslavia) broke all ties with his former master Joseph Stalin and so forth...so I suggest you pick up some books and start reading before speaking about these matters
 
Wrong. At least regarding Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia was artificial state created or based likely on some fag masonic idea or experiment. The Russia (Tsarist Russia) was considered as traditional supporter/ally of the Serbs (although the history has proven this is more like obssesive western fixation than the real fact),actualy Tsarist Russia supported Christian orthodox peoples in general in their fight against muslim (turkish) oppresors or any othet oppresor/enemy. When Russian state was destroyed by genocidal bolshevik butchers (supported by the Germany and other western countries) contemporary kingdom of Yugoslavia had never established relations to bolshevik Soviet Union like western european countries had. After WW2 the commies (supported by the traitorous english cunts) took control over the Yugoslavia and the Croat Josip Broz called also Tito (the self proclaimed field marshal and the top commie leader of new socialist Yugoslavia) broke all ties with his former master Joseph Stalin and so forth...so I suggest you pick up some books and start reading before speaking about these matters

So there was no Partisan resistance in Yugoslavia during WWII that held up the German Advance?
And the Yugoslavians didn't pay heavily for their resistance?

CRAP!!! Must . . . re-learn . . . world . . . history.

Another litmus test:
Stalin, hero or tyrant?
 
THIS changed my life!!!

Back on the knife:
How easy would it be to skin a fish with a blade that size if it isn't a fillet knife?
 
So there was no Partisan resistance in Yugoslavia during WWII that held up the German Advance?
And the Yugoslavians didn't pay heavily for their resistance?

I will explain a couple of facts since it seems you are quite ignorant.
The first who initiated uprising against the german occupiers were royalist Serb fighters known as Chetniks...the socalled Partisans mainly fought against the Chetniks and from time to time provoking and attacking germans which only triggered german reprisals (100 serbs to be shot for every german soldier killed) against civilian serb population...The croats were on german side,massively killing serbian population in "Indenpendent state of Croatia",as you can see the Serbs paid the price...so who/where are those "Yugoslavians" you persistantly keep mentioning them?
 
I think Putins knife is a Brusletto from the pin and handle as well as the sheath.

Hyperborean Yugoslavia was a great example of how Communism should work. They had a great standard of living and peace between Serb ,muslim and Croat. Yugoslavia was where the soviets and other communist went on vacation. The idea that the Serbs were innocent victims of the war is so laughable it is hard to belive you are actually serious.

If Bush had a knife it would probably be an american design that is made in china by slave labour.

I don't know why so many people here are so anti communist ther than left over cold war propaganda. I have been to Cuba and am going back this winter on another vacation and compared to Haiti or even a poor neighbourhood in the US it is a great place to live.
They have 100% literacy and free health care for everyone.

People in the rest of the world like Castro like americans like Reagan and the rest of the world likes Reagan like americans like Castro.
 
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