Quartermaster knives

Honestly I have a feeling quartermaster knives is using the swiss watch loop hole to making their knives. Most people assume a swiss watch is 100% swiss made. This isnt the case. In fact due to some technicalities the majority of most watches can be made of chinese parts and still be called swiss made if certain guidelines are met. The recently tightened the reigns but watches still only need to be 60% swiss produced by value. Given you could probably make a whole watch in china for the cost of a set of genuine swiss hands you can imagine just how much actually needs to be "made" in Switzerland.

Its not an identical law but I know there are some loop holes in what can be called made, produced, or built in the usa. Quartermaster wouldnt be the first to use this loop hole. Nor will they be the last. If you look into the company Spyderco utilizes to make their Taichung products you will find pictures that shows handle slabs identical to those found on buck tempest models. And I have my suspicions about other companies as well who I believe arent 100% made in the USA like they claim. You have to remember that there is a big difference between "100% made in the usa" as we the consumer assume it means and what "made in the USA" means by law. Technically if quartermaster, buck or a number of other companies are manufacturing these products in line with what US laws states qualifies as USA made then its not lying even if a good portion of the work is done overseas. It doesnt help that the quality gap between chinese manufacturing and USA is quickly closing. Its very hard to determine these days where a product was made if no proof is provided. They say their products are made in USA. The blades are stamped as such. But who knows if that isnt the "USA Manufacturing costs" allowing them to call it as such.
 
dkb45 said:
If they hadn't been so insanely adamant on the whole "15000% US made!" part then this would be little issue. I don't mind a knife being made from Chinese parts, so long as the final f&f is here and it being called US made. If you have the machinery to tinker and adjust the f&f and you do so, then you can get the detail that a normal factory produced product doesn't get.

I feel like Quartermaster might be lying about everything being 100% US made from all US materials. Especially since they are getting shipments of knives from China. The quality of the knives is good, though. If they would be clearer on where the knives are made and clarify the shipments they get I would have no issue. A good product is a good product.
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I wouldn't be surprised if this were the case (knives made in China then final F&F done in the USA). The made in USA thing was never a draw for me with these knives anyway, so the fact that they may be made in China doesn't upset me at all, in and of itself. What does upset me is the possible dishonesty about it. If they are in fact made in China and finished in the USA, then just say so. Even if they were totally made and finished in China and just sold by QM, I wouldn't care about that, either, just TELL me that up front!

While there's no conclusive proof at this point, the bill of lading from China does raise some serious doubts.:confused::(
 
Bump. Wherever they're made, they do have spare parts available, if anyone's concerned about that. I partially stripped the Torx socket on one of the pivot screws on my QTR-2. Totally my fault, as I thought I'd put a T10 bit in the driver, but actually still had the T8 in it that I was using for the frame screws. :o:rolleyes: I emailed them, told them what happened, and asked about purchasing a new pivot screw. I got a reply asking what finish it was and saying that they would send me one at no charge. Just got it in the mail today, along with a QM decal and the latest mini catalog. :thumbup:
 
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That's interesting because I emailed them a whole back about a pocket clip and got nothing. Not even an automatic response. I will try emailing them again, because the Murdock I got on trade didn't have a pocket clip (but the ZT 560 clip fits well).
 
mossyhorn said:
I see that they are doing a limited edition frame lock with a Ti blade that's a collaboration with Warren Thomas.
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Was looking at this. It doesn't seem to use his signature chain bolt hardware and is missing the carbidized blade edge. Wonder if he actually made them or just licensed his design to them for a limited run of them.

Edit: Nevermind, looks like there just using his design and name.
 
FlipinBean said:
From what u understand they are ready to go. As soon as they land in Texas
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Hey I saw some of your Mantis reviews on youtube, looks like you have or had access to mantis's offices? Whats your connection, and what do you know about the quartermaster knives? Customers and potential customers should know.
 
dkb45 said:
That's interesting because I emailed them a whole back about a pocket clip and got nothing. Not even an automatic response. I will try emailing them again, because the Murdock I got on trade didn't have a pocket clip (but the ZT 560 clip fits well).
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I've emailed them twice through the contact form on their site and got an automated reply right away both times, followed by a response within a day or so. Definitely try again. I was gonna suggest calling, but I don't see a number anywhere on their site.:confused:

edit: If you emailed them via their site, you might try going directly through your own email. Send to sales@qtrmstr.com. :thumbup:
 
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I shot them an email using the address you posted. Hopefully their customer service gets me taken care of, and I can get my ugly baby (Murdock) back into pocket rotation.
 
I wasn't planning on getting back on here for the night, but I already got a response from Quartermaster. Definitely the fastest response I have ever gotten from any company. I will update on my knife when I get it back here in a few weeks.
 
G. Scott H. said:
I've emailed them twice through the contact form on their site and got an automated reply right away both times, followed by a response within a day or so. Definitely try again. I was gonna suggest calling, but I don't see a number anywhere on their site.:confused:

edit: If you emailed them via their site, you might try going directly through your own email. Send to sales@qtrmstr.com. :thumbup:
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You could always try the number for COPIOUSITY LLC:D
 
Thank you for the heads up guys.
I was ready to pull the trigger on the QTR-6 then I performed some due diligence . lol
Aka as searching Bladeforums.
I checked their site again.
Here's their headquarters' address.

Quartermaster Headquarters
Post Office Box 1121
Dripping Springs, TX 78620

It's a PO Box ?
If they don't show pictures of their plant and factory workers making knives right there in Texas, I'm really doubtful they are made there.
 
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Walker Smith said:
I checked their site again.
Here's their headquarters' address.

Quartermaster Headquarters
Post Office Box 1121
Dripping Springs, TX 78620

It's a PO Box ?
If they don't show pictures of their plant and factory workers making knives right there in Texas, I'm really doubtful they are made there.
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They must have realized people were on to them, cause that's not what it said even a month ago.

Was:
227 TURKEY DRIVE
Dripping Springs,TX 78620

Now:
Post Office Box 1121
Dripping Springs, TX 78620


Looks like an indirect admission of guilt to me.
 
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Didn't find anything on a 227 Turkey Drive in Austin. But there's a 227 Turkey Drive in Dripping Springs, Tx. :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtis_yD-Yp0

http://www.trulia.com/property/1061979991-227-Turkey-Dr-Dripping-Springs-TX-78620

This is the same house that was on their "About Us" page a month or two ago but the pictures have since been changed & just show a few machines used to make knives.

I thought it looked odd at the time since the description above the picture of that house read (& still does minus the pic):


"The QTRM5TR Equipment Factory is located in Central Texas, at the gateway to hill country. Our facility is state-of-the-art in every way, its been custom built from the ground up to accommodate nearly every process that a modern manufactory would/could use.

The 6-acre complex is under 24 hour surveillance using recently de-classified thermal imaging sensors.The 8,500 square foot facility is home to multiple design studios, think-tanks & a 3,000 sq ft shop floor. However, a medical-grade clean room and a 3 story-high knife museum with a biometric-scanner that allows/denies access are likely to be considered the highlights of our facility."


The house didn't seem to match that description to me & just looked like a home.
 
flatface77 said:
Didn't find anything on a 227 Turkey Drive in Austin. But there's a 227 Turkey Drive in Dripping Springs, Tx. :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtis_yD-Yp0

http://www.trulia.com/property/1061979991-227-Turkey-Dr-Dripping-Springs-TX-78620

This is the same house that was on their "About Us" page a month or two ago but the pictures have since been changed & just show a few machines used to make knives.

I thought it looked odd at the time since the description above the picture of that house read (& still does minus the pic):


"The QTRM5TR Equipment Factory is located in Central Texas, at the gateway to hill country. Our facility is state-of-the-art in every way, its been custom built from the ground up to accommodate nearly every process that a modern manufactory would/could use.

The 6-acre complex is under 24 hour surveillance using recently de-classified thermal imaging sensors.The 8,500 square foot facility is home to multiple design studios, think-tanks & a 3,000 sq ft shop floor. However, a medical-grade clean room and a 3 story-high knife museum with a biometric-scanner that allows/denies access are likely to be considered the highlights of our facility."


The house didn't seem to match that description to me & just looked like a home.
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lmao come on, really?
 
flatface77 said:
Didn't find anything on a 227 Turkey Drive in Austin. But there's a 227 Turkey Drive in Dripping Springs, Tx.
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You are correct sir, Dripping Springs is a suburb of Austin. I got my address off the Bill of Lading that was coming from China, makes sense they would maybe use the major city rather then the suburb on it (though the zip code is the same).

fzla226 said:
lmao come on, really?
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Really.
 
Do you have anything else to do other than camp my thread hating on everything? I made this thread to talk about experiences with the knives, not to just hate on something without experiencing it. The knives are good quality, prices are good, and they back their products 100% with their warranty.

Buy one of their knives or admit you have little legitimate reason to hate on the company. Suspicion without evidence is jot admission of guilt, it is actually just wild accusations.
 
dkb45 said:
Do you have anything else to do other than camp my thread hating on everything? I made this thread to talk about experiences with the knives, not to just hate on something without experiencing it. The knives are good quality, prices are good, and they back their products 100% with their warranty.
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Me? I'm merely posting here since this is where the information regarding Quartermaster being imported was first posted. It's not an attack on you or your thread, so please don't take it personal. And in reference to the quality of the knives, I've already said:
sh00ter01 said:
That's the thing, if you make a quality product, even if it's imported, it's likely to do well given a reasonable price. BUT if you're lying about country of origin in order to potentially sell more blades at a higher price point, well, you're just a real piece of S#!%.
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dkb45 said:
Buy one of their knives or admit you have little legitimate reason to hate on the company. Suspicion without evidence is jot admission of guilt, it is actually just wild accusations.
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I have considered buying one of their blades, a karambit (QTR-5?), but won't until it's clear what's really going on. I have no reason to hate them, just looking for clarification on the information that's been presented, and so far Quartermaster's actions have lead others and me to question if they are indeed telling the truth.
 
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