Random Thought Thread

Hey, any of you guys who have installed whole home generators, especially propane, I'd be interested in your thoughts regarding whether you've been satisfied with the performance, reliability, durability, warranty etc given the relatively high expense of installation.

We lose power a handful of times per year due to living in the mountains and trees falling on power lines and equipment, whether near or far away.

Not really interested in gasoline powered portable generators.

Thanks in advance.
I’ve installed a bunch of generators. Usually commercial and industrial so these are big generators but I’ve also done some residential units. These are typically Ng because I work in the city and suburbs. The only people that regret the decision are the ones that don’t get a maintenance plan. Two or three years down the road when it fails to start when needed they get all bent out of shape. If you get one make sure you know when it is set to exercise and keep an eye on it to make sure it starts quickly and easily.
There is not much to the maintenance side and a homeowner with good mechanical skills can learn everything needed to maintain the unit. So that bit is up to you. Outside of that people are always very happy they installed one. The money is worth it once or twice a year when you can look down upon the peons who don’t have one.
Just get it done by a professional.
 
Here is Nathan's current price list, to help check on flippers in the Exchange:

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That would be great if it were that black and white, Roland, but unfortunately, there are many layers to the onion that is CPK secondary pricing.

Quoted you over here as this is a subject that could generate some discussion and we don’t need it shitting up the other thread.
 
E, Coming from a guy who would always intend to turn his wife’s power back on quickly but is often chasing outages elsewhere, I’d say spend the money. There are far too many variables that decide how long it takes us to get the lights and heat back on. One outage may be a tree branch that can be removed easily and wham bam, lights are back on. The next might be dozens of broken poles and you’re out for days.

Why rely on fate? JMHO.
Been there before, brother. Hurricane Andrew...we were living on Key Biscayne, a barrier island and were without power or water for about a week or more.

Yeah, there's a lot that goes into it...and I'm trying to weigh the pros and cons carefully...and keep emotion out of it as much as possible.

Thanks for the input, M.
 
That would be great if it were that black and white, Roland, but unfortunately, there are many layers to the onion that is CPK secondary pricing.

Quoted you over here as this is a subject that could generate some discussion and we don’t need it shitting up the other thread.

I understand that it's complicated. And I have no problems myself paying significantly extra when knives that ran a while ago (more than a couple of months ?) are priced much higher than new.

But when a knife is being sold for >30% more than new, and ran 2 weeks ago and will run again this week, I call that flipping. I'd rather see CPK make that additional profit.

[ / rant_off ]

I only posted information, everybody can do with it as (s)he pleases.
 
I understand that it's complicated. And I have no problems myself paying significantly extra when knives that ran a while ago (more than a couple of months ?) are priced much higher than new.

But when a knife is being sold for >30% more than new, and ran 2 weeks ago and will run again this week, I call that flipping. I'd rather see CPK make that additional profit.

[ / rant_off ]

I only posted information, everybody can do with it as (s)he pleases.
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I’ve installed a bunch of generators. Usually commercial and industrial so these are big generators but I’ve also done some residential units. These are typically Ng because I work in the city and suburbs. The only people that regret the decision are the ones that don’t get a maintenance plan. Two or three years down the road when it fails to start when needed they get all bent out of shape. If you get one make sure you know when it is set to exercise and keep an eye on it to make sure it starts quickly and easily.
There is not much to the maintenance side and a homeowner with good mechanical skills can learn everything needed to maintain the unit. So that bit is up to you. Outside of that people are always very happy they installed one. The money is worth it once or twice a year when you can look down upon the peons who don’t have one.
Just get it done by a professional.
Thanks, Matt. Good advice.
 
Grenock Grenock warging into ferider ferider to hold the door while flippers attempt to swarm the exchange

Quiet now, I have a meeting in a couple of min.

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I've been pretty busy these last few weeks. I've been trying to grow a sick mustache and I haven't been around the forum as much as I would like. Are we developing a problem with flippers?
Maybe, but it’s your fault. You make best in class knives, sell them for less than they are worth and can’t make enough to meet demand. The fix is easy though, and completely within your control. Make less gooder knives, gouge us on the prices, and outsource the production to China to outpace demand. Then everyone can be happy.
 
Maybe, but it’s your fault. You make best in class knives, sell them for less than they are worth and can’t make enough to meet demand. The fix is easy though, and completely within your control. Make less gooder knives, gouge us on the prices, and outsource the production to China to outpace demand. Then everyone can be happy.
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I've been pretty busy these last few weeks. I've been trying to grow a sick mustache and I haven't been around the forum as much as I would like. Are we developing a problem with flippers?

Not really, unless you plug in the numbers and the variables and then this does not equate: e^(iπ) + 1 = 0
 
Maybe, but it’s your fault. You make best in class knives, sell them for less than they are worth and can’t make enough to meet demand. The fix is easy though, and completely within your control. Make less gooder knives, gouge us on the prices, and outsource the production to China to outpace demand. Then everyone can be happy.

Squeeze me Zirt, but the other company which shall remain nameless in here per Boss's request has already tried 2/3rd of your suggestions and barring a final move to the PRC (apparently TX was their last destination which in my estimation is close enough :p) they still have a trail of p*ssed off folks blazing!
 
Squeeze me Zirt, but the other company which shall remain nameless in here per Boss's request has already tried 2/3rd of your suggestions and barring a final move to the PRC (apparently TX was their last destination which in my estimation is close enough :p) they still have a trail of p*ssed off folks blazing!
Nathan knows I won’t talk about that Guy. To me, he does not exist, kinda like his knives.
 
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