Random Thought Thread

toker said:
I don't know anything about the accuracies of LEO shows, but it always drives me crazy when people rack the slide of a gun to emphasize how serious they are.
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There’ve been shows/movies where they cock the hammer on a Glock. Now you KNOW they’re being super serious 😂😂😂

Oh, and hunting a dangerous target (animal, person, monster/alien, whatever), and then only when they finally have the target in sight, try to quietly load a round in the chamber, to avoid alerting the target.

So… you’re after something that can and will kill you, and you wait until you’re in sight, before loading your firearm? Sure. Makes sense 🙄
 
bluemax_1 said:
There’ve been shows/movies where they cock the hammer on a Glock. Now you KNOW they’re being super serious 😂😂😂

Oh, and hunting a dangerous target (animal, person, monster/alien, whatever), and then only when they finally have the target in sight, try to quietly load a round in the chamber, to avoid alerting the target.

So… you’re after something that can and will kill you, and you wait until you’re in sight, before loading your firearm? Sure. Makes sense 🙄
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that always bugs me. the ''racking of the slide'' to make the cool noise so you KNOW they mean business now.

sometimes it happens after the guy with a gun has been pointing it at someone for a few minutes watching them beg for their life.

oh NOW you should be afraid. not before when I didn't have a round chambered up. NOW THOUGH. Now you should because I just made the klickey clacky noisy thingy habben.

NOOOOOW.....
 
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Blues said:
I love a good LE show, real or fictional,...but I can't bear most of the b.s. that is so far from the mark...so I often lose interest and move on.

A couple of our groups were on "Cops" back in the day. In fact one or two of the guys in the image were involved.

Loved "The Wire", (because it was very close in ways to my experience working wires, and narcotics, and also a lot of the crazy shit involved.)
Also liked the Brit show "Prime Suspect" and a couple of recent Brit shows with Martin Freeman.

I'm pretty critical of shows in general. I like a dose of reality with what they feed us.
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I see. I’m watching The Wire for the first time now, which probably sparked my question.
 
Mendoman said:
I see. I’m watching The Wire for the first time now, which probably sparked my question.
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I envy you. I've watched it two or three times over the years. It doesn't disappoint.

Season 2 was the weakest season, from my point of view. But if you can stick with it, I think you'll find it worth the effort. There are some quite memorable characters...on both sides of the law.

Idris Elba was great as "Stringer" Bell. Michael K. Williams as "Omar". Andre Royo as "Bubbles". Wendell Pierce as "Bunk". And that's just a start.
The corner boys, the kids in season 4 and 5...so much good stuff.

Watching the evolution of Lester, McNulty, Herc, and the other cops...the burnout and the shortcuts...it has it all. For me it's like "Band of Brothers". Quintessential TV from the days when HBO brought it...as with The Sopranos, The Pacific, etc.

ETA:

Like any profession, it has a lot of nuance. For example, and I've seen this in some shows...when you work UC, as I did, primarily early in my career, it's easy to have something akin to the Stockholm Syndrome where you feel closer to the guys you're infiltrating than the guys you work with, or who are watching your back. And you actually feel guilty when you go to trial as if you betrayed them, despite knowing you did what was right.

Thing go from black and white to shades of gray...but you can never forget which side you are on.

I've known some cops / agents who crossed that line. I've arrested, testified at court and sent one to prison for many years. The others were someone else's problem to deal with.

Sorry if this was a bit more than your mention of the show called for.
 
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Blues said:
I envy you. I've watched it two or three times over the years. It doesn't disappoint.

Season 2 was the weakest season, from my point of view. But if you can stick with it, I think you'll find it worth the effort. There are some quite memorable characters...on both sides of the law.

Idris Elba was great as "Stringer" Bell. Michael K. Williams as "Omar". Andre Royo as "Bubbles". Wendell Pierce as "Bunk". And that's just a start.
The corner boys, the kids in season 4 and 5...so much good stuff.

Watching the evolution of Lester, McNulty, Herc, and the other cops...the burnout and the shortcuts...it has it all. For me it's like "Band of Brothers". Quintessential TV from the days when HBO brought it...as with The Sopranos, The Pacific, etc.

ETA:

Like any profession, it has a lot of nuance. For example, and I've seen this in some shows...when you work UC, as I did, primarily early in my career, it's easy to have something akin to the Stockholm Syndrome where you feel closer to the guys you're infiltrating than the guys you work with, or who are watching your back. And you actually feel guilty when you go to trial as if you betrayed them, despite knowing you did what was right.

Thing go from black and white to shades of gray...but you can never forget which side you are on.

I've known some cops / agents who crossed that line. I've arrested, testified at court and sent one to prison for many years. The others were someone else's problem to deal with.

Sorry if this was a bit more than your mention of the show called for.
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It was an excellent series. I avoided it for a while since I suspected that it was over-hyped. Nope. The hype was real.
 
Blues said:
I envy you. I've watched it two or three times over the years. It doesn't disappoint.

Season 2 was the weakest season, from my point of view. But if you can stick with it, I think you'll find it worth the effort. There are some quite memorable characters...on both sides of the law.

Idris Elba was great as "Stringer" Bell. Michael K. Williams as "Omar". Andre Royo as "Bubbles". Wendell Pierce as "Bunk". And that's just a start.
The corner boys, the kids in season 4 and 5...so much good stuff.

Watching the evolution of Lester, McNulty, Herc, and the other cops...the burnout and the shortcuts...it has it all. For me it's like "Band of Brothers". Quintessential TV from the days when HBO brought it...as with The Sopranos, The Pacific, etc.
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There was a girl I used to know playing a Ukrainian call girl in one of the episodes. I haven’t been in touch with her in 20 years or so. I didn’t know anything about her being in it. Then I saw her. I called my wife into the room to see. And she was as surprised as I was. I’m enjoying the show so far.
 
Blues said:
I envy you. I've watched it two or three times over the years. It doesn't disappoint.

Season 2 was the weakest season, from my point of view. But if you can stick with it, I think you'll find it worth the effort. There are some quite memorable characters...on both sides of the law.

Idris Elba was great as "Stringer" Bell. Michael K. Williams as "Omar". Andre Royo as "Bubbles". Wendell Pierce as "Bunk". And that's just a start.
The corner boys, the kids in season 4 and 5...so much good stuff.

Watching the evolution of Lester, McNulty, Herc, and the other cops...the burnout and the shortcuts...it has it all. For me it's like "Band of Brothers". Quintessential TV from the days when HBO brought it...as with The Sopranos, The Pacific, etc.

ETA:

Like any profession, it has a lot of nuance. For example, and I've seen this in some shows...when you work UC, as I did, primarily early in my career, it's easy to have something akin to the Stockholm Syndrome where you feel closer to the guys you're infiltrating than the guys you work with, or who are watching your back. And you actually feel guilty when you go to trial as if you betrayed them, despite knowing you did what was right.

Thing go from black and white to shades of gray...but you can never forget which side you are on.

I've known some cops / agents who crossed that line. I've arrested, testified at court and sent one to prison for many years. The others were someone else's problem to deal with.

Sorry if this was a bit more than your mention of the show called for.
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Interesting! Thanks for the insight. It not more than was called for. I appreciate the perspective.
 
Mendoman said:
There was a girl I used to know playing a Ukrainian call girl in one of the episodes. I haven’t been in touch with her in 20 years or so. I didn’t know anything about her being in it. Then I saw her. I called my wife into the room to see. And she was as surprised as I was. I’m enjoying the show so far.
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I've raided brothels...and once had an informant that was a stripper.

Here be dragons...LOL.
 
Murphjd25 said:
Who carries without one in the pipe? Now we are asking the real questions….
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It's a thing with some. I don't recommend it. (I suppose it might save your ass if someone took your gun away but didn't know how to charge it.)

The practice of carrying in Condition 3, or magazine inserted without a round in the chamber, is also known as "Israeli carry" for its popularity in the Jewish State. Israeli carry is taught as the handgun standard in both the Israel Defense Forces and Israel Police.
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I don't know if this has changed as I'm no longer in the game and don't keep up as much as I once did.
 
Blues said:
It's a thing with some. I don't recommend it. (I suppose it might save your ass if someone took your gun away but didn't know how to charge it.)



I don't know if this has changed as I'm no longer in the game and don't keep up as much as I once did.
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I believe it’s still standard in the IDF, because of the whole mandatory service, combined with different handguns being fielded by different groups. They just felt it was safer.

I don’t advocate it either, especially for regular folks. The chances of ever needing a firearm for self defense are still pretty low, for the average person who isn’t involved in criminal activity, but if you ever need it, you need it now.

There have been more than a few videos posted online, of real incidents where the victim was shot by the bad guy, while trying to chamber a round in the pistol they were carrying in this manner.
 
Jabrni said:
I’ll be honest, I do. I know it’s not advised, and the split second difference could save a life, but I still don’t. If I’m going somewhere I know is a bad area, I’ll fill the pipe. Maybe one day I’ll get comfortable…
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What do you carry if you don't mind me asking? I don't pass judgment...as you have clearly given the matter thought.

But my recommendation would be to get used to carrying with your firearm ready to go.

I've been appendix carrying Glocks since the 80's and still have my equipment. If your fear is because of children in the home or such, I can understand taking additional precautions. But on the street...
 
Blues said:
What do you carry if you don't mind me asking? I don't pass judgment...as you have clearly given the matter thought.

But my recommendation would be to get used to carrying with your firearm ready to go.

I've been appendix carrying Glocks since the 80's and still have my equipment. If your fear is because of children in the home or such, I can understand taking additional precautions. But on the street...
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I don’t mind at all - I carry either a G19 or G43 and have for the last 12 years. Proficient with both and appendix carry. I believe my reasons are
1) I have kids (but my carry pistols are always either up high or in a safe)
2) I fondle a lot...
3) don’t want to castrate myself
4) extra careful
I’m super cautious, I rarely ever chamber, but always drop the mag/check chamber before anything else. If I chamber, I always pull my kydex out of my pants before holstering. I believe if I started with one in the chamber, I would probably continue. Just haven’t gotten there yet.
 
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