Random Thought Thread

#4 buckshot is all you need for HD. Powerful, yet wont blow through a wall, "potentially" non-lethal, but certainly debilitating. Most of all, precision aiming not required.
That is not at all a universally held point of view or recommendation.

There is ample evidence available online regarding this, so I don't intend to debate or beat the matter to death here.
 
Just noticed that my "feedback" score is back!!! 🥳

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My +feedback # should be up to around 175 now but not going to bother to try to update it. I'm just happy it's back!

It's accessible by clicking on your profile drop down menu & I'm also seeing it under the avatar for sellers in The Exchange now too! 👏 👏 👏

See the notice & discussion about it here: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/feedback-should-be-working-again.2017113/
 
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I miss x-c skiing. I used to be in the mountains most weekends when there was snow...whether in upstate NY, NH, VT or Maine.

Been too long. (I'd probably kill myself now if I tried to ski the hiking trails in the Adirondacks like I used to...unless I stuck to the lakes. LOL.)
The 'Daks have some pretty remote, steep terrain. Such a gem in the CONUS! Sounds like wonderful memories E.

Saturday morning alpine start, breaking trail to lap 4000' vert, poaching freshies at an unopened area in Smugglers Notch ski area. The prize was blissful early season 24-36" of surprisingly low density pow.

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That is not at all a universally held point of view or recommendation.

There is ample evidence available online regarding this, so I don't intend to debate or beat the matter to death here.
Oh, I never said it was some sort of gold standard, just personal opinion given the variables of the scenario (ie. walls, target acquisition in the dark etc).
 
I don’t think that was one of her house design criteria, I forgot to tell her :)

Currently have “Boar Busters” in my home magazines… might make big holes in a wall, but hopefully not go too far afterwards. Time will tell, I guess, I’m not allowed to test :)
Those look like a bonded soft point. If the idea is TO punch through multiple walls while holding together, you’re on the right track. It looks like a decent choice for a barrier blind round.

.308 has a LOT of energy, and the bullets have ~3x the mass that 5.56 does, which basically means just about any of them will easily punch through multiple layers of drywall.

A bonded soft point .308 will also punch right through joists and studs while retaining lethal energy (hence making them good options for barrier blind ammo).

I don’t think there’s a single commercial .308 round that won’t punch through regular interior walls.

Of the available options though; Sierra’s TMK (Tipped Matchking) offerings in 5.56 or .308 are absolutely devastating on soft tissue.

You can find YT videos of testing on ballistics gelatin. Almost no neck to the channel. Impact immediately slams the polymer tip back into the bullet, which initiates the catastrophic disintegration of the bullet, resulting in a particularly nasty channel. The effects of the .308 variant are an exaggerated version of the 5.56.

That action of the polymer tip initiating destruction of the bullet, also means it’s sub-optimal as a barrier blind round, but either the 5.56 or .308 will STILL punch through drywall and remain lethal. They just won’t punch through as many layers of drywall while remaining lethal, as a bonded soft point might.

FWIW, my preference for HD is a bunch of 5.56 77gr TMK, followed by RA556B (Winchester’s 64gr bonded soft point. Hard to obtain for regular folks). I figure if anything forces the use of this option, and the initial offerings of TMK weren’t enough, I’ll want some barrier blind capabilities (same reason the Benelli M4 has FliteControl #1 in front, with Brenneke slugs at the end of the tube, and more Brenneke slugs in the side saddle).
 
Exactly why I would use #4 buck. Not looking to kill anyone, just stop them.

It doesn't matter what your intent is.

Legally speaking, the use of any firearm (regardless of the caliber or shot load) is considered the use of "deadly force."

Use it at your own risk. 🤷‍♂️

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Generally speaking, the use of deadly force for "self defense" is only legally justifiable when you are in fear of "death or great bodily injury" from an attacker.

You may not need to retreat if you live in a "castle doctrine" state but you may still have to justify the use of deadly force in certain states.

So, read & understand the law applicable in your state.
 
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