Random Thought Thread

The SARS-Cov2 virus behaves very similarly to the original SARS virus, and the SARS virus was shown to be able to infect felines and rodents.

This however, is something I don't recall SARS doing:
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong...oronavirus-final-testing-hong-kong-dogs-blood

So yes, it seems it's possible for pets to get it. No confirmation yet on whether these particular species can transmit it back to humans. Those taking their dogs out for a walk in public areas can make their own decisions.

Don't know if anyone was aware, but during the lockdown in parts of China, they were executing pets due to concerns about them spreading the virus.

Apparently, US veterinarians have already encountered housecats with respiratory illness, whose owners are Covid-19 positive. No word on how the vets and assistants are doing.
 
Unlike SARS and MERS, this sneaky little bastard sticks around inside the host without immediate signs of infection but once it reaches SARS like symptoms, the patient quickly goes into cardiac arrest resulting in death.

I see many people on facebook comparing covid19 to the common flu and THIS is the biggest difference: the asymtomatic infectious period of covid19 is multitudes longer than the common flu (and SARS/MERS/etc.), which has contributed to its worldwide spread.

Things are fairly okay in Canada right now but the numbers in the US scare me. I hope you good folks down there are staying safe!
 
When a new major pandemic strikes, short of an effective vaccine, there are really no other magic bullets to combat such pandemic. As of it seems that there are 3 distinctly different methods which are being applied by different countries, so from a scientific stance it would be interesting to study and find out as to which one proves to be the most effective even though there will be many gray lines and then cross-correlating between these strategies:

- Shutdown and extreme social distancing which in some countries such as China and India with their huge populations, they have taken very extreme and draconian measures to combat this Covid-19 in such way.

- Herd immunity: For instance Sweden is pursuing this method. While their government has strongly encouraged the elderly to stay in shelter, their scientists believe that if about 60% of their population, mostly the younger and healthy Swedes contract and transmit such a virus which while highly contagious, its asymptomatic nature in some or many can be effective used against it via herd immunity.

- Extreme proactive measures: in this instance we can name Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea as the leaders of this method because without taking draconian measures they did very quickly jump ahead of the virus by identifying potential carriers; basically all those who had come in contact with anyone from Hubei as soon as the pandemic broke out, whether directly or indirectly, for the purpose of strict quarantining and treatment.

Of course lines get frequently crossed between these three methods but the idea is that one method becomes the prime strategy. I can not speak to the effectiveness of each method as it correlates to each individual country but I just can not see as to how the second or the third methods could be implemented here in the U.S. We are just too large and our population way too diverse culturally to have effectively combated Covid-19 via herd immunity and/or extreme proactivity for which we simply neither have the resources nor the infrastructure. Initially Great Britain tried to follow the Swedish model but quickly learned that because their nationals also come from many other countries, such strategy would've proven to be more fatal on many lives. Incidentally, even the Swedes may have to abandon the herd immunity strategy if their own transmission, infection and death rates over burden their infrastructure.
 
I think Sweden dialed back that plan. Edit: NEVER MIND. I think Sweden is still going forwards with it.

As for all the other controls taken around the globe in other counties, those controls are only effective until flights resume - then the virus will just be reintroduced to countries that don't exhibit herd immunity.

The short term solution is to do nothing and let people die. As horrible as that sounds, it's the fastest route to herd immunity. Waiting for a vaccine is impractical - it takes 6-12 months to manufacture one and that's if you already have an approved vaccine to manufacture. I think everyone will have to accept that they will contract this at one point or another. All these measures right now is to help prevent overloading an already overloaded health system.

I feel very fortunate as a Canadian that we have universal healthcare. What is the plan for Americans who cannot afford health care?
 
ON A DIFFERENT NOTE: I already have a HDFK and a FK2. Is there too much overlap to add a UF to the collection?

A huge part of me wants a true dagger and is why I'm keeping my eye out for a Shiv. The UF may be too........practical :D

Get a UF if you get a chance, def get one because there will be no more UFs. Shivs are going for way, way more than what they were originally priced for. This in and of itself is not a huge deal to be butt-hurt about because A: Nathan had them underpriced because when he was making them, they were built for another purpose (military guys, hence the more affordable pricing) and B: Nathan is not a price gouger, it just doesn't exist in his DNA.

Shivs are now exchanging at or over 1K and even then, you will have to know a guy who knows a guy ;) Are they worth it? I am no judge of that as beauty and value is in the eye of the beholder but I would not pay anywhere close to 1K for a Shiv, maybe because I got lucky to have a friend who scored one for me years ago plus I have had enough of them to go through my hands to decide that I only need ONE. Again my personal opinion which ought to count for ZIP.

Daggers? Fuhgettaboutit. Some of the newer folks don't know that apart from the special project 14" Dagger which was posted pictorially a few days ago, there are currently 6 that I know of, two of which belong to Jo & Nathan. The other 4, only one changed hands from the original owner, that I know of and the new owner who I know of, is not a seller for all the tea in China! Nathan had indicated in the past that there will be an Integral Dagger but has "warned" that will be a very limited pattern because of it's "high" price tag. He had said price will be in line with having a crown done at a dentist and for this reason, I have put a mental marker to save $1200-$1500ish but I don't know who Nathan's dentist is and what he charges! :confused:

ETA: I think that there are, or were, 2 Daggers in A2 which Nathan was planning on selling and he did mention a Dagger among the list of what he was going to take to Blade 2020.
 
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ON A DIFFERENT NOTE: I already have a HDFK and a FK2. Is there too much overlap to add a UF to the collection?

A huge part of me wants a true dagger and is why I'm keeping my eye out for a Shiv. The UF may be too........practical :D
No overlap at all. Completely different beast. Honestly I have very little practical use for my UF but I love it. Ergonomics are amazing. Truly designed as a "fighting" knife.
 
Yeah, it sounds like the UF might be the best compromise at this point. I saw someone list a Shiv at $1400 but that's way too rich for me - especially if the Integral Dagger will go for that pricepoint.

Do you use your Shiv? I know I wouldn't unless SHTF lol I guess I would probably get more use out of a UF, which adds value to it. I normally use all my knives but I have to admit I have a brand new HDFK with AECM that I gently fawn over lol
 
I think the CPK website is like that too. For some reason, the website gets blocked at work but Bladeforums doesn't so maybe someone else can help check :)

Nathan & Jo are not that active on their website. Per info on the www.carothersknives.com, the last update was on 1/30/2019. There is a photo or two of Jo's "Queen Dagger" on their site. If you search Nathan's WIP threads in the maker's section this site, you will come across some of his writings pertaining to his Daggers.
 
I think carrying any knife around just in case you have to stab with it counts as using, even if you don't actually stab. The UF carries very well and is a somewhat practical edc option if you like your knife to be a weapon. I believe the UF had “open holes in masonry walls” as a design requirement, like the Shiv.
I think if you have a UF you don't need a Shiv. But you certainly need at least one of these knives.
 
When a new major pandemic strikes, short of an effective vaccine, there are really no other magic bullets to combat such pandemic. As of it seems that there are 3 distinctly different methods which are being applied by different countries, so from a scientific stance it would be interesting to study and find out as to which one proves to be the most effective even though there will be many gray lines and then cross-correlating between these strategies:

- Shutdown and extreme social distancing which in some countries such as China and India with their huge populations, they have taken very extreme and draconian measures to combat this Covid-19 in such way.

- Herd immunity: For instance Sweden is pursuing this method. While their government has strongly encouraged the elderly to stay in shelter, their scientists believe that if about 60% of their population, mostly the younger and healthy Swedes contract and transmit such a virus which while highly contagious, its asymptomatic nature in some or many can be effective used against it via herd immunity.

- Extreme proactive measures: in this instance we can name Singapore, Taiwan and South Korea as the leaders of this method because without taking draconian measures they did very quickly jump ahead of the virus by identifying potential carriers; basically all those who had come in contact with anyone from Hubei as soon as the pandemic broke out, whether directly or indirectly, for the purpose of strict quarantining and treatment.

Of course lines get frequently crossed between these three methods but the idea is that one method becomes the prime strategy. I can not speak to the effectiveness of each method as it correlates to each individual country but I just can not see as to how the second or the third methods could be implemented here in the U.S. We are just too large and our population way too diverse culturally to have effectively combated Covid-19 via herd immunity and/or extreme proactivity for which we simply neither have the resources nor the infrastructure. Initially Great Britain tried to follow the Swedish model but quickly learned that because their nationals also come from many other countries, such strategy would've proven to be more fatal on many lives. Incidentally, even the Swedes may have to abandon the herd immunity strategy if their own transmission, infection and death rates over burden their infrastructure.
There are a few issues with option #2.

1) it's a novel virus very similar to SARS, but as yet, with quite a few unknowns. One of these is the disturbing news of patients who've recovered and survived, but with damage (some possibly permanent) to various vitals like the lungs, kidneys, liver, heart and testicles. Yes, original SARS had the ability to leave some male survivors sterile. It seems there may be a possibility with SARS-Cov2 as well.

2) lasting immunity. We don't know how long the immunity lasts after recovering from this.

Fairly early in the pandemic (Feb) a Japanese woman was hospitalized, sick and testing positive for the SARS-Cov2 virus. She was treated, recovered, then released after finally testing negative on 2 consecutive days. About a week later, she was back in the hospital sick, and once again tested positive for SARS-Cov2.

Was this genuinely a reinfection? A relapse? An error due to false negatives from tests with a low confidence rate? We don't know. What we do know is that unlike some viruses, where after recovery, a healthy person will have permanent immunity, the 4 common hCoVs (human Coronaviruses) that cause about 15% of common colds, do not confer permanent immunity. The immunity only lasts for a few months to about 3 years.

3) letting it burn through as quickly as possible vs flattening the curve: as I've already posted before, with a highly contagious novel virus like this, it spreads like wildfire and can easily overwhelm not just the healthcare system, but every other aspect of our society as well, resulting in the cascading collapse, which results in significantly more damage.

Those who were paying attention might have noticed that early on, Trump appeared to be in the camp to just let it burn to preserve the economy. If you're curious as to what changed his mind (and the UK's, who held out for the 'let it burn' option a little longer than we did, before changing tracks) and where the "2.2 million deaths in the US" came from, here's one of the papers that Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx used to change his mind.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/im...-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf
 
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