Random Thought Thread

It does put the actual danger from the sort of things that people are fearful of like mass shooting into perspective. The things people are scared of vs the things that are actually a real problem. you have people who are afraid to send their children to school because they're afraid of mass shootings. I'm not trying to diminish the validity of their fears, but when you figure you could add all the mass school shootings together since the formation of the school system in the United States they wouldn't equal one day of death from this virus but it's frequently these same people you see continuing to gather and treating this virus like it's not something to be afraid of. People get concerned about the wrong stuff. IMO.
Goes back to the post you made about people not stopping to wonder why they believe something, or think a certain way.

Some people act on logic and rationale. They take in the available data, then make a determination. It seems a great number don't do that. They latch onto a particular position and will obstinately hold to that position, to the point of discounting or even wilfully ignoring any contradictory data.

The 'gun violence/mass shooting' issue you brought up is one such example. The most vehemently antigun people I've ever made the mistake of discussing the topic with, will continue to use the same tired misinformation, even after I tell them that they can pull out their phones right there, and exactly what terms to search for/websites to go to, to prove that what they thought is incorrect. Will they do that? Nope.

Right now, I'm seeing it with the subsections of the population who are ignoring the social distancing guidelines. Not just the, "I'm not gonna get it" types. There are the, "This quarantine/shutdown business is absolute BS. The harm to the economy is way worse than the virus. We should just restart all businesses and just let it ride. 99.7% of the population is going to survive."

I try to explain that once this spreads to the point that the healthcare system is overwhelmed, the death toll swells from not just the 1-5% we're seeing, but will begin to include the 15-20% who need medical treatment to make it through.

Then as the healthcare system is completely overwhelmed, the death toll also adds people with non-Covid-19 related issues that are severe enough to need medical attention. Heart attacks, accidents, appendicitis, other respiratory distress, infections... when those people can't get the necessary treatment in time because the healthcare system is overwhelmed, they end up adding to the death toll too.

And as this spreads even more, more HCW, LEO and FD will be infected. Fewer HCW in an already overwhelmed system = more fatalities. A ravaged fire department that can't respond to 911 calls? A ravaged PD that can't handle the increase in crime?

And with a novel pathogen that no one has a built-in immunity to, this will infect the majority of people who are exposed to it.

When the death toll both direct and indirect is in the millions, and millions of people are all sick (it takes longer to recover than to die) and a whole lot of people who aren't sick are staying home for fear of getting sick, the economy crashes anyway, but now we're significantly worse off, with many more dead.

And after explaining cascading consequences, and how the economy is going to take a severe blow no matter what, the "the damage to the economy is worse than the disease" folks, still stick to their position.

"You can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into".
 
Watch the Heroes of the Pandumbic courtesy of those ultra-lefty comedians of the Daily Show. Tragically really really funny stuff. I will not post a link to it out of respect to CPK/Nathan/Jo and those of you who do not share my views, in order to keep this place as apolitical as possible because I got a bit political in the Covid-19 thread which was locked up. With sincere apologies to DeLorein our Island hippie CPK-Bro, for that transgression ;)
 
A little red on yeller action yesterday...

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A little red on yeller action yesterday...

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Make way for that bad boy! You know what they say about red touching yellow. I nearly pooped myself when I saw one in the middle of a water park in Orlando FLA. It crawled under the cement sidewalk a foot away for my bare feet. I'm just glad they are not pit vipers because a snake lover I know said that pit vipers detect fingers and toes as nice little warm blooded meals.
 
@Gravelface ,
Thank you for the important work you do! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Regarding your question "what's it going to take for folks to stop the insanity?" – I think the answer is they might wake up when someone close to them dies from the virus. Then they will probably shift the blame elsewhere, and say the government needs to do more (rather than admitting they were at fault for not taking personal responsibility to help stop spreading the virus). :rolleyes:
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Selling my 3V satin finished UF with black micarta scales and a black combat master sheath. I whole heartedly didn’t want to move this but with a 3 week-old newborn and being furloughed until further notice, shit happens I guess. $600 net to me shipped via USPS priority flat rate. Also selling my completely unused BC prototype with terotuf, custom leather sheath, and a THICK kydex sheath. $700 net to me shipped. I’ll get pics of it up tonight.
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Hey bud, rules have changed some time ago - no more 'net to me'...:

Sellers/Selling -
  1. Be 100% sure that you want to sell the item, have it in your possession and clearly list the TOTAL selling price.
    • There is no "testing the waters" or "gauge buyer interest".
    • "Net to me" needs to be figured into your LISTED PRICE
    • Insurance is the responsibility of the SELLER not the Buyer. This is for your protection.
    • Paypal "friends & family" is STRONGLY DISCOURAGED. This is for your protection.
 
So I’m watching very heavy handed police crackdown in places like the black townships (shanty towns really) in South Africa and also in India, when enforcing their COVID-19 stay in shelter laws. I can’t help not to laugh (I already know that it’s very wrong) that their police still beat these curfew breakers up after they make these poor sods do squats, pushups (one was doing knuckle style on asphalt!) burpees and Superman crunches. Man, it’s so so so rough in some places!
I have seen a couple of those Videos on (theync.co_) site. It seems police in that country look for any excuse to beat people on a normal day nevermind a pandemic. BTW did you see the one where the police made 3 guys do the log roll down a filthy sewage fill gutter. Now they will have to treat them for some other diseases. Nice job! Warning! (theync.co_) is a very graphic uncensored site that shows the worst of humanity in real time. It was one of the first sites to leak Covid19 info out to the world months ago But Fair Warning! once you visit it you cant unsee this stuff.
 
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Hey bud, rules have changed some time ago - no more 'net to me'...:

Sellers/Selling -
  1. Be 100% sure that you want to sell the item, have it in your possession and clearly list the TOTAL selling price.
    • There is no "testing the waters" or "gauge buyer interest".
    • "Net to me" needs to be figured into your LISTED PRICE
    • Insurance is the responsibility of the SELLER not the Buyer. This is for your protection.
    • Paypal "friends & family" is STRONGLY DISCOURAGED. This is for your protection.

thanks.
 
I was under the impression that there were no accurate tests for humans...

How do they have a tiger test? I call bullshit.

Timmy lad! Yer really out there fella, ain’t ya?

Coronaviruses are nothing new! The common cold is a corona virus! The problem with this new CoronaVirus aka Covid-19 is that when an infected person can not produce enough antibodies to fight it off, it will eventually grow by using the host’s protein cells inside the host’s respiratory system (lungs) which creates severe and acute respiratory issues like SARS which was viciously deadly. Unlike SARS and MERS, this sneaky little bastard sticks around inside the host without immediate signs of infection but once it reaches SARS like symptoms, the patient quickly goes into cardiac arrest resulting in death.

The reported tiger was showing acute respiratory issues so it got tested. The test kits exist but there are not enough of them to test as many people as the experts would like.
 
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