Ranking of Steels in Categories based on Edge Retention cutting 5/8" rope

I'd loan you mine for testing purposes if you don't keep yours. I would strongly recommend keeping it though. It is a great steel for the military platform IMO.

Nice to see you cranking out some tests. I pre-orderd a 0770 CF because of your review and testing (from KW too)
 
nccole said:
I'd loan you mine for testing purposes if you don't keep yours. I would strongly recommend keeping it though. It is a great steel for the military platform IMO.

Nice to see you cranking out some tests. I pre-orderd a 0770 CF because of your review and testing (from KW too)
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It's a money thing.... :D

I would get a lot more for it NIB....

That 0770CF is one nice knife I tell you... :thumbup:
 
Just ended up using my CruWear Millie today at a BBQ/pool party. Ended up having to cut some cheese for cheeseburgers on top of the BBQ and no visible edge damage and still factory sharp. This is one tough steel/knife! Hopefully I'll get to put it through some yardwork later this week!
 
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Invective said:
Just ended up using my CruWear Millie today at a BBQ/pool party. Ended up having to cut some cheese for cheeseburgers on top of the BBQ and no visible edge damage and still factory sharp. This is one tough steel/knife! Hopefully I'll get to put it through some yardwork later this week!
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Mailing your Para 2 back tomorrow. :)
 
I have been tossing around the idea of using some Cru-Wear for some BushCraft and hunting knives. Really did not expect that kind of performance from it.
I guess I will have to take the plunge and try some now.
 
Big Chris said:
I have been tossing around the idea of using some Cru-Wear for some BushCraft and hunting knives. Really did not expect that kind of performance from it.
I guess I will have to take the plunge and try some now.
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It did fine, but it's at 63 and .005" behind the edge. :D
 
The .005" behind the edge is a little thin perhaps for my uses and my customers, but the 63 Rc I can handle.
I have not done anything harder than some heavy wood carving with my Z Wear test knife that is about .006" behind the edge, but so far it is holding up great.
I have had other steels that were thicker behind the edge and would still wrinkle, roll, or chip during some heavy wood carving.
 
Big Chris said:
The .005" behind the edge is a little thin perhaps for my uses and my customers, but the 63 Rc I can handle.
I have not done anything harder than some heavy wood carving with my Z Wear test knife that is about .006" behind the edge, but so far it is holding up great.
I have had other steels that were thicker behind the edge and would still wrinkle, roll, or chip during some heavy wood carving.
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I think around .010" to .015" it could take a lot. :)
 
Ankerson said:
Added S110V Manix 2 Regrind.
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Tired of doing the 6000 grit edges, Jim? You're doing a lot more cutting with those coarse edges!! ;) A 50% gain in edge retention from bringing that Manix from what, 0.015" down to 0.005"?
 
Ankerson said:
I think around .010" to .015" it could take a lot. :)
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Given that stiffness increases cubically proportional to thickness, those edges should be ~8X more resistant to rolling, but only AT that thickness. If the hardness and edge angle are the same, the apex will behave the same...
 
chiral.grolim said:
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Tired of doing the 6000 grit edges, Jim? You're doing a lot more cutting with those coarse edges!! ;) A 50% gain in edge retention from bringing that Manix from what, 0.015" down to 0.005"?
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From .030" to .005"...

Yeah, no more polished edges. :)
 
chiral.grolim said:
Given that stiffness increases cubically proportional to thickness, those edges should be ~8X more resistant to rolling, but only AT that thickness. If the hardness and edge angle are the same, the apex will behave the same...
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More worried about side loading, less precise cutting etc... More room for error. :)

Ham fisted people... LOL
 
Jim, thanks again for doing these tests. Seems that we have some awesome steels these days...and that Manix Regrind info is eye opening from a learning standpoint!

Still learning, each day.

Thanks again!
 
How would you compare the level of sharpness between the two S110V Manix's. Obviously the thinned one out took longer to reach 20 lbs, but it had to have been duller, right?
 
Gunsnknives said:
Jim, thanks again for doing these tests. Seems that we have some awesome steels these days...and that Manix Regrind info is eye opening from a learning standpoint!

Still learning, each day.

Thanks again!
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Yes, blade geometry can make a very large difference. :)

nccole said:
How would you compare the level of sharpness between the two S110V Manix's. Obviously the thinned one out took longer to reach 20 lbs, but it had to have been duller, right?
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Yes, somewhat duller, but would still slice printer paper in the end so it wasn't that bad..

Took about 20 passes on my strop and it was back to slicing phone book paper, checked just to see if the edge would snap back quickly and it did. :thumbup:
 
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Yes, blade geometry can make a very large difference. :)



Yes, somewhat duller, but would still slice printer paper in the end so it wasn't that bad..

Took about 20 passes on my strop and it was back to slicing phone book paper, checked just to see if the edge would snap back quickly and it did. :thumbup:
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That is real impressive. That is the thing that in my unscientific observations that has set S110V apart. It holds that higher level of sharpness for a long time. I want to sharpen steels that lose that level and plateaus at a working edge because I like having that crisp edge for as long as possible. That is why I like Superblue, CRUWEAR, and VG10 even, and S110V blows them all away. Also, its edge stability has surprised and impressed me. Overall, I want more!
 
nccole said:
That is real impressive. That is the thing that in my unscientific observations that has set S110V apart. It holds that higher level of sharpness for a long time. I want to sharpen steels that lose that level and plateaus at a working edge because I like having that crisp edge for as long as possible. That is why I like Superblue, CRUWEAR, and VG10 even, and S110V blows them all away. Also, its edge stability has surprised and impressed me. Overall, I want more!
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It really was impressive for a production knife that was reground, and at 62 RC....

It wasn't what I would call sharp in the end, but you could still cut stuff with it, cardboard etc, it would take one heck of a lot of real world cutting to get it to that point.....

Could have cut a lot more rope as it was still cutting it clean, but I wouldn't want to be the one doing it. LOL

The reason why I stop at 20 LBS, that's not exactly easy cutting....
 
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