Ranking of Steels in Categories based on Edge Retention cutting 5/8" rope

Interesting - thank you! (Results snipped below for easy reference.) S30V really continues to impress, even though it gets very little respect from most people! :thumbup:

Yeah S30V with a nice edge on it will perform no doubt, nice solid steel for EDC use. :)
 
Not too surprised with where CRUWEAR ended up. Thanks for testing it Jim. From my personal somewhat haphazard approach to using my knives, the tougher nature of CRUWEAR is where it shines IMO. I feel like I dull knives not simply by abrasion as Jim's test do a good job of isolating, but from some impact or sideways action that is detrimental to the edge. You guys will just have to take my word on that because I am not letting Jim split cinder blocks with my knife:D
 
Yeah S30V with a nice edge on it will perform no doubt, nice solid steel for EDC use. :)


I totally agree, many makers and user's shy away from it for their own reasons,

...but I find it an exceptional workhorse steel when faced with the rigors of hard use on the job-site or in the woods.





Big Mike
 
Not too surprised with where CRUWEAR ended up. Thanks for testing it Jim. From my personal somewhat haphazard approach to using my knives, the tougher nature of CRUWEAR is where it shines IMO. I feel like I dull knives not simply by abrasion as Jim's test do a good job of isolating, but from some impact or sideways action that is detrimental to the edge. You guys will just have to take my word on that because I am not letting Jim split cinder blocks with my knife:D

I hadn't planned on beating on it either. :D

All packed up sharpened and ready to ship back tomorrow.
 
Jim, thanks for getting Cruwear up. It slotted in about where I thought it would. Pretty close to where Vegas Blade got his results too so somebody is doing things right. I agree that a lot of people forget that S30V has 4% Vanadium which is nothing to look down on. It's a good performing steel.

4V should have near the toughness of Cruwear but almost or the same wear as S30V as it is close to 4% vanadium. a little more Moly and a bit lower carbon. In a good heat treat it should be a good all around knife steel.

Thanks again Jim.

Joe
 
Jim, thanks for getting Cruwear up. It slotted in about where I thought it would. Pretty close to where Vegas Blade got his results too so somebody is doing things right. I agree that a lot of people forget that S30V has 4% Vanadium which is nothing to look down on. It's a good performing steel.

4V should have near the toughness of Cruwear but almost or the same wear as S30V as it is close to 4% vanadium. a little more Moly and a bit lower carbon. In a good heat treat it should be a good all around knife steel.

Thanks again Jim.

Joe

Yeah S30V is no joke with a good HT. :)

CW is a good steel though, I think you are right about 4V, time will tell though.
 
Yeah S30V with a nice edge on it will perform no doubt, nice solid steel for EDC use. :)
It's nice to hear these glowing reports on S30V as I have 3 Benchmades with that steel. :)
I hear Benchmade S30V is heat treated on average to around 59 to 60 Rockwell.
 
Added Z-A11 (Like CPM 10V)

Darrion Sanders Custom - 62.5 RC - .020" behind the edge/.070" spine thickness.
 
Added Z-A11 (Like CPM 10V)

Darrion Sanders Custom - 62.5 RC - .020" behind the edge/.070" spine thickness.

I'm a little surprised it didn't get closer to the modded Manix. Still impressive and more than enough of course.
 
That is edge geometry guys. Knock that thing down under .010" behind the edge and you will see that number of cuts increase.
Just look at how much improvement the Manix made from being thinned down.
 
I'm a little surprised it didn't get closer to the modded Manix. Still impressive and more than enough of course.

It would have if it would have been .010" behind the edge or thinner.

The reground Manix 2 is .015" thinner behind the edge....
 
That is edge geometry guys. Knock that thing down under .010" behind the edge and you will see that number of cuts increase.
Just look at how much improvement the Manix made from being thinned down.

Bingo. Steel, heat treat, and geometry. Geometry cuts. Steel and heat treat merely allow you to optimize the geometry.

But you already knew that. ;)
 
Bingo. Steel, heat treat, and geometry. Geometry cuts. Steel and heat treat merely allow you to optimize the geometry.

But you already knew that. ;)


I was actually more interested in how it would compare to the K390 Mule since they are much closer in geometry. :)
 
That is edge geometry guys. Knock that thing down under .010" behind the edge and you will see that number of cuts increase.
Just look at how much improvement the Manix made from being thinned down.


Chris is right, for example I have tested steels that are in lower categories that out perform others in higher categories due to more efficient blade geometry and edge finish for this type of testing .
 
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