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RCCC Les Robertson
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Incredible how some folks think.You can crow all you want about Loveless Knive's,the fact is they were designed by Bob,built by Bob and his partner and used by countless numbers Worldwide. Tried and tested patterns made to be used.
Will I stop buying Loveless Knive's because Jim Merritt put his hands on them,on the contrary,makes them that much more appetizing to me as Jims work is superlative and of course there is still a fellow working in the Loveless shop besides Jim,his name is Bob.
Just my 2 cents
Dave
http://www.exquisiteknives.com
Will I stop buying Loveless Knive's because Jim Merritt put his hands on them,on the contrary,makes them that much more appetizing to me as Jims work is superlative and of course there is still a fellow working in the Loveless shop besides Jim,his name is Bob.
Just my 2 cents
Dave
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RealDeal said:
What guidance are you giving? All I see is you making worthless comments. Les gives great advice. You on the other hand seem to like to flap your gums and add no real substance with any of your posts. If you are here to be a part of the community, then act like it. If you are here to condescend, then you are not welcome here by me.
By the way, who are you? You come on here like some kind of expert, but you don't have the cajones to give your real name? Without knowing who you are, how are we supposed to take you seriously?
One more try.
Just trying to get you gizze to open up your tiny rigid minds a bit, yes it sets me off that a group of such self proclaimed free thinkers allow a guy like Mr Robertson to be banned, you are so shallow and imaginary that a guy that is for real, lives the collector and purveyor life every day is allowed to be shut out from public view, forced to be covert and creative, you guys are really confussed here. You wont side with a guy that is out for your best interests.
So all that being said,
oh Stevie, take it easy on yourself, the truly dangerous people, being the smartest, are still out and about, they try not to get killed, they dont go to prison, bless the ones that have been taken from us prematurely. Try not to confuse this banter with the rest of us being real people living real lives every day.
As far as the Terz goes, who knows what that might mean, might mean i know he hates that and i am yanking his chain, could be a boyhood name only his brother or a relative would know, maybe a buddy or collegue from the days in south america, WTF do you know, only what you learn here and maybe something you hear at shows, most likely, maybe a pet name we use for him, maybe fuckin nothing at all, point is, you do not know, try not to guess, i sure as hell never did or ever will call him Bob T, whats that like T Rex?
Try not to get to addicted to the drama.
So you Loveless guys, blinded by the $, why not find that newer maker that is on his way, the hidden makers of the truly fine knives that no one hears about, the real users and makers of users knives? Think now, think for yourselves, buy, use, grade, learn, become your own expert, any fool can spend his money and buy dictated collectability and publically agreed upon so called quality and preescalated values. That is where Les, Bob, and few others truly shine, they can help you develop those skillss and that judgement, yes they expect you to buy from them, kinda makes sense doesnt it, pay to play?
Ever hear of Steve Mullin Pack Rivers knives, Sand Point Idaho? Now retired, never terribly famous, excellent value, bomb proof knives, extremely well made, extremely well designed, had this one for a while been a few places with me, glad it survived, a prized possesion, Loveless ya i had them in my hands, dont own one, could care less, tell ya what though, you cant buy this knife from me for 3grand U.S. nor could you trade one of your fancy smancy unused collectable loveless kinves, my mind would not wander when i toughed that knife the way it does when i touch this one, priceless.
If you are not a complete cripple consider making your own collectables and stories.
Not that i would know anything, after all, i dont even know what to call your gods, Bobby and Les to gain YOUR approval, which by now you know means allot to me.:jerkit:
Just trying to get you gizze to open up your tiny rigid minds a bit, yes it sets me off that a group of such self proclaimed free thinkers allow a guy like Mr Robertson to be banned, you are so shallow and imaginary that a guy that is for real, lives the collector and purveyor life every day is allowed to be shut out from public view, forced to be covert and creative, you guys are really confussed here. You wont side with a guy that is out for your best interests.
So all that being said,
oh Stevie, take it easy on yourself, the truly dangerous people, being the smartest, are still out and about, they try not to get killed, they dont go to prison, bless the ones that have been taken from us prematurely. Try not to confuse this banter with the rest of us being real people living real lives every day.
As far as the Terz goes, who knows what that might mean, might mean i know he hates that and i am yanking his chain, could be a boyhood name only his brother or a relative would know, maybe a buddy or collegue from the days in south america, WTF do you know, only what you learn here and maybe something you hear at shows, most likely, maybe a pet name we use for him, maybe fuckin nothing at all, point is, you do not know, try not to guess, i sure as hell never did or ever will call him Bob T, whats that like T Rex?
Try not to get to addicted to the drama.
So you Loveless guys, blinded by the $, why not find that newer maker that is on his way, the hidden makers of the truly fine knives that no one hears about, the real users and makers of users knives? Think now, think for yourselves, buy, use, grade, learn, become your own expert, any fool can spend his money and buy dictated collectability and publically agreed upon so called quality and preescalated values. That is where Les, Bob, and few others truly shine, they can help you develop those skillss and that judgement, yes they expect you to buy from them, kinda makes sense doesnt it, pay to play?
Ever hear of Steve Mullin Pack Rivers knives, Sand Point Idaho? Now retired, never terribly famous, excellent value, bomb proof knives, extremely well made, extremely well designed, had this one for a while been a few places with me, glad it survived, a prized possesion, Loveless ya i had them in my hands, dont own one, could care less, tell ya what though, you cant buy this knife from me for 3grand U.S. nor could you trade one of your fancy smancy unused collectable loveless kinves, my mind would not wander when i toughed that knife the way it does when i touch this one, priceless.
If you are not a complete cripple consider making your own collectables and stories.
Not that i would know anything, after all, i dont even know what to call your gods, Bobby and Les to gain YOUR approval, which by now you know means allot to me.:jerkit:
Pls dont take me seariously Mikey, try to read and comprehend, that is all, means you have to think not accept, will do you good to go through the excercise, if you are capable, thats the trick part of the inet, means you really have to think and consider for yourself, or not, just be lead, as most of the on line generation seems to embrace, sad but true.
Tom Militano
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RealDeal, if you aren't happy here, why not quit posting? I'm with Tom Mayo, nothing in you public profile. Just who are you?
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Hey, nobody mentioned me as a heavy collector. I'm pretty sure of it, I read every post. I'm quite heavy too and I have pics to prove it 
RealDeal, posting a pic 1728 pixels wide is what some call "page widening" because it widens the page and forces those who want to read the text to scroll a lot. I'd really appreciate if you replaced it with a smaller pic, like less than 1280 or 1024 wide.
RealDeal, posting a pic 1728 pixels wide is what some call "page widening" because it widens the page and forces those who want to read the text to scroll a lot. I'd really appreciate if you replaced it with a smaller pic, like less than 1280 or 1024 wide.
i sorry, no more pics for me.
and for the rest that are getting too sensitive and
and in the spirit of good sportsmanship, going down, not a Wood Ghost but a Titanium Ghost.
Stay sharp, think twice, cut deep.
Enjoy the hobby.
And just one more thing.
I am for real, a good few here do actually know me and know of me.
My intention was to generate interesting controversy that you guys dont seem to enjoy around here., fair enough i screwed that up,,,,I am a person that is used to engaging when challenged, you do that well and so do i, so we get side tracked into bitching at each other, typical web time wasting excercise, we write as the mood strikes us.
So for those that i offend, it is not intentional, most of the time, i do not appologize just the same , i mean what i write and write what i mean. you gramar experts, enjoy being arm chair warriors, its safer.
Bottom line, i expect people to stand up for each other, regardless of who it is, not because Les is banned, because he is part of this knife community, just like any knife maker or recognized purveyor, truth be known i dont actually like the guy, i just put up with him , he can kiss my ass any time he wants too. Learn and enjoy all of these guys that dedicate thier lives to knive making and selling, they need us we need them. When they disagree, they can work thier differeneces out as Knife Pros, but we want to hear them all, dont we?
If we all agree with each other no one learns anything, ever.
Going down.
and for the rest that are getting too sensitive and
and in the spirit of good sportsmanship, going down, not a Wood Ghost but a Titanium Ghost.
Stay sharp, think twice, cut deep.
Enjoy the hobby.
And just one more thing.
I am for real, a good few here do actually know me and know of me.
My intention was to generate interesting controversy that you guys dont seem to enjoy around here., fair enough i screwed that up,,,,I am a person that is used to engaging when challenged, you do that well and so do i, so we get side tracked into bitching at each other, typical web time wasting excercise, we write as the mood strikes us.
So for those that i offend, it is not intentional, most of the time, i do not appologize just the same , i mean what i write and write what i mean. you gramar experts, enjoy being arm chair warriors, its safer.
Bottom line, i expect people to stand up for each other, regardless of who it is, not because Les is banned, because he is part of this knife community, just like any knife maker or recognized purveyor, truth be known i dont actually like the guy, i just put up with him , he can kiss my ass any time he wants too. Learn and enjoy all of these guys that dedicate thier lives to knive making and selling, they need us we need them. When they disagree, they can work thier differeneces out as Knife Pros, but we want to hear them all, dont we?
If we all agree with each other no one learns anything, ever.
Going down.
Kohai999
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psycho78 said:
No reason to moisten the messenger for bringing you your wake up call.
Real Dud is very well known to WWG, I just got off the phone with him. RD is acting on his own, without any provocation from or sanction by WWG, so don't hold his behavior against him.
RD, you think you are funny, and you are having fun, but you need to realize that a) this community is not here for your amusement, and b) we have to deal with your type of behavior from some newb/self amusing :jerkit: every month, so while it might seem fresh and fun to you, it is stale and boring to us.
I own the Pack River camp knife that you have with cocobolo scales. Really top quality work.
STeven Garsson
WWG, the Loveless-Johnson mark is very rare. Have only seen 2 in about 17 years, and they changed hands within a couple of minutes. Am sure all Loveless collectors know that Jim has helped him, all they have to do is to read the countless articles about him, dating back to Gun Digest's Book of Knives.
You have talked about "value for money". Buying Bob's blades at the Art Knife Invitational is certainly that. At the 1st AKI in 95, he sold his drop points for slightly less than 2000(if my memory is correct). In less than a month, one of the lucky bidders re-sold it for close to three grand. Is that enough "value for money" for you? I don't know of anyone that has lost money on a Loveless. Denton and Rhett Stidham certainly dont have trouble moving them, even with the relatively high mark up.
And nothing moves or sells faster than his fighters, nothing nobody makes even comes close. Because there is an extremely LONG line for them, even from dealers. In the space of 5 min, I have seen a Lawndale fighter and chute knife change hands 3 times. Once Paul Basch put 2 Baby Bears on his table, I turned around for a couple of min, and they were sold. And they were priced at $15,000.
Nobody has to take my word for it, just ask Denton, Rhett Stidham, Paul Basch, Dave Harvey. They are all veteran dealers at all the major knife shows.
Question for you, WWG:- Why are you the only dealer that has negative comments about Loveless knives?
Guess all those that attend the AKI every 2 years just for a chance to bid for a Loveless dont see the truth like you do.
You have talked about "value for money". Buying Bob's blades at the Art Knife Invitational is certainly that. At the 1st AKI in 95, he sold his drop points for slightly less than 2000(if my memory is correct). In less than a month, one of the lucky bidders re-sold it for close to three grand. Is that enough "value for money" for you? I don't know of anyone that has lost money on a Loveless. Denton and Rhett Stidham certainly dont have trouble moving them, even with the relatively high mark up.
And nothing moves or sells faster than his fighters, nothing nobody makes even comes close. Because there is an extremely LONG line for them, even from dealers. In the space of 5 min, I have seen a Lawndale fighter and chute knife change hands 3 times. Once Paul Basch put 2 Baby Bears on his table, I turned around for a couple of min, and they were sold. And they were priced at $15,000.
Nobody has to take my word for it, just ask Denton, Rhett Stidham, Paul Basch, Dave Harvey. They are all veteran dealers at all the major knife shows.
Question for you, WWG:- Why are you the only dealer that has negative comments about Loveless knives?
Guess all those that attend the AKI every 2 years just for a chance to bid for a Loveless dont see the truth like you do.
Kohai999
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TALON158 said:
If that is the only reason that they go to the AKI then they are fools. The AKI is certainly bigger than Loveless alone, and I happen to like the man. I went to my first one last year. Dude in the Panama hat.
You are getting face time with 25 0f the very best, and you get fed as well. Having a chance to bid on Walker, Yoshihara, and Kressler, just to name a few is as much of a reason to go to the AKI as any.
Best Regards,
STeven Garsson
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