Really stupid statement.

you can handle any knife carefully, be it fixed, locking, or slipjoint, and you can make any edge as fine as you want. What you can do, and what you should do, are influenced by the design of the tool you are using.
 
philwar said:
Or get a locking folder. Better yet, do both. ;) But you can rely on the lock. Your technique WILL fail you one day.
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But according to the original post, it will only fail if your a retard. That actually sounds about right.
 
its the truth, actually. i buy locking knives more for enjoyment of the mechanisms and tolerances than practicality
 
jackknife said:
This has been the big change in view that I've seen in my life. The weaponization of a everyday tool. The Hollywood effect. Put a knife in a movie, and you have instant sales.
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Knives have also served duty as weapons the entire time; this is nothing new.
They were used as weapons in the days of slip-joints, primarily as slashing weapons. There were ever entire books devoted to the use of non-locking folding knives as slashing weapons.
It is not a modern slandering of knives. They are multi-use tools, and always have been, and one of those uses has always been defensive/offensive.
 
Blop said:
Hey, if someone relies on the lock, someone else comes and tells him:"Any lock can fail!" and now you tell me the technic will?
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Any lock can fail. In practice, they never do.

Is that a kind of catch 22? :D
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Not really. Anything can fail. It is my personal experience that - almost invariably - humans fail long before equipment does. Hence the technique that will fail

The slipjoints "weakness" is its strength. If you handle the knife more carefully, you can lead a finer and sharper edge, than with a more robust "do all" knife.
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Again, this thinking is limited to cutting, and only unconstricted cutting at that. Also, there is nothing precluding a locked folder from cutting every bit as fine as any slipjoint.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
But according to the original post, it will only fail if your a retard. That actually sounds about right.
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Don't make me laugh. Having a folder with a lock does not guarantee you won't ever get cut.
Having an non-locking folder just raises the odds that you will. Anyone claiming they have perfect technique is deluding himself. No worries though, the knife will make him see the error of his ways.

I'm out of this debate. I don't see why people would argue against the self-evident urge for innovation and technical improvements but there it is. Anyone is welcome to use outdated technology, you see it in cars, stereo's, etc. You're even welcome to talk yourself into believing it's just as good or better than the latest greatest.
All I'm waiting for now is for bronze slipjoints to be announed. Beats S30V anytime, right? :rolleyes:
 
philwar said:
I don't see why people would argue against the self-evident urge for innovation and technical improvements
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Not many have said that a lock wasn't a good idea or that they didn't 'want' one. Most have just said (paraphrasing) "yes, it's true that you don't 'need' a locking blade".

I don't need a locking blade, but I have several and I like them. I have nothing against them at all.
 
I don't like slip joints so I guess that makes me a heretic. and I'm more comfortable with a lock on my folder so that also makes me a retard. advances have been made and for sure there will be more to come. so for those purists get over it and deal with it.
 
singularity35 said:
and I'm more comfortable with a lock on my folder so that also makes me a retard.
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No, you're a retard if you 'need' a lock on your folder. If you just prefer a locking blade that just means you have a preference, nothing wrong with that. It's just like the fact that no one 'needs' a BK-9 with its 9" blade - but I really like mine! If I only had what I 'needed' then I would have way less crap!
 
I have a couple deep scars on my fingers from the days I was a young boy and I was using slipjoints. I guess if I had a good, reliable locking folder, these wouldn't have happened. That's why I preffer a locking knife.
Indeed, it's easy to say that you don't hurt yourself if you are using the proper technique and I'm sure that many of you are pretty skilled and never had accidents. Unfortunately, this wasn't my case. I suspect others had accidental closings too.
I still believe that any measure, any device or innovation that increases the safety of a knife worth taking into consideration.
 
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Maybe we say: You don´t need a lock on a folding knife like you don´t need an airbag in your car."?

I guess that summs up all aspects.
 
Blop said:
Maybe we say: You don´t need a lock on a folding knife like you don´t need an airbag in your car."?

I guess that summs up all aspects.
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yes + 1 on this. and to relate to locking folders. you don't need a lock if you use proper technique. I guess we wouldn't be needing airbags is we drove with proper technique too. taking it further only retards need airbags.
 
If I understand correctly, this means that if you drink your milk straight from the cow, you don't need a lock on your folder?
*sits in a state of confusion*
 
Blop said:
Maybe we say: You don´t need a lock on a folding knife like you don´t need an airbag in your car."?

I guess that summs up all aspects.
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I addressed this statement earlier in this thread. That doesn't sum anything up because you can't compare a knife lock to an airbag. Refer to my earlier posts to understand why.
 
dialex said:
I have a couple deep scars on my fingers from the days I was a young boy and I was using slipjoints. I guess if I had a good, reliable locking folder, these wouldn't have happened. That's why I preffer a locking knife.
Indeed, it's easy to say that you don't hurt yourself if you are using the proper technique and I'm sure that many of you are pretty skilled and never had accidents. Unfortunately, this wasn't my case. I suspect others had accidental closings too.
I still believe that any measure, any device or innovation that increases the safety of a knife worth taking into consideration.
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The only knife that has cut me was a lockback case knife that the lock failed and closed on my finger. Luckily it hit my fingernail first which stopped it from going to the bone. If I had a good reliable slip joint I wouldn't have been doing what I was and it wouldn't have happened.

The fact you cut yourself with the slip joint probably has to do with being young and not thinking things through before you did it. You probably also didn't think about the mechanics of the knife and how different things would potentially cause it to close. You can use slip joints in a safe way and you can flail around with an open knife and cut yourself. The OP probably is having something similar happening to him which is why he doesn't see the need for slip joints and didn't like the other kid's comment.
 
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