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[PheonixKingZ]

You just posted a review for a different knife. Please go back and read our comments again.

That review was for the Spyderco Efficient.

I have a Resilience, Tenacious, and Persistence. They are all high quality. I've had my Tenacious for about 5 years and it's still kicking, even after I dropped it and broke the tip, taken it apart multiple times, and used it for things I probably shouldn't have used it for. The Efficient is even smaller than the Persistence, and for that reason I don't own one. The Persistence is about the smallest I would go (about Para 3 sized).

Take reviews on websites with a grain of salt. I read one review about the Kershaw Bareknuckle where the guy complained about the strength of the detent and the uneven edge grind. Yes, the first runs of Bareknuckles were a bit heavy with the detent, but if you kept your fingers off the lockbar (which a lot of people seem unable to do) it works just fine. And edges can be fixed. Mine was terrible at the tip (Kershaw and ZT have had edge problems for a while, but seem to be getting better). And people complain about the littlest things. You buy a budget knife, you sometimes have to look past a few flaws, just the name of the game.

Chinese Spydercos aren't up to the standard of the other factories. But they are still very good knives that will serve someone for a long time.

As for your parents thinking someone having a knife with a clip showing means they are showing off, or that its a weapon, or that someone will take it from you and use it on you, that sounds like a lot of people in this day and age who are scared of everything. Just follow their rules since it is their house and do what you can to show them you are responsible. Don't flick your knives, don't play with your knives, use them as a tool and put them away safely. Take the clip off and drop it in your pocket. Once you are old enough and can get on your own then you can start doing things the way you like. That's just part of life unfortunetly.

If they will let me, I’ll get the Tenacious. (Carbon fiber)

If not, I will get the Persistence. (It’s a shame it doesn’t come in Carbon fiber.) :/

 

[JPD1998]

If you have to remove the clip and don't want the knife flopping around in your pocket you could get one of these.
The pocket organizer slips in your pocket and carries like a wallet.
And you don't have two carry two knives , but you can.

 

[sabre cat]

When I take your parents feelings and attitude into consideration, I cannot help but feel that you are choosing the wrong type of knife.

Although, I personally do not agree with their views, I can see their side. From what you have stated, I can see that they have some concerns and many are valid in this day and age. Many that you can not see because of your youth.

Even though you don’t see eye to eye with your parents when it comes to pocket knives, they are still your parents. Like it or not, they have the final say. Life can be tough at times.

Count your blessings, my parents would have just said no and that would have been the end. No further discussion or the reason for their decision would have been given. Especially when I was 15.

If I may suggest, consider a different type of knife. Something that will meet your parents standards but still can be of use to you. I know that is not the route you would like to go but, it could be to your advantage.

Consider a simple, basic Swiss Army Knife. Not as exciting as other knives but extremely practical and useful. You would be amazed how many of us around here carry a SAK most of the time. Pick something like a Cadet or Spartan. You will find it a very useful knife. Trust me. More SAK are sold world wide than any other knife. This should tell you something.

As a parent, I learned to pick my battles with young people. Sometimes you can win a battle but lose the war. You don’t want to win this battle if it means the next few years under their roof will be more difficult. Let them win this one.

Then you still can approach them a little later for another knife. And, you still will want another knife no matter what you get now.

EDIT: You would be amazed how may of us carry a simple SAK even though we own hundreds or even thousands of dollars worth of knives.

 

[PheonixKingZ]

I’m gonna be honest:

SAK knives seem small and lame. Some may disagree with me, they just seem that way to me.

I have never used one, owned one, or seen one. I think that’s one of the reasons why I feel this was towards SAK knives.

 

[soc_monki]

I’m gonna be honest:

SAK knives seem small and lame. Some may disagree with me, they just seem that way to me.

I have never used one, owned one, or seen one. I think that’s one of the reasons why I feel this was towards SAK knives.

SAKs may be lame, but they have some large models. They are durable, useful, and can do the job 99% of us need done everyday. They have been made for years and will be made for years to come. Go watch some old MacGuyver episodes and see what can be done with a SAK. It's not the tool, but the user, that determines what can be done with said tool.

You are young and you won't listen to most of what we say. I know that because I was there at one time in my life. You will understand when you get older, and possibly have kids of your own.

 

[jlauffer]

I’m gonna be honest:

SAK knives seem small and lame. Some may disagree with me, they just seem that way to me.

I have never used one, owned one, or seen one. I think that’s one of the reasons why I feel this was towards SAK knives.

Along with my CS Grik, I pretty much always have this little keychain SAK with me too, and use the scissors all the time.

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[PheonixKingZ]

So you guys think I should get a SAK over a Spyderco Tenacious or Persistence?

 

[Velitrius]

Go look at the Blem section at KershawGuy. Good deals to be had...

https://kershawguy.com/products-page/blems-factory-seconds/

SAK's are certainly not lame. Been in this knife game for decades, and one of my favorite knives is still the SAK Rambler.

 

[000Robert]

I love my Kershaw Launch 1. It is an automatic.

 

[sabre cat]

So you guys think I should get a SAK over a Spyderco Tenacious or Persistence?

No matter what else you own, you should have a SAK in your collection. Just my opinion.

And not just any SAK. You get one with to many tools and it becomes awkward to use and to big for your pocket. If I may recommend the Spartan model and anything in the Alox series.
Swiss soldiers carried an Alox Soldier model from 1962 through 2008. Basically the same knife as the Alox Pioneer.

One of the good things about a SAK is that almost no one considers it a weapon.

Another is that you can carry it in places and to events that something like a Spyderco might not be suitable. Weddings and junk like that.

I guess I am saying yes, get a SAK and carry it for awhile.

Also, you should have enough money left over to put towards another knife.

 

[sabre cat]

FWIW, I am wearing dress slacks right now and have a SAK Cadet with me. It does everything I need done in an office environment.

 

[Lodd]

SAKs may seem lame now, but when you hit the legal drinking age, that corkscrew will become the best chick magnet ever invented.

Also, they're very dependable, carry easy, sharpen up easy and offer a lot of flexibility. I have more knives than I care to admit (even to the mirror), but every time I go on vacation, my SAK is coming with me. And I'll leave more expensive and cooler knives at home, just to make room for it.

 

[PheonixKingZ]

It would cost $70 to buy both... I may save up for both!

Now that I look into SAK knives more, they seem more practical and good. Are the blades/tools good quality? All of the off brand ones I’ve had over the years always break.

Im still deciding which one I should get first.

As of right now, I have $45.

 

[Lodd]

Get the victorinox ones. The steel is a little soft, but that's literally the only thing they could improve (and it'll sharpen up really easy). The tools on those are good. My personal favourite is the Victorinox Huntsman for all the tools it offers. (There's even a wooden scale version now, I see!) You could also take a look at the victorinox pioneer. It has nicer scales, but lacks some of the tools.

 

[sailfish]

I’m gonna be honest:

SAK knives seem small and lame. Some may disagree with me, they just seem that way to me.

I have never used one, owned one, or seen one. I think that’s one of the reasons why I feel this was towards SAK knives.

Admittedly the regular plastic-handled ones don't do much for me either but the Alox models are a different story. They have aluminum handles and are considerably thinner and have more of that fine Swiss timepiece feel. They usually come in silver but you can find them in other colors. I actually have another on the way to me right now, a green Bantam.

Not my personal pic by the way but a good representation.

 

[PheonixKingZ]

Was actually looking at that model - found it in red and silver.

So right now, my choice is the Huntsman, the the other one that was suggested. Also the Spyderco one is still an option.

 

[sabre cat]

It would cost $70 to buy both... I may save up for both!

Now that I look into SAK knives more, they seem more practical and good. Are the blades/tools good quality? All of the off brand ones I’ve had over the years always break.

Im still deciding which one I should get first.

As of right now, I have $45.

$45 dollars is more than enough for a SAK. You should have a decent chunk of change left over.

If you buy used you can get some great deals. I have seen used Spartans for about six bucks but a more realistic price is about $12-15 on the bay.

Alox models are my favorite but they lack tweezers and toothpick.

The Spartan is basically the same thing as the Pioneer but with plastic scales, tweezers, toothpick, and corkscrew added. Don’t underestimate the corkscrew. It works great to remove knots in shoelaces and you can store a mini-screwdriver in it.

Victorinox and Wenger are the only true SAKs out there. Avoid all others.

 

[PheonixKingZ]

Ok, thanks. I will look on eBay for some!

 

[Cvrobinson]

Purchased all these knives for under $50 each
Top 4 do not have clips
The Mcusta doesn’t have a clip
All the others have removable clips
If were to make a suggestion, can’t go wrong with a Buck or an Alox SAK

 

[PheonixKingZ]

How could you get all those for under $50? Those Spyderco ones cost at least $40 each.