Recommend me a new EDC that cannot be opened by inertia

Under 4 inch fixed blade. Old loophole in the NYC law. The Loveless New York Special is called that for a reason. This whole “gravity knife” thing is a new interpretation of an old law.
 
If I travel to NYC, I believe I'll take the SAK Rambler with me.

SAK is the Saint-Bernard-With-A-Brandy-Cask-Around-Its-Neck of knives.

And a tactical pen of sorts I suppose.

But I expect that more likely than not I'll not travel to NYC. Thanks anyways.
 
SAK Alox Cadet. If you don't go there often, then it's silly to spend more, and/or risk running into the one NYPD officer who's figured out how to wrist flick.

Once you've figured out the motion, any modern folder can be flicked out within a couple attempts. Get a traditional. The Cadet offers added utility, and is pretty handy to carry anywhere. I keep one with me often.
 
Tighten that pivot and lets hope the cop dodnt eat his wheatees and his kids didnt geg him upset that day and didnt have to deal with some jack hole before taking it out on your folder. The law didnt specify a certain way of holding it. Dam him if he starts swinging it like some nunckucks. Im glad i dont have to worry about that.
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palmerdl Sir you have solved the problems of Many with 17 words and I say BRILLIANT! :cool::thumbsup: So just Tighten the pivot screw! While in New York
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I don't see how that could hold up in a court of law. There are too many variables involved the biggest one being the officer himself. There is no way you can tell me that jimmy limp wrist is going to have the same results as officer Mariano Rivera<;) LEA's should be made to have a machine for that like a breathalyzer for alcohol. This is the age of technology and they should be forced to utilize it. The days of blowing in a cops face for him to judge if you are drunk are long gone and for good reasons. The Last thing I would be worried about in NYC is someone having a knife that they can shake open. Thats BS and needs to be challenged. Any Lawyers on the BF care to chime in please?
 
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palmerdl Sir you have solved the problems of Many with 17 words and I say BRILLIANT! :cool::thumbsup: So just Tighten the pivot screw! While in New York
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Yeah unless they shake the knife 5 times with the blade creeping a little bit towards open each shake; then declare it a gravity knife.
 
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I don't see how that could hold up in a court of law. There are too many variables involved the biggest one being the officer himself. There is no way you can tell me that jimmy limp wrist is going to have the same results as officer Mariano Rivera<;) LEA's should be made to have a machine for that like a breathalyzer for alcohol. This is the age of technology and they should be forced to utilize it. The days of blowing in a cops face for him to judge if you are drunk are long gone and for good reasons. The Last thing I would be worried about in NYC is someone having a knife that they can shake open. Thats BS and needs to be challenged. Any Lawyers on the BF care to chime in please?
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It’s been challenged. Nyc don’t give a damn. I have family and friends in NYC who have spoken to cops there who say it is largely a method to harass minorities. I even know a guy who lives in NYC and walks around every day with 2 folders and a fixed blade on that has never had trouble because he is white.

The most engagement he has ever gotten from a cop on the issue was, “Nice Spyderco.”
 
Opinel, or Cold Steel Twistmaster if they still make those. Twist the ring and King Kong couldn’t flick it.
 
^True that Lapedog. It's not like the NYC PD have enough to do with all the thugs, crack heads, and crazzys running around to be wasting their time shaking pocket knives. I wonder how much money NY has to dole out for their officers to make court appearances pocket knives. I bet that figure would blow NY tax payers minds. This gravity thing is just one more reason not to live in or travel to NYC. I'm cool with upstate though;)
 
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It’s been challenged. Nyc don’t give a damn. I have family and friends in NYC who have spoken to cops there who say it is largely a method to harass minorities. I even know a guy who lives in NYC and walks around every day with 2 folders and a fixed blade on that has never had trouble because he is white.

The most engagement he has ever gotten from a cop on the issue was, “Nice Spyderco.”
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I fully understand it now and I know for a fact that certain drugs were made illegal in the past for the purpose of harassing curtain minorities that used them. It's ridiculous and morally wrong.
 
F**k NYC and their draconian laws. This is the same city that won't let you legally purchase a Big Gulp. Worst part is, while a NY cop is busy busting you for a "gravity knife", chances are, he's carrying an OTF auto in his pocket. :rolleyes: The people of the city need to wake up and realize they have become subjects and not citizens.

OP, I say go fixed blade. And go right up to the legal limit. Even if a cop wants to mess you, he's gonna have to find a truely legit reason to write you a citation, instead of for a bogus 'gravity' knife.
 
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  • zombie knives - a knife with a cutting edge, a serrated edge and images or words suggesting it is used for violence
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Wow....just...wow... @Pilsner , seriously? I feel bad for you. I mean, what happens if one removes the printing with some sandpaper from the blade? Does it become legal, is it even more illegal because you're trying to conceal your violent knife and make people believe it's now less sharp? Does it make a Spyderco Military/Para Military Illegal? I mean I guess they are probably arguing the same crap as they do here to "give law enforcement more flexibility" so as long you don't chop some dude up with your "Death Ripper 3000" it's not gonna be an issue, and only if you're caught walking around with it without a good reason they will let you go back home. Or if you're in the woods with a Esee with a Skull on it and don't behave like a douche you won't get dragged into court for a Zombie Knife with a Skull on it?

As for non gravity knife suggestions I agree with the notion of a slipjoint, since as far I can tell the gravity knife law applies to knife that shake open and lock. A small gentlemanly slippy might be a good option to be on the safe side. Lionsteel/CK Bolus, Shuffler etcpp would be my pick.
 
In all reality its not getting to court thats the objective. If you get to court you end up paying fees. Attorneys arent free. Even if you win the court case. If it doesnt hold then thats great but you've gone through all the trouble.
 
It would be funny to see a cop try to shake or wrist flick open an Alox Pioneer (or a Cadet). The only thing he'd probably accomplish is accidentally dropping or throwing the closed knife.

Jim
 
jdm61 said:
Under 4 inch fixed blade. Old loophole in the NYC law. The Loveless New York Special is called that for a reason. This whole “gravity knife” thing is a new interpretation of an old law.
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This sounds like the way to go , but sure makes the whole law seem totally absurd and pointless . o_O
 
Not too long ago, what with the CBSA fiasco and all, Sal mentioned something to the effect (in their own forums) that the reason that one hand opening knives were being targeted was that a person (holding a knife in their closed hand) could walk up to a cop and, flick it open without the cop noticing or realizing it. Then supposedly it could be used against the cop.
(http://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=79614#p1233081)

However, if it takes an exaggerated motion and several attempts at that, that would make the sneaking up to a cop rather moot?
 
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CRKT Pilar. Surprisingly good quality for the price.

Alternately, many knives that you could normally open with inertia could be fixed not to, if you tightened up the pivot screw.
 
cop in new york might just take your knife without doing any tests. And when you show up in court the screw will be untightened.
I don't know, did I raise a valid point? Lol
 
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