Replacement ZT 0801.. lock bar still moving over to the right 100%

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Is it the ZT 0801 or Duro? Moot point. Perhaps Duro should just move on since he can't get any satisfaction as such. There are plenty of other choices out there.

Personally, I have two ZT 0801, both are flawless and can't imagine the lock going so far to the right even with moderate abuse.
 
If the frame lock was designed to do this.....than its not a problem for this knife. I don't know squat about frame lock geometry, but appears with a thick lock side and minimal angling on the blade side....maybe it's designed to be this way? What do I know though. This could be put to bed by kai rep saying it's within spec and designed this way or not. Ahhh except all those nasty politics always get in the way of making things easy.;)
 
I don't see what the problem is with 100% lockup. I can move some of my frame locks over pretty far if I provide enough force. But lets be honest, if there is no blade play no harm. There maybe a multitude of reasons behind this but seems like if you search for a "flaw" hard enough, you'll find one
 
That lock leaves no room for wear, I would return it or sell it. I would find another brand of knives to spend my money on OP, you can't seem to get one you like!
 
skyhorse said:
I believe Duro would find the Benchmade line of knives more to his liking. :) ;)
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Yeah, let him go pollute the Benchmade forum with complaints about perceived issues. Heaven forbid he ever had an omega spring break, it would be a year long ordeal with a dozen threads about it.
 
He added a pic to his first post. The only way I could get mine over that far would be to hit it with a dead blow hammer. I'd be annoyed too.
 
I just never know what you (Duro) want out of threads like these. Did you want to start a lets hate on ZT war? It's surely not bringing knowledge to anyone as you only answer to people who call you out and not ones with legitimate questions. If Rexford himself said it's not a Design flaw I still think you wouldn't be happy. I don't know what you want Duro, but the way things are going I don't see it going anywhere.

So one question how does it cut? Because that's all I really care about with a knife in the end.

People these days have such high expectations on knives and I bet less then 15-20% actually use them. I got knives that wiggle, rattle, have lock rock, blade play every which way etc etc ..But guess what. They still cut. And I still carry them.
 
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Look at it this way, if you are a company that has an item returned to you, by a customer for a specific reason. What would you do, send them a replacement with the exact same issue, or check throughly that the replacement can't have that issue? Even if the company felt the consumer was being overly picky, I would think they'd make sure that the item was an example the consumer would be happy with. At least that's how most companies operate, that want to try to please even the most difficult customers. And yes many will go out of their way to try to please the people that they rely on to purchase their products.

So no matter what anyone says, ZT should have taken time to check thoroughly this replacement was without the issue that caused dissatisfaction in the first place. It's not like it takes much effort to pick a knife out that, has lock up that can't be pushed over with finger pressure mail it back and be done with it. And yes it could have been done that way, I have 4 ZT's that I can't get the lock bar to move on at all. Other posters say their 0801's can't be pushed over 100%, so why not just check and mail the customer back what they want? At least that seems the simple solution to me.
 
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One time I bought a brand new 0300 and it had a couple of spots in the black blade coating. It wasn't anything that could possibly cause the knife to cut badly. But, the fact was I bought and paid for a non-blemished knife and I felt this one should have been marked XXXX- a blemished knife and sold as such. I returned it and ZT sent me a new 0300 with a blade that didn't have the issue I sent it in for. I was happy, the solution was simple. The end result was I've spent a lot more money purchasing ZT products and maybe I wouldn't have if I'd got a 0300 back with the same issue I sent it in for.
 
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For what it's worth: I just got my 801 out and opened it. The lockup is between 30-40%,and it has absolutely no blade play. With hard thumb pressure I can move the lockbar over to between 80-90%. When I unlock the knife and reopen, it goes back to the original lockup of 30-40% and still no bladeplay can be felt. I took my other two framelocks out, a ZT0600, and a LionSteel SR-1D and tried to move the lockbar using the same thumb pressure, and neither lockbar could be moved. But try as I might, I could not get my hand to apply pressure to the lockbar no matter how hard I squeezed the handle! So again, just for what it is worth.
 
jill jackson said:
Look at it this way, if you are a company that has an item returned to you, by a customer for a specific reason. What would you do, send them a replacement with the exact same issue, or check throughly that the replacement can't have that issue? Even if the company felt the consumer was being overly picky, I would think they'd make sure that the item was an example the consumer would be happy with. At least that's how most companies operate, that want to try to please even the most difficult customers. And yes many will go out of their way to try to please the people that they rely on to purchase their products.

So no matter what anyone says, ZT should have taken time to check thoroughly this replacement was without the issue that caused dissatisfaction in the first place. It's not like it takes much effort to pick a knife out that, has lock up that can't be pushed over with finger pressure mail it back and be done with it. And yes it could have been done that way, I have 4 ZT's that I can't get the lock bar to move on at all. Other posters say their 0801's can't be pushed over 100%, so why not just check and mail the customer back what they want? At least that seems the simple solution to me.
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Seems like common sense to me. How can anybody argue with this?
 
jill jackson said:
One time I bought a brand new 0300 and it had a couple of spots in the black blade coating. It wasn't anything that could possibly cause the knife to cut badly. But, the fact was I bought and paid for a non-blemished knife and I felt this one should have been marked XXXX- a blemished knife and sold as such. I returned it and ZT sent me a new 0300 with a blade that didn't have the issue I sent it in for. I was happy, the solution was simple. The end result was I've spent a lot more money purchasing ZT products and maybe I wouldn't have if I'd got a 0300 back with the same issue I sent it in for.
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Lol,Jill the key word here is (ONE) time. With all due respect,this is like the hundredth time for Duro.:eek: I guess anything is possible but what are the odds ? :confused:
 
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