Ritter MK1 in CPM M4

ar0maticdecay said:
does the ritter grip have full steel liners or are they only partial like the normal model?
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mongomondo said:
They are exactly the same except for the different blade.
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ar0maticdecay said:
blah deal breaker for me......
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Iron_Dreamer said:
Yeah, $150 for the M4 grip isn't that appealing for me, after the $150 M4 Rift, which had full steel liners AND G10 scales.
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Just out of curiosity, has anyone experienced a failure of a Griptilian handle due to the partial liners? :rolleyes:
 
I don't think I've ever heard of or read of a Grip failing due to anything related to: Lock (aside from omega spring), Liners, Handles.

IF a grip fails, the blade chips/breakes... given this isn't the typical Grip blade... I think that can be pretty much ignored as well..
 
Iron_Dreamer said:
Yeah, $150 for the M4 grip isn't that appealing for me, after the $150 M4 Rift, which had full steel liners AND G10 scales.
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The M4 Rift was made from left over materials. Kudos to Roger at KnifeWorks for getting it put together, but still I bet he was able to get that run of knives cheaper than what a normal custom order from BM would cost.

Also the Ritter has a new DLC blade coating that BM is having done plus a tumbled finish on the coating. The M4 Rift had just the in house BK1 coating. I held out on buying the M4 Rift but I had to get this M4 Ritter, it's going to be a great user. I really want to try out the new coating.
 
i'm sure that the handle might be strong and u wont ever have a prob with it.

either way there is just something about have a plastic handle that i dont like.

i would like some feedback on it if any1 who owns one can comment
 
ar0maticdecay said:
i'm sure that the handle might be strong and u wont ever have a prob with it.

either way there is just something about have a plastic handle that i dont like.

i would like some feedback on it if any1 who owns one can comment
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I am thinking that the 'feel' of the Zytel handles must be a personal preference. I have a half dozen Grips including a couple of Ritters and the handles feel secure in my hands without any sense of flex due to the polycarbonate (plastic) composition. I like my FRN Native as well. No, they don't feel the same as one of my Emersons, Bucks or the Gayle Bradley, but they are light and strong nevertheless.

The 'feel' of a Griptilian is very subjective, so there is no right or wrong answer. The best that I can suggest is to actually try one in hand.
 
To me, the selling point of the Ritter is the steel and the blade profile. Not the liners or the handle/scales. I have no beef with the partial liners nor the plastic handle/scales. The partial liners are totally unnoticeable & the scales I have upgraded to my own liking. I have a standard and a mini in M2 both with WilkinsGrips & because of my experience with them, I did not want to miss out on these new LE M4 models. But to each their own. Maybe the Ritters aren't your cup of tea. They're definitely mine!
 
The Griptilian is one of the most talked about knives on these forums and I have never read a post about one breaking other than the rare omega spring or blade chipping. Neither one of those has anything to do with FRN handles or partial liners.

There are many knives that are only FRN and have no liners at all. So I'm not sure how a liner that extends for ~3/4 (?) of the blade will make for a weak knife. I haven't noticed or read about flex either. The handles have internal ribs which strengthen the handle scale and save weight but also is probably the reason they have a different hollow sounding 'clack' when being opened and closed.

Other than people's perception of 'plastic' handles there is nothing that is actually a problem with the Griptilian line and combined with the AXIS lock they are probably one of the tougher production folders on the market.

There should be nothing about the knife that should be a deal breaker from a strength and quality standpoint so rest assured that it is a great knife if you buy one. They might have characteristics that aren't for everyone but they are still a great knife line and you will most likely always be able to get your money back if you don't like it, especially the M4 version.
 
My question is, what are your guys going to do with a M4 Ritter Grip?
Are you buying it to use or just keep on a shelf? I'm going to use mine.
 
Well, that's one nice thing about the plastic handle. You can use it without guilt. It's difficult to think of a plastic-handled knife as a safe queen,
 
Sigguy said:
My question is, what are your guys going to do with a M4 Ritter Grip?
Are you buying it to use or just keep on a shelf? I'm going to use mine.
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User for sure. CPM M4 just begs to cut stuff, and keep on cutting.
 
How much you folks think it'd cost to get the Mini RSK in M4, but switch out the black grips for safety yellow, making it my own personal "Bumble Bee"? Somebody at aeromedix said I could always buy two knives and switch the handles, but spending that kind of money is not affordable to me. Also, how worried should I be about rust if used as an every day carry? If it gets a bit wet, should I freak out immediately and run for the dry cloth and oil? I've always been told that a pocket folder should be stainless so as not to have to worry. Worth the tradeoff? thanks gotoran@gmail.com
 
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