Rockstead Knowledge Thread

If that is a Higo and a Hizen posing with the Sebenzas, my questions are answered regarding size (thanks stician). I thought I would start with the Hizen, and that pic confirms it.

Is there any consensus on which steel?
 
MVF said:
If that is a Higo and a Hizen posing with the Sebenzas, my questions are answered regarding size (thanks stician). I thought I would start with the Hizen, and that pic confirms it.

Is there any consensus on which steel?
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I love the Hizen. At 2.5 oz it is so easy to carry. The blade shape is useful and cuts everything like butter and at just under 3" I never feel out-bladed. My ZDP-189 has a HRc of ~66.4 and haven't been able to scuff it. I clean it with a good CLP and buff it with a cloth.

Same hand to illustrate my point on Hizen. At $710 for ZDP it is great value in my opinion.

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nick_30 said:
I have worndered if rocksted could push cut toliet paper or whittle hair from the factory
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Nothing can push cut toilet paper, but a Rocky can whittle hair from the factory. However, I've sharpened knives to be much sharper than a Rockstead.

They're (claimed) the sharpest knives from the factory, not the sharpest knives ever.
 
My thoughts excatly

Granted, most of them are kitchen knifes which you can do that with more easily, but still, that is awesome
 
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Push cutting

[video=youtube_share;Z9pB2FHNuZU]http://youtu.be/Z9pB2FHNuZU[/video]

Not push cutting

[video=youtube_share;5hD6yokf0pQ]http://youtu.be/5hD6yokf0pQ[/video]

There is nothing impressive about doing any of this. This can be done with a Sharpmaker, it's all about how good you are at sharpening.
 
I VERY seriously doubt you can do that with a sharpmaker. Waaayyy to fast and not precise enough to get the edge clean enough to cut toliet paper. I could be wrong but in the 27 years I have been sharping knives, it takes a extremely fine perfect apexed edge to cut stuff like that. Of course I am referring to regular 1/8" and above folder and 3/16" and above fixed
 
nick_30 said:
I VERY seriously doubt you can do that with a sharpmaker. I could be wrong...
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You are...

All I use to sharpen my edges is a Spyderco DoubleStuff (same ceramic as Sharpmaker), unless they need reprofiling (then it's DMT or paper wheels). I've restored a dull edge back to hair whittling sharpness with just my ceramic stone multiple times:thumbup:
 
Crap...my bad...I was getting sharpmaker and work sharp confused...hahaha
My previous is probably Making more sense know huh[emoji38]
 
Blues Bender said:
What will you use it for? What kind of stuff do you cut?
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Just general pocket duty, so not what I think of as hard use or abusive. Food, cardboard, those plastic packages that seem to be getting tougher and tougher. I don't think I'm hard on my knives in general, but for that price I: a. don't want to be afraid to use it, and b. don't want to screw it up when I'm being "not afraid to use it".

Am I correct in understanding that the ZDP will hold an edge longer, but the other steel is tougher? I'm guessing that for my use I might never notice the difference (other than sharpening the DLC clad knife more often- but I won't know it's "more often"!), so I guess my main concern is just how prone to chipping is the ZDP? How careful do you need to be with it and/or what do you consider it's limitations vs. the DLC blade?

Also, anyone care to comment on the attractiveness and durability of the different finishes?

Thanks again to stician for the in-hand pic. The Hizen is definitely the one for me. Then, I'm afraid I'm going to need a Chou, even though I don't know what I would do with it.
 
MVF said:
Just general pocket duty, so not what I think of as hard use or abusive. Food, cardboard, those plastic packages that seem to be getting tougher and tougher. I don't think I'm hard on my knives in general, but for that price I: a. don't want to be afraid to use it, and b. don't want to screw it up when I'm being "not afraid to use it".

Am I correct in understanding that the ZDP will hold an edge longer, but the other steel is tougher? I'm guessing that for my use I might never notice the difference (other than sharpening the DLC clad knife more often- but I won't know it's "more often"!), so I guess my main concern is just how prone to chipping is the ZDP? How careful do you need to be with it and/or what do you consider it's limitations vs. the DLC blade?

Also, anyone care to comment on the attractiveness and durability of the different finishes?

Thanks again to stician for the in-hand pic. The Hizen is definitely the one for me. Then, I'm afraid I'm going to need a Chou, even though I don't know what I would do with it.
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Your understanding is correct. For uses like that, I think you'll be fine with ZDP.

Personally, I'm a little hard on my knives and can benefit from the extra toughness.

I've hacked away at small branches, thick plastics, and other things. Done some wood cutting and hit knots while doing so. Cut through zip ties and smacked the edge against concrete and/or steel. Cut through some heavy gauge wire...Not once have I seen a chip on YXR7, and I'm pretty sure ZDP would have chipped under some of those chores.

The attractiveness of the DLC coating is really unique. I like to describe it as a "smoky mirror/gunmetal" effect. The standard polish on ZDP is beautiful too, but if you've seen one mirror polished bevel you've seen them all. Rockstead is the only one doing mirrored DLC finishes as far as I know.

As for durability, the ZDP will scratch much easier that the DLC coating. It all depends on how you use it though. I have quite a few scratches on my DLC Higo-X, and if it weren't coated it would have even more scratches.
 
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