Rough Rider & Related Slipjoints

Black Mamba, that's a stellar looking stockman you've got there. I vaguely remember seeing some RR's offered in Genuine Stag, now that I think about it. I do remember that they cost a bit more than your typical RR, but I can see paying it. At the moment I can't find any genuine stag RR's, but there are plenty of the bone stag models the Second Cut looking Jigging. I might opt for the latter.
 
Peregrin said:
From 2 posts back ...
Good info on the RR linerlocks. Since they don't fit our definition of traditional (as has been mentioned by our members) let's nip these in the bud.
Thanks!

No more linerlock talk, please.
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I hate to be that guy, but linerlocks are pretty traditional.
 

Shecky,
If you have a question about a moderator instruction, take it up with us via PM.

However, since the question has been posed.
To Clarify:
Some linerlocks are traditional. (reference: TL-29)
Those with pocket clips and thumb studs are not.

Make sure the linerlock knives you talk about in Traditional are the ones without pocket clips and thumbstuds.



 
midnight flyer said:
Ding ! Ding! Winner! I thought I might be the only one to know what that thing was, but should have known better than that! That opener style was used to open all manner of cans including oil cans, hydraulic fluids, and heavy duty food service type cans that were used for the larger (heavier) cans that the scout/SAK had trouble with. I think it was used by someone's military for a while.

That style of can opener came out a few decades ago and never caught on. The back story is that so many folks bent the traditional scout/SAK style can opener is that they were looking for something more sturdy. I was camping a lot back thirty years ago and that design was hailed as huge improvement as it is almost impossible to bend. This was big news as almost all the scout/SAK openers on all of my fellow camper's knives were so bent they were almost useless. (Five minutes of instruction and some patience on the operator's part would have prevented 99% of that problem, but I digress...)

The blunt blade was supposed to have other utility value, defined as the owner saw fit. I hated that opener as I was used to opening my tuna cans with the other style and could do it easily and quickly. This style has faded out over the years as a lot of folks can't figure out how to use it. I used the thumbstud as a stop, and operated like this guy, but without the enthusiasm.

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I used a combination of punching and levering. The key to successful operation is keeping the flat side of the blade against the can's rim side. This causes the bevel to force/keep the blade against the perimeter when cutting making it a straight cut. Used the other way, the bevel pushes the blade towards the center of the lid and you lose your leverage. I know it sounds counter intuitive with the stud being on the opposite side of the flat, but the stud still works to help chew off the lid.

We found that if we sharpened it to a dull edge, that style of can opener actually worked OK. The good news is that it was indestructible. We got fast with the punch, lever, twist, remove, repeat motion, but the scout/SAK is still easier to use and will last very well as an opener if you know how to use it.

Robert
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I've only tried it once to be fair, but I found myself thinking even more fondly of whoever invented the P38! :D
 
Jack Black said:
I've only tried it once to be fair, but I found myself thinking even more fondly of whoever invented the P38! :D
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NO KIDDING!!! I finally went to a tiny little crank opener, which was a small version of the larger one we used at home. Until I got that little cranker, I never did find an easy, fast solution to carry.

I never liked opening cans with my knives. I started out with my old Scout pattern that I got around 1960 or so. The knife was OK, but the execution of the can opening blade was so bad it just didn't work. I loved that old knife, but I was better off using a screwdriver to open my cans than the opener on the can blade.

Now of course, everything is packed in aseptic mylar packaging, so the sheepfoot on my stockman knife does the job of opening up food containers when needed. I haven't taken a can opener when camping/hunting in many, many years.

Robert
 
midnight flyer said:
NO KIDDING!!! I finally went to a tiny little crank opener, which was a small version of the larger one we used at home. Until I got that little cranker, I never did find an easy, fast solution to carry.

I never liked opening cans with my knives. I started out with my old Scout pattern that I got around 1960 or so. The knife was OK, but the execution of the can opening blade was so bad it just didn't work. I loved that old knife, but I was better off using a screwdriver to open my cans than the opener on the can blade.

Now of course, everything is packed in aseptic mylar packaging, so the sheepfoot on my stockman knife does the job of opening up food containers when needed. I haven't taken a can opener when camping/hunting in many, many years.

Robert
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:D I also rarely take cans with me camping anymore, they weigh too much! I never seem to be able to find a good can opener for in the house, let alone camping, so my P-38 has been in use since 1978!

Jack
 
I was looking to purchase some stocking stuffers for Christmas and have been curious about the Rough Rider brand. I ordered four slip joints and paid a total of around 40 bucks. The small Congresses are RR1127. The Congress whittler is a RR457.
I'm pretty impressed with what I received for my money. All sharp, good walk and talk, good fit and finish and no blade wobble.
Four for four. Not bad. A little blade rub, nothing serious. I expect that in a lower priced 3 or 4 blade knife.
I'll have to keep one for myself and see how it holds up to some use.
Sorry about the picture but my daylight is about gone here.
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The congress pattern is starting to grow on me finally. I also like the imitation shell scales. I have yet to own either of these things, so I think I may look into them soon! They all really great.
 
Hi,

I've been toting one of those tortoise Congress's off and on for a couple of years now. I like it for going to town. They are great little cutters. Those thin blades just whisper through modern packaging. And look good doing it too.

Interestingly, mine has the round RR shield while your's all seem to have bars. I think I kind of like the bar. Looks good with that pattern. Here's mine.
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Dale
 
Those look nice. I'm quite fond of the imitation tortoise shell on the RR's. It reminds me a great deal of the imitation tortoise that is found on the more contemporary Boker traditionals.
 
I've also got some RR faux Tortoise and it's not a bad effort at all. A Whittler (round bolster split back pattern) and a large Sodbuster with liner lock. The Small Congress with bar shield is a neat little knife-very good for opening tricky shell packets, plastics etc. Impressive to have near sunk-joints on such a moderately priced knife. That knife also comes in red jigged bone and yellow delrin.
 
whetrock said:
Those look nice. I'm quite fond of the imitation tortoise shell on the RR's. It reminds me a great deal of the imitation tortoise that is found on the more contemporary Boker traditionals.
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Me too, one of the latter was on the list I sent to Santa :) I've only seen a limited number of RR on sale here, and they don't include the Lonesome George scales, so it's a first look for me. Very nice :)
 
black mamba said:
Four RR stockmen and the one on the far left is a Marbles import. Armor hide is 2nd from the right.

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My favorite is the Saw Cut, second from the left

I had a whole bunch of them different patterns and sizes, all given away as gifts
 
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You and me both, neeman. I have 9 brown sawcuts:
copperhead, mini-trapper, stockman, sowbelly, large coke bottle, toothpick, Mustang lockback, one-arm razor trapper and grand daddy barlow.

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I like the Grandaddy Barlow. The Swedge is a nice touch. Also it's large and generous, like a grandaddy Barlow ought to be.
 
I would love to get the all the saw cut series. Especially the Deer Slayer, G daddy barlow, and stockman. I wish the coke bottle came in a flat grind. Beautiful bone scales on those knives.
 
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On Christmas eve me and my wife give each other some PJ pants with an xmas theme and then a gift under $25...she got me this as my gift! its quite a nice knife, i'll open presents with it in the morning. :)
 
Hi,

That is a cutie and in one of my favorite patterns! I'm not normally a fan of blade etches, but that one I do really like! A very festive knife for the holidays.

Dale
 
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