Rycen took my sons hope away.

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LonnieA

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This thread is a compilation of a deal and complaints by Over Kill on being banned for not following through. We will lift the ban and give him a chance to explain what he is going to do to correct the problem. Until this is completed to everyone's satisfaction, he may post only in this thread.

This an unusual procedure. As Exchange forum moderator, rycen asked the supermoderators to work with him to allow it. We all hope everyone keeps the discussion on topic and professional.




Hi I usually go by the name of Over Kill here on the forums. Rycen banned my account about an hour ago because I could not issue drift draft a refund until tomorrow.

A few of you know me on the forums, I have held giveaways with over $100 in knives and I have proxied for members at shows. I have over 30 great feedback's and no negative.

About two months ago my son was diagnosed with cancer. I have been selling off my entire knife collection to fund his medical treatment and give him a shot to make it through this.

Drift draft purchased a knife from me about 15 days ago. The day he purchased it I realized the knife was at my mothers house ( she was going through a move). I went there that day to procure the knife but it was already packed up. I notified drift draft of the situation and asked him if I could refund his money until I found the knife so that he wouldn't have money out until I found it. He said based on my feedback that he trusted me and was a patient person.

I guess his patience ran out and he got a mod (Rycen) involved and demanded a refund. I told him a few days ago that my brother found the blade and I was waiting for a reply to see if he wanted the knife instead of the refund. I did not hear back from him.

Instead I heard from Rycen who threatens to ban me if the refund is not given today. I had a sale thread going so I could get money in my paypal account for the refund and to pay for some more of my sons med bills. I explained all of this to both of them letting them know that I would be able to do the refund tomorrow that the banks are already closed so I wont be able to get the money in their till the morning.

In response a Paypal dispute was opened against me and Rycen banned my account.

Now I have no way to sell the rest of the few remaining knives in my collection to get my son through this. I am very worried about him now that I cant make this extra money selling the rest of my collection

Did I deserve to be banned and treated like a thief by this mod?

Sorry about all of the grammar errors I am shaking with worry and I dont know how I am going to tell my son that I can no longer afford his treatment.
 
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Sir

It would seem to me that if you are being truthful about your son's condition, being banned from a knife forum would not be of global import....
 
My sale thread was closed / I was treated like scum / and my account was banned.

Has rycen been known to be a power abusing mod>?
 
Sir

It would seem to me that if you are being truthful about your son's condition, being banned from a knife forum would not be of global import....

My son is going through treatment right now and it is not free. Money is of global importance and I need to sell my collection off to make this money.
 
That is a sad story for sure. I hear a lot of those... I don't think Rycen would up and ban without cause and procedure. Also many times your banned till you resolve the issue. Also very suspicious you poping up on another account and airing it public. I would delete post, wait till tomorrow and resolve issue then talk to Rycen.
 
So sell them on ebay.....not to be cold but to say that "Rycen took your son's hope away" is absurd.... Perhaps we are all to blame because we did not buy any of your blades.
 
My account was banned. A knife I was counting on selling to pay upcoming bills was taken off. I am going to air this public till I have nothing left because my son is my life and I don't care if everyone on blade forums hates me for making this public but i saw no other way.

trust me I dod not want this to be public knowledge.
 
So sell them on ebay.....not to be cold but to say that "Rycen took your son's hope away" is absurd.... Perhaps we are all to blame because we did not buy any of your blades.

You obviously don't have kids of your own.
 
Lonnie

If you must know, I have three children and 3 foster children...You are not helping your cause here my friend...

Best luck
 
I'm a trusting guy, he did not post that we are bastids for not buying his knives, but that he was banned, SHTF in his life.

My advice, do what you can to make it right with the buyer, and I'm truely sorry for what you're going through, I cannot imagine the pain of a child with cancer.
 
This will probably be deleted again by rycen because he knows that he slighted me here. I will keep re-posting this until the entire blade forums community can see it so you might as well leave it up and deal with it like a man rycen.


Hi I usually go by the name of Over Kill here on the forums. He banned my account about thirty mins ago because I could not issue drift draft a refund until tomorrow.

A few of you know me on the forums, I have held giveaways with over $100 in knives and I have proxyed for members at shows. I have over 30 great feedbacks and no negative.

About two months ago my son was diagnosed with cancer. I have been selling off my entire knife collection to fund his medical treatment and give him a shot to make it through this.

Drift draft purchased a knife from me about 15 days ago. The day he purchased it I realized the knife was at my mothers house ( she was going through a move). I went there that day to procure the knife but it was already packed up. I notified drift draft of the situation and asked him if I could refund his money untill I found the knife so that he wouldn't have money out untill I found it. He said based on my feedback that he trusted me and was a patient person.

I guess his patience ran out and he got a mod (Rycen) involved and demanded a refund. I told him a few days ago that my brother found the blade and I was waiting for a reply to see if he wanted the knife instead of the refund. I did not hear back from him.

Instead I heard from Rycen who threatens to ban me if the refund is not given today. I had a sale thread going so I could get money in my paypal account for the refund and to pay for some more of my sons med bills. I explained all of this to both of them letting them know that I would be able to do the refund tomorrow that the banks are already closed so I wont be able to get the money in their till the morning.

In response a Paypal dispute was opened against me and Rycen banned my account.

No I have no way to sell the rest of the few remaining knives in my collection to get my son through this. I am very worried about him now that I cant make this extra money selling the rest of my collection

Did I deserve to be banned and treated like a scammer and a thief by this mod?

Sorry about all of the grammar errors I am shaking with worry and I dont know how I am going to tell my son that I can no longer afford his treatment.
 
Difficult situation to comment on. Some big personal/family issues involved that are driving your behavior. Understandable but maybe better choices could have been made. Regarding the sale, why did you spend that cash before even sending the knife? Did you keep in contact with the buyer to make sure he still wanted the knife?

Based strictly on what Over Kill states in his posts, in my opinion banning seems extreme. It doesn't seem Over Kill was trying to rip people off but just scrambling to raise cash and probably overwhelmed. If he commits to a date for the refund and gets it done the problem for Drift draft is resolved.
 
Over Kill had two weeks in total to complete this deal. He then had six days to refund or send the knife before he was banned. He blamed everyone from his mother, his brother, the seller and finally me for why he didn't complete the deal or refund the payment.

When a buyer has to resort to filing a claim with PayPal to get his money after two weeks then the seller no longer needs to be here. The buyer came to me after a week of no knife,no refund and no responses from Over Kill.
 
I bought a knife for $324 from Over Kill on May 27th and sent payment via Paypal that night. The next morning he PMed me this.

Over Kill said:
Hey, I was hoping to message you earlier before you sent the payment. The meaner is at my moms house and she is going through a move right now. I went over there to procure the blade for you and I could not find it. My mom remembers packing it up but we cant figure out which box it is in. I was going to ask that you stall the payment for a few days untill we get her things over to the new apartment so we could sort it out and find it. Would you like me to issue a refund untill it is ready for shipment or I could just hold the cash in my paypal untill the blade is ready to go. The move is thursday so I should have it ready for friday or saturday. Let me know how you would like to proceed. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Having good feedback, I decided to let him hold the money until the knife was found.

After no word from him for about 6 days it I sent him this on June 3rd.
drift draft said:
Not to rush your Mom, but any luck?

Thanks

After 2 more days of of still no response and seeing him on the Forum several times daily, I sent this on June 5th:

drift draft said:
Any luck?

I got this reply June 5th:
Over Kill said:
I am heading over there tomorrow. Ill let you know if I turn it up tomorrow. My mom has been sick and bedridden so she has not been able to look.

On June 7th after no word from him, I requested refund:
drift draft said:
Hi,
Can you refund payment until you find it? I would still like to buy it if you do.

Thanks.

Three days later on June 10th I get this:
Over Kill said:
I believe my brother found the meaner at my mothers new house. I wont be sure till tomorrow after I speak with him but he found 4 of my knives and two were small busses. In the beging the reason I asked you if I could refund the payment untill I found it was to avoid having you wait with money out.. Very sorry. I have the least patience out of anyone when waiting for knives to arrive so I understand. Ill get you the money refunded to you asap.

He insisted that this was my fault for not asking for a refund the first day. The rest of this took place on June 13th:
Over Kill said:
I dont know right now if you want a refund or the knife. Ever since ricen got involved I dont know what it is you want. What a nightmare. Do you remember in the begining when I asked you if I could refund you untill I foubd it and you told me no not necessary, well this is exactly why...

Until this point, neither cancer nor his son had been mentioned once:
Over Kill said:
Im really easy going pal and I dont like to put blame on people. I just wanted to let you know that the reason I wanted to refund you the day you payed me was to aboid exactly this. I mean getting the mod involved and shutting down my sake thread was pretty low. I am selling my collection to pay my sons med bill he has cancer and is going through kemo now. Now I need to figure out how im going to pay the next doc bill.

I want to be perfectly crystal clear with you now. Do you want the knife (which I had mentioned to you that my brother found it.) or do you want a refund.

So I give him another chance to send either one:
drift draft said:
I am very laid back myself. Turn the situation around and think about it that way. You said 3 or 4 days and you would hold the funds until you found it. If the knife/sheath is in the same condition as in the photos from your thread and you can ship today and PM me a tracking number Today, then send the knife.
If this isn't possible Today then send refund Today. If I don't get Tracking # or refund Today I will feel forced to take this up with Paypal.

He tells me he can't do either:
Over Kill said:
I need to get money into my bank so I can get it into my paypal. So either way it is going to be tomorrow. If you mod did not close my sale thread you would have most likely had your refund already. If you want to go and file a paypal claim I guess I cant stop you but dobt expect me to cooperate. You told me you were patient when I asked if could issue you a refund. I told you that I should probably find it in about 4-5 days. I did not tell you ill fibdit for certian in that time frame. Money is tight for me right now with my son being diagnosed with cancer about a month ago. I dont know if your a father or not but no father should have to watch their son dieing before them. Do what you gotta do. This is making me sick.

At this point I realized talking to him would get me nowhere so I contacted Paypal for a dispute.
Next time I looked he had been banned.

That is when the emails started.

1st email: Well, I hope your happy. You got me banned because of this. My son is probably going to die now and If he dies because I cant pay for his treatment you will be the first to hear about it.

2nd email: I want you to know he is my life and if he dies, well i know where you live.

Still no refund or knife! I gave him 16 days to do the right thing, and stand behind my decision to go through Paypal for a refund.

I'm very sorry for his hardships, but what would you guys have done?

drift draft
 
1st email: Well, I hope your happy. You got me banned because of this. My son is probably going to die now and If he dies because I cant pay for his treatment you will be the first to hear about it.

2nd email: I want you to know he is my life and if he dies, well i know where you live.

How would $200, (or however much the knife cost,) make the difference between being able to afford or not afford cancer treatments? I'm calling BS.
 
He could have done the refund through paypal and it would show as pending until the money got pulled from his bank account to cover it.
 
How would $200, (or however much the knife cost,) make the difference between being able to afford or not afford cancer treatments? I'm calling BS.

^^^ This. I just went through a year of cancer treatments, and one thing posted in every cancer center that I was in was a notice saying help was available for people who couldn't afford their treatment.
 
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