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[blanco112]

But guys I just need to experience all this hype lol. And besides if I don't like it what's the harm in selling it on the market for a 50 dollar loss? I don't see any issues...honestly it's a win-win in my eyes, seeing as I don't have a close enough local knife shop to go inspect one myself.

As long as you don't get around to doing anything you have set out to do here, you should have no problem selling with little loss.

 

[Peter Hartwig]

But guys I just need to experience all this hype lol. And besides if I don't like it what's the harm in selling it on the market for a 50 dollar loss? I don't see any issues...honestly it's a win-win in my eyes, seeing as I don't have a close enough local knife shop to go inspect one myself.

For that, all you need to do is pay the man at the window

 

[GermanyChris]

You will want to look to see if doing this will void your warranty, perhaps even ask crk. Part of what you are paying for is the quality of the company. I'm not sure it would be worth losing that backing for a couple hrc. Speaking of cost, this whole thing sounds expensive (heat treating, stonewashing, all the shipping and insurance). You will be adding a significant cost to an already expensive knife. Would not be worth it to me but I'm with the newer heat knives.

The OP doesn't want a Sebenza he wants to say he owns one.

 

[Aquaholicc]

The OP doesn't want a Sebenza he wants to say he owns one.

Ooooooo you might have hit the nail on the head my friend! Lol. I'm all honesty ..I'm excited to use it on my everyday task. You could say I'm a girl when it comes to materialistic things ..I only want the best tools/clothes/vehicles etc..

 

[Aquaholicc]

As long as you don't get around to doing anything you have set out to do here, you should have no problem selling with little loss.

Yeah I'm sure the heat treat and everything about the knife is fine..this is mainly just theoretical talk/bs'ing

 

[craytab]

The OP doesn't want a Sebenza he wants to say he owns one.

That might just be going on. It's really not all that complicated. Either you like what crk offers or you don't. The technical specs are what they are. Sometimes the only way to find out if you like it is to try it. Wanting to change everything about it before you try it seems a bit silly. When I bought my seb I knew what I was getting into because I did the research. No need for a bunch of threads or hemming and hawing. I knew i could sell it. I loved it though so now it is absolutely one knife I never plan on getting rid of.

 

[JNewell]

But guys I just need to experience all this hype lol. And besides if I don't like it what's the harm in selling it on the market for a 50 dollar loss? I don't see any issues...honestly it's a win-win in my eyes, seeing as I don't have a close enough local knife shop to go inspect one myself.

As long as you don't get around to doing anything you have set out to do here, you should have no problem selling with little loss.

It's hard to guess accurately with a b@stardized, oops, customized , knife, but I'd bet you'd see a lot more than $50 loss on your overall cost. Most people will see those changes and move on. The people who don't are probably going to apply a noticeable discount for the uncertainty factor. Of course, you could get lucky...

 

[adamlau]

Send it in to Paul Bos or Peters' Heat Treating. Consult with them first. I would be interested in the outcome. Perhaps CRK would be willing to reapply the stonewash for a nominal fee. You never know until you try and ask. Add to the knowledge base, for better or worse. I say do it .

 

[JNewell]

Bos obviously isn't the only guy who hardens blades, but he is one of the best-recognized "brands" in that area. If Bos will do it, and puts his mark on the blade, I'd reconsider what I said above about resale value - you might do pretty well if you resold the knife. I'd be interested in hearing more about that it you go that way, too.

 

[Aquaholicc]

Send it in to Paul Bos or Peters' Heat Treating. Consult with them first. I would be interested in the outcome. Perhaps CRK would be willing to reapply the stonewash for a nominal fee. You never know until you try and ask. Add to the knowledge base, for better or worse. I say do it .

At least you support me and my endeavors lol. I'll probabaly won't do any of this I just like hearing feedback and whatnot.

 

[Aquaholicc]

Bos obviously isn't the only guy who hardens blades, but he is one of the best-recognized "brands" in that area. If Bos will do it, and puts his mark on the blade, I'd reconsider what I said above about resale value - you might do pretty well if you resold the knife. I'd be interested in hearing more about that it you go that way, too.

Don't worry I'll keep you guys posted on what I end up doing with it. Ordering it in about a week

 

[TTTis]

Here is my advice and reasoning from a guy who actually went through re-hardening and using those blades for years after. To start, yes it was worth it at the time. But I first used the sebenza and made sure it was the knife for me in every other respect. After use is when I discovered I'd like a harder blade. Many people here would say it isn't worth the time. But when you find a folder with the tolerances, action, lock up, smoothness and simplicity of the seb but the blade is a little soft... you look for solutions. What other knife has the tolerances or action at the same price? As a lefty, the options were even smaller maybe non existent.

So I searched out Paul Bos and for the cost of 17 bucks I had a much better performing blade. After spending 350 on a knife, 17 bucks isn't too overwhelming. However getting it re-stonewashed of course adds cost, I just did my own refinish. I don't own the knives any more as I have insingos now (re-hardened blades were drops). I disclosed the changes to the buyers and lost about 60 per knife, not bad at all.

Having said all that, the new sebenzas heat treat is nice. Buy one, use it for a while and go through some sharpenings. If it is YOUR knife and the ht is still too soft you could send it out to Bos (Paul Farner now runs day to day). But then if you don't like the knife you can sell it stock before modifying it and not loose a bunch on it. That is my advice, but I don't think you need to modify the newer blades at all.

 

[Peter Hartwig]

^^^ I agree-if the knife is perfect except for the HT then do it. They are great knives and if that is all you need to make it a keeper fine. 1st make sure you like the knife & or HT.

 

[Aquaholicc]

Here is my advice and reasoning from a guy who actually went through re-hardening and using those blades for years after. To start, yes it was worth it at the time. But I first used the sebenza and made sure it was the knife for me in every other respect. After use is when I discovered I'd like a harder blade. Many people here would say it isn't worth the time. But when you find a folder with the tolerances, action, lock up, smoothness and simplicity of the seb but the blade is a little soft... you look for solutions. What other knife has the tolerances or action at the same price? As a lefty, the options were even smaller maybe non existent.

So I searched out Paul Bos and for the cost of 17 bucks I had a much better performing blade. After spending 350 on a knife, 17 bucks isn't too overwhelming. However getting it re-stonewashed of course adds cost, I just did my own refinish. I don't own the knives any more as I have insingos now (re-hardened blades were drops). I disclosed the changes to the buyers and lost about 60 per knife, not bad at all.

Having said all that, the new sebenzas heat treat is nice. Buy one, use it for a while and go through some sharpenings. If it is YOUR knife and the ht is still too soft you could send it out to Bos (Paul Farner now runs day to day). But then if you don't like the knife you can sell it stock before modifying it and not loose a bunch on it. That is my advice, but I don't think you need to modify the newer blades at all.

That's exactly my thought ..but everyone hear seems to think I'm dumb for voicing my opinions/actions I may do to the blade. Good to know you've been through exactly what I'm thinking.

But like you said ..I was going to USE the knife first lol. I'm not going to open the package and immediately put it right back in a box to go get it hardened hahah.

 

[Casinostocks]

^^^ I agree-if the knife is perfect except for the HT then do it. They are great knives and if that is all you need to make it a keeper fine. 1st make sure you like the knife & or HT.

Not just HT but also the out of the box edge sharpness, although this varies from model to model. Inevitably, those of us who are users of our knives will have to sharpen our blades soon or later and will have to "ugly" them up but from my own limited experiences with a handful of CRKs so far, I have learned that there are many more merits and mitigating features about CRKs which have won me over their aforementioned "weaknesses". That said, I have only been looking for their newer HT because I seek eventual users as I don't collect them.

 

[Mo2]

if it was re-hardened that would go for more money imho. especially if the name BOS was attached to it. only a fool would say otherwise. some of you guys and your letter opening and safe queens.

 

[Aquaholicc]

Not just HT but also the out of the box edge sharpness, although this varies from model to model. Inevitably, those of us who are users of our knives will have to sharpen our blades soon or later and will have to "ugly" them up but from my own limited experiences with a handful of CRKs so far, I have learned that there are many more merits and mitigating features about CRKs which have won me over their aforementioned "weaknesses". That said, I have only been looking for their newer HT because I seek eventual users as I don't collect them.

I don't know about you but I don't mess with any factory edge on any knife. I find them very inferior compared to what I can do with my Edge Pro/strop.

if it was re-hardened that would go for more money imho. especially if the name BOS was attached to it. only a fool would say otherwise. some of you guys and your letter opening and safe queens.

Lol I agree man, I won't speak for everyone but I feel like 80% of the members on here are just on this site to collect/open their wives mail and or packages with their knives lol.

Giving it a "better Ht" will only make it a better tool..after all that's at least what I consider all my knives..tools not keep sakes

 

[Casinostocks]

I don't know about you but I don't mess with any factory edge on any knife. I find them very inferior compared to what I can do with my Edge Pro/strop.

TBT, I would be absolutely INSANE to alter the factory edge on mt Carothers knives

Admittedly my taste in knives is extremely limited to a few select brands and certain makes within those limited brands, but short of perhaps stropping, I haven't had to mess with with my Spyderco Military folders either. The CRKs have only been the ones which didn't pass mustard with me so far as their factory edges go, but by the same token, I love everything with their primary bevel and everything else which people, including yours truly marvel about. In fact, my Umnumzaan sees more action in and out of my pocket despite the fact that it has a fat ol' blade! I luv that knife!

P.S. I don't use guided systems but getting better with freehand. It's an art which I like to get better at so if I fudge up a $135 blade, so be it. That's how I roll (says confidently knowing that CRK carries sub blades )

 

[craytab]

The "you guys don't use your knives" argument won't make you many friends around here and the ones it does you may not want. It is rather silly actually.

 

[Aquaholicc]

The "you guys don't use your knives" argument won't make you many friends around here and the ones it does you may not want. It is rather silly actually.

I mean hey someone is going to make the task I ask my steel to perform look like women work as well. Just simply stating some use harder than others.

It's like me driving 45 in a 35mph zone may seem absurd to you but I do it everyday type of deal?
Last thing I mean by it, is any offense lol.