SanRenMu 710

[shecky]

$8 knife +$4 shipping + XX hours*whatever dollar/hr of your labor. Voila! You now have a knife at a price of US made Skyline or better. Did I mentioned you need to tighten the pivot to remove that side-to-side play? After I did it, it became a beast to open single handed. Doesn't the rust in the handle fresh out of the box make you wonder the quality of material used? Let alone unmarked blade steel, yes, I knew from the seller it was supposed to be the higher end 8cr13mov which is better than some marked "surgical stainless".

Again, I never meant to dismiss the worth of it to be a nice cheap beater if you need one. I would never gotten myself buying SRM if not because of all the hype around it, and end up to prove personally once more that I still get what I paid for. The existence of crappy overpriced "high-end" products doesn't automatically make cheaper as crappy products superior. End of story.

Interesting that my Skyline has an off centered blade, and the edge rests on the plastic when closed. It does seem clear that your experience is not typical. But I sense you're not really interested in finding out.

The hype over SRM knives seems to exist for good reason. Good enough for the likes of Spyderco, at least.

 

[TheBishop]

Now this may be going too far!!!

That Navy, thought it looks like a smaller Police, feels exactly like a Byrd Cara Cara type knife. Everything about it, thickness, weight, overall feel.
Not bad, I think around $15, but I'd swear its a Byrd knife in your hand.

The SRM feel a bit more refined.

 

[TheBishop]

I got that 939 myself because I saw the potential to turn it into a real gem. As it turns out thats one of my newest favorite knives right up there with the Para Military 2. Especially now since I worked my magic on it!

I flipped the clip after making one to fit it and then drilled and threaded me some holes. Then I gave the blade a better splinter picker point and cut the old clip off at the first bend to make a lock stop to prevent over extension problems by hyper flexing it the wrong way. In the end I'm pretty happy with this one.

STR

Nice work to that knife!
I ordered it on your take on it, 2 days of carry, very happy.
If they did what you did, would be a killer blade for EDC.

 

[TheBishop]

I have their small axis model (3rd knife in the pic). They managed to copy the real thing 100%, smooth opening and closing with zero bladeplay. (I experienced a very minimal vertical bladeplay at the Ganzo Snody clone.)

Vortex, whats the 2nd knife down, the land?

 

[oxbld]

Vortex, whats the 2nd knife down, the land?

Land knives are also made by SRM. That is a 908.

 

[EMT_Lee]

These Sanrenmu threads amaze me... people actually try to come on here and say that the Sanrenmu 710 is not a Sebenza knock-off. That's insane. It's -obviously- a Sebenza knock-off. Note I didn't say "clone". It's not trying to represent itself as a Sebbie. It's just a cheapy knock-off.

P.S. Dont start telling me how it isn't a "cheapy" and how the quality is so great for $10. I don't care. It's a cheapy knock-off. If that hurts your feelings, sorry.

 

[TheBishop]

Land knives are also made by SRM. That is a 908.

Thanks oxbold.
I like the blade shape and handle.

 

[kreole]

These Sanrenmu threads amaze me... people actually try to come on here and say that the Sanrenmu 710 is not a Sebenza knock-off. That's insane. It's -obviously- a Sebenza knock-off. Note I didn't say "clone". It's not trying to represent itself as a Sebbie. It's just a cheapy knock-off.

P.S. Dont start telling me how it isn't a "cheapy" and how the quality is so great for $10. I don't care. It's a cheapy knock-off. If that hurts your feelings, sorry.

kinda seems like you're the one with hurt feelings

 

[ThePharce]

These Sanrenmu threads amaze me... people actually try to come on here and say that the Sanrenmu 710 is not a Sebenza knock-off. That's insane. It's -obviously- a Sebenza knock-off. Note I didn't say "clone". It's not trying to represent itself as a Sebbie. It's just a cheapy knock-off.

P.S. Dont start telling me how it isn't a "cheapy" and how the quality is so great for $10. I don't care. It's a cheapy knock-off. If that hurts your feelings, sorry.

Have you ever held one? Probably not. Have you ever seen one in person? Probably not.

Yep, it looks a little like a Sebenza...great. Obviously, to you, that's a great sin. Guess what, it's a nice knife. It isn't a $300 handmade knife, but it is a nice one nonetheless.

Since you haven't ever used or likely even held one, I submit that you have no idea what you're talking about....


...and I don't care if it hurts your feelings or not.

 

[ThePharce]

Vortex, whats the 2nd knife down, the land?

On the axis lock, I doubt it's actually a copy. More likely it's a holdover license from them having made some models for Benchmade.

 

[TheBishop]

These Sanrenmu threads amaze me... people actually try to come on here and say that the Sanrenmu 710 is not a Sebenza knock-off. That's insane. It's -obviously- a Sebenza knock-off. Note I didn't say "clone". It's not trying to represent itself as a Sebbie. It's just a cheapy knock-off.

P.S. Dont start telling me how it isn't a "cheapy" and how the quality is so great for $10. I don't care. It's a cheapy knock-off. If that hurts your feelings, sorry.

Brother, whatever makes you happy, go with it.
Everything has it's use.
I don't need a $100 Kukri to do the job of a $10 Machete.
My Nice knives have their place, as do these. I doubt these will see the red velvet case, though some of them wouldn't feel unwelcome or out of place. Some are good. Have you tried them? Have you said "this is crap for $7!"
A burger cost $7 dollars, what did you get for it ... the runs.

I'd say most that have bought and posted understand they are not the "equivalent" of anything that coast 10X or more the price.
Every tool has its place.

Do I need to purchase everything Snap-On, or can my needs for a certain purpose make do with Kobalt?

 

[TheBishop]

Have you ever held one? Probably not. Have you ever seen one in person? Probably not.

Yep, it looks a little like a Sebenza...great. Obviously, to you, that's a great sin. Guess what, it's a nice knife. It isn't a $300 handmade knife, but it is a nice one nonetheless.

Since you haven't ever used or likely even held one, I submit that you have no idea what you're talking about....


...and I don't care if it hurts your feelings or not.

I think, even though no one is saying that they are of the "same" quality of a $300 knife, they have empty pocket syndrome is all.
If it 50% as good, and I think in most cases you call that a safe bet, its got to make your balls shrivel a bit when someone paid $7

Stop the hate folks, its discussion and the market and tech in action.
It doesn't care how you spent your money, nor do I.

 

[EMT_Lee]

kinda seems like you're the one with hurt feelings

The only feeling I have is disappointment that knife nuts would sell out so cheaply.

Have you ever held one? Probably not. Have you ever seen one in person? Probably not.

Yep, it looks a little like a Sebenza...great. Obviously, to you, that's a great sin. Guess what, it's a nice knife. It isn't a $300 handmade knife, but it is a nice one nonetheless.

Since you haven't ever used or likely even held one, I submit that you have no idea what you're talking about....


...and I don't care if it hurts your feelings or not.

Boy, that's a lot of assumptions. All of them wrong. I have held one (which, of course, means I've seen it... strike two), at a flea market actually. I felt it fit in quite well there. It's a flea market knife. The fit and finish was "ok" and the grinds were uneven. The lockup was "ok", but it had some vertical play. Overall, not bad... for a cheapy knock-off. I would not call it a "nice" knife. Our tastes must vary quite a bit. Now, I haven't owned one, so I have not put one through it's paces. I never will. Can you even tell me what steel is used in the blades?

I'll refrain from making my own assumptions about you.

Oh, and yes... knocking off a Sebenza -is- a great sin to me. Obviously. I love CRK, and I dislike seeing these. YMMV. Enjoy your knock-offs.

 

[EMT_Lee]

I think, even though no one is saying that they are of the "same" quality of a $300 knife, they have empty pocket syndrome is all.
If it 50% as good, and I think in most cases you call that a safe bet, its got to make your balls shrivel a bit when someone paid $7

Stop the hate folks, its discussion and the market and tech in action.
It doesn't care how you spent your money, nor do I.

Empty pocket syndrome? We're not the ones buying $7 knives, buddy.

 

[ThePharce]

The only feeling I have is disappointment that knife nuts would sell out so cheaply.




Boy, that's a lot of assumptions. All of them wrong. I have held one (which, of course, means I've seen it... strike two), at a flea market actually. I felt it fit in quite well there. It's a flea market knife. The fit and finish was "ok" and the grinds were uneven. The lockup was "ok", but it had some vertical play. Overall, not bad... for a cheapy knock-off. I would not call it a "nice" knife. Our tastes must vary quite a bit. Now, I haven't owned one, so I have not put one through it's paces. I never will. Can you even tell me what steel is used in the blades?

I'll refrain from making my own assumptions about you.

Oh, and yes... knocking off a Sebenza -is- a great sin to me. Obviously. I love CRK, and I dislike seeing these. YMMV. Enjoy your knock-offs.

I must have gotten a very different example than what you describe

The fit and finish on mine is as good as Cold Steel and Boker knives I've purchased over the summer. Grind is VERY even.

Lock up is tighter than my benchmade griptilian w/ no vertical or horizontal play.

It's a nice knife. No one here is claiming that it's a Sebenza.


BTW, the steel used is 8Cr13MoV. It isn't San Mai III, but it's decent enough steel.


Wow, a company pulled design cues off another popular product. The HORRAH!

 

[kawr]

The only feeling I have is disappointment that knife nuts would sell out so cheaply.




Boy, that's a lot of assumptions. All of them wrong. I have held one (which, of course, means I've seen it... strike two), at a flea market actually. I felt it fit in quite well there. It's a flea market knife. The fit and finish was "ok" and the grinds were uneven. The lockup was "ok", but it had some vertical play. Overall, not bad... for a cheapy knock-off. I would not call it a "nice" knife. Our tastes must vary quite a bit. Now, I haven't owned one, so I have not put one through it's paces. I never will. Can you even tell me what steel is used in the blades?

I'll refrain from making my own assumptions about you.

Oh, and yes... knocking off a Sebenza -is- a great sin to me. Obviously. I love CRK, and I dislike seeing these. YMMV. Enjoy your knock-offs.

I own a Large Sebenza 21 as well as 3 710's and I dont understand why you're so angry. Anybody with a brain can see that the 710 is different knife from the Sebenza. It's similar but its not blatantly trying to trick people into thinking its a Sebbie and fool them into buying them. You can instantly tell them apart and people know exactly what they are getting. Now if Sanrenmu were trying to pretend these were actual Sebbies and selling them as such then I would be outraged. That is obviously not the case here.

 

[nc527]

The only feeling I have is disappointment that knife nuts would sell out so cheaply.




Boy, that's a lot of assumptions. All of them wrong. I have held one (which, of course, means I've seen it... strike two), at a flea market actually. I felt it fit in quite well there. It's a flea market knife. The fit and finish was "ok" and the grinds were uneven. The lockup was "ok", but it had some vertical play. Overall, not bad... for a cheapy knock-off. I would not call it a "nice" knife. Our tastes must vary quite a bit. Now, I haven't owned one, so I have not put one through it's paces. I never will. Can you even tell me what steel is used in the blades?

I'll refrain from making my own assumptions about you.

Oh, and yes... knocking off a Sebenza -is- a great sin to me. Obviously. I love CRK, and I dislike seeing these. YMMV. Enjoy your knock-offs.

Dude, chill out. And I do know what steel is used;8cr13mov, which is the same steel used in the spyderco byrd line. I happen to think that if SRM can make a knife for $7 that has 1/4 of the quality of a sebbie, then why should I pay $300 for the CRK? I think Ill buy the SRM, and save my $293 and buy a few other knives, perhaps even some more "evil knockoffs" as you refer to them. Ever stop and think perhaps some people might buy one of thease, and eventually buy the "real" knife?

 

[EMT_Lee]

I own a Large Sebenza 21 as well as 3 710's and I dont understand why you're so angry. Anybody with a brain can see that the 710 is different knife from the Sebenza. It's similar but its not blatantly trying to trick people into thinking its a Sebbie and fool them into buying them. You can instantly tell them apart and people know exactly what they are getting. Now if Sanrenmu were trying to pretend these were actual Sebbies and selling them as such then I would be outraged. That is obviously not the case here.

You should reread my first post, where I address the "clone vs knockoff" thing. Thanks.

 

[EMT_Lee]

Dude, chill out. And I do know what steel is used;8cr13mov, which is the same steel used in the spyderco byrd line. I happen to think that if SRM can make a knife for $7 that has 1/4 of the quality of a sebbie, then why should I pay $300 for the CRK? I think Ill buy the SRM, and save my $293 and buy a few other knives, perhaps even some more "evil knockoffs" as you refer to them. Ever stop and think perhaps some people might buy one of thease, and eventually buy the "real" knife?

You probably shouldn't pay $300 for a Sebenza. If you find a large Sebenza for $300, you probably should send me the link.

Also, I didn't refer to them as "evil knockoffs". I called them cheapy knock-offs.

 

[Atmosphere]

Ever stop and think perhaps some people might buy one of thease, and eventually buy the "real" knife?

Eventually bought a Sebenza *ever*? Maybe.

Bought a Sebenza specifically because they owned a SanRenMu 710? I'd be more than a little surprised. If the person isn't a "knife person" it enters the realm of "never gonna happen."

Muuuuuch more likely is a person who owns a Sebenza buying a 710 just to take a look. It's easier to spend $10 than it is to spend over $300.