Schrade Extreme Survival

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Tenbeers said:
Mistwalker, I feel bad about some of the comments made toward your character. Don't let it affect your posting more reviews. There was a time when pieces of this type could be found in some of the knife and survival mags. It reminds me of articles in the old American Survival Guide. A bit harder to find this kind now. Ever thought about doing something for print?

Keep up the good work!

Ten
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Thanks, glad you liked the review. Don't worry, lol, I know who and what I am people's personal opinions of me are inconsequential.
 
It's a shame that a few nasty people feel compelled to attack everyone who isn't in their little cult. They just look foolish and childish in their juvenile attacks. Your review was very much appreciated by most readers, I'm sure.
 
Horn Dog said:
It's a shame that a few nasty people feel compelled to attack everyone who isn't in their little cult. They just look foolish and childish in their juvenile attacks. Your review was very much appreciated by most readers, I'm sure.
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Not nearly as childish and foolish as those who defend shills.
 
Horn Dog said:
It's a shame that a few nasty people feel compelled to attack everyone who isn't in their little cult. They just look foolish and childish in their juvenile attacks. Your review was very much appreciated by most readers, I'm sure.
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Thanks,
 
markksr said:
Not nearly as childish and foolish as those who defend shills.
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Who is the shill? I'm certainly not getting any compensation out of this. You can say what ever you need to to make yourself fell better about it but your accusations are baseless and false, as for your personal opinions of me.... :jerkit:
 
CaptInsano said:
How do you figure?
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Based, in part, on this comment from another thread where the OP admits that Morgan Taylor of Taylor Brands is sending him knives for evaluation...

mistwalker said:
This is one of three new S&W designs that will be in the upcomming 2009 catalog that I have been sent for and testing and reviewing by Morgan Taylor of Taylor brands.
...I am also testing a fourth knife at this time
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mistwalker said:
Who is the shill? I'm certainly not getting any compensation out of this. You can say what ever you need to to make yourself fell better about it but your accusations are baseless and false, as for your personal opinions of me.... :jerkit:
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markksr said:
Based, in part, on this comment from another thread where the OP admits that Morgan Taylor is sending him knives for evaluation...
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I'd say that will define a shill.
 
whats funny is that while it seems that Taylor has ripped-off the design of CRK, he has also ripped this guy off by having him do all their R&D instead of paying people to do it or doing it themselves.

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mistwalker said:
Who is the shill? I'm certainly not getting any compensation out of this. You can say what ever you need to to make yourself fell better about it but your accusations are baseless and false, as for your personal opinions of me.... :jerkit:
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markksr said:
Based, in part, on this comment from another thread where the OP admits that Morgan Taylor of Taylor Brands is sending him knives for evaluation...
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markksr said:
Based, in part, on this comment from another thread where the OP admits that Morgan Taylor of Taylor Brands is sending him knives for evaluation...
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Yep...you asked that question and I answered it. Your question and my answer are as follows.

markksr said:
Based on this statement and your subsequent shilling of other Taylor brand knives, I must wonder what exactly is the nature of your relationship with that company?
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Well…I have no real relationship with Taylor LLC other than that of a pleased and inquisitive customer who wrote to tell them so and to ask some questions. I wanted to know what kind of steel was used, and if they had any intentions of making a shorter version or other variations of the extreme survival knife because, while the E,S. is definitely a tough as nails knife, a 7.5 inch blade is a bit much for EDC carry doing research in the bush. Also that as tough as this knife was a shorter one would in my opinion make for an even stronger knife by allowing less leverage on the blade when prying or digging which I tend to do a lot of in the field. I walk for miles in the bush and I like to limit how much I take in as I am always bringing things back out for use or study back at camp or back home. I like having a shorter stout knife that has a thicker than usual blade which gives it the weight to chop like a larger knife. For the last several years my EDC fixed blade has been and still is my SOG Bowie which is as always right here beside me. Morgan Taylor wrote me to say thanks for my response. In the return email I mentioned that I had done a short review on the E.S. on a wilderness site that I write on to share what I had learned about it with some friends. He , I assume, read what I had written, and then wrote back telling me of some new knives coming out with shorter thicker blades and asked if I’d be interested in checking them out in the field and giving him some feed back. Naturally I said of course. The demonstration shown in this thread was done with one of them yes, but is by far no knife review. The material in this thread is given as a demonstration of useable, and possibly even life saving wilderness skills which mentions specific attributes of the type knife needed and attributes of the knife used. Those attributes mentioned would apply to any knife of similar make-up. This just happens to be the one I used at the time. If you are interested in a review of this knife I will go ahead and tell you now as I have already told Mr. Taylor. That the blade design is very tough and good for rough work but the clearance holes in the tang and G-10 handle scales are a bit over-sized causing the handle scales to prematurely loosen. And that the edge retention of the 440 stainless wasn’t as good as the 1095 used on the Schrade knife I had been testing for possible future carry in emergency kits. Now having said this it is only fair to also add that I did beat the heck out of just the very tip of that knife while pushing on the handle with all the weight of my 6”-2” 260 pound body. A lot of more costly knives would have fared no better. And in response to my input, Mr. Taylor said he would see what could be done to remedy these problems. I am still evaluating the knife but it’s really not for me as an EDC. But it is a damned good beater blade to keep around.

Just to mention one fact. I own SOG knives and a CRK. I have written to both in the past and waited over a week just to get a reply from some lower ranking desk jockey that actually knew little about the questions I was asking that never got answered to my satisfaction. It took till the next day to get a reply to my letter to Schrade.

By the way, I don't intend to argue semantics with the maturity challenged but I'm not on Taylor LLC's payroll (I'll be sure to let you know if that changes) and I mention the good and the bad as I personally see it, and in any case the plural doesn't apply.



The above does not imply shilling simply newness to this Forum and how some of you think. If I were to ever decide to I needed to stoop so low as to "shill" for anyone sir I'd have more sense than to go about it in this fashion.

Jeeeez people, is lying so much the norm as to cause simple honesty to be treated like some sort of crime.
 
mistwalker said:
Just to mention one fact. I own SOG knives and a CRK. I have written to both in the past and waited over a week just to get a reply from some lower ranking desk jockey that actually knew little about the questions I was asking that never got answered to my satisfaction. It took till the next day to get a reply to my letter to Schrade.
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There is no Schrade, just a shadow company now. And unfortunately, this knife is another reason why I will never purchase a "new schrade".
 
markksr said:
Based, in part, on this comment from another thread where the OP admits that Morgan Taylor of Taylor Brands is sending him knives for evaluation...
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I don't think his evaluation is the problem here. People have a problem with:
1. The design being a cheap copy of a CR knife.
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2. The fact that Noss's test graded the knife better than Chris Reeves' version.

Neither one comes close to making mistwalker more childish than some of the tikes in this thread even if he is sent knives to test by the manufacturer. It calls his review into question, but it wasn't such a great review anyway. It basically said it was pretty good for a $50 knife, good at some things and poor at others.
 
Sad that a simple review of a copycat knife can twist and disrupt a few ego's...pathetic,...what piss's me off more is Dryers ice cream copied Ben and Jerry's round container, now I have to look twice to make sure I got the right stuff.
 
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