Sebenza 31 Lock Rock?!

Discussion in 'Chris Reeve Knives' started by HikingIsLife, Mar 16, 2020.

  1. Caffiend

    Caffiend

    70
    Jan 15, 2016
    I think the large Inkosis sold at Blade 2016 and maybe the first run after that all had the groove
     
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  2. kidcongo

    kidcongo

    Jan 12, 2013
    Ok thanks for that. For some reason I thought it only ever appeared on the smalls.
     
  3. willard0341

    willard0341 Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 18, 2013
    I just tried the flex on the table with my small regular, got a little bit of movement.
    Cant wait for the carbon fiber inlay small with the blue stud and new steel!!! Sexy!
    . PhotoPictureResizer_20200327_015045_copy_3024x2268.jpg i put a dab of milk in my coffee this morning for a change and it tastes delicious
    Just wanted to add most of us end up like our fathers (whether we want to or not) and i have confidence in Tim he will maintain the integrity of his inherited company
     
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  4. pikers88

    pikers88 Gold Member Gold Member

    58
    Dec 31, 2019
    I just tested my Inoski and there was just the slightest bit of movement. I never noticed it before so I'm not going to worry about it now. Decided to grab a small 31, we'll see how it goes.
     
  5. Ptman2000

    Ptman2000 Gold Member Gold Member

    516
    Feb 8, 2014
    After all the info in this thread and hearing what every that’s to say, I’ve decided to keep the 31 that I received.

    overall, I love the new inlays and the knife is super smooth!
     
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  6. Steely_Gunz

    Steely_Gunz Got the Khukuri fevah Moderator

    May 9, 2002
    I can't detect any movement on my Large Inkosi. It's a very recent manufacture. I guess there might be some, maybe, but I generally dont put enough spine-down pressure on a knife to flex titanium.
     
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  7. Sharp & Fiery

    Sharp & Fiery Always Embellish Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    May 14, 2012
    Unless he turns out like his mother...
     
  8. nyefmaker

    nyefmaker Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 29, 2008
    Too funny
     
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  9. johnnytoxin

    johnnytoxin Gold Member Gold Member

    May 24, 2010
    I got sick and tired of my Zaan flexing his lock in front of me and my family like he’s the boss or something. In my pocket he goes thinking he’s all bad ass. I’ll show him. Whipped him out and forced him to work, ya I made him my biznatch. Came back inside, slammed him on the table and the douche bag immediately starts flexing his lock again. What a friggin tool. (I caught my wife staring at him)
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  10. peppercorn

    peppercorn Regular Dude Gold Member

    Jan 31, 2009
    I had some extra time on my hands yesterday, no idea why.....
    Decided to do this table top test on a few of my frame locks and was able to produce similar results, as seen in the video, with all of them.
    These included:
    Two Umnumzaan, old style pivot
    Two large regulars
    Two large and one small 21
    One large inkosi
    A Calavera cutlery, not sure of the model
    Reate Torrent
    Kizer

    I realized two things:
    I have more frame lock knives than I will ever need.
    This phenomenon doesn’t bother me in the slightest as all of the locks held firm. And, growing up with slip joint knives I learned early on to apply pressure to the back of a knife handle when cutting, which I have continued to do with these ‘modern’ locking knives.

    If I were in the market for a 31 I would buy it without hesitation. After watching the video and looking at my own knives I really see no great distinction.
     
  11. 353

    353 Basic Member Basic Member

    Feb 20, 2015
    Well I REALLY do(see great distinction), my small 21s is rock solid if I try doing this exercise..

    So my advice is; hang on and check out what Tim and the crew do to make this better.
     
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  12. jackghobbies

    jackghobbies

    46
    Jan 25, 2020
    I own the Large Sebenza 31 and I can attest first hand to your spot on comment "Its the lockbar itself that is flexing in whatever direction it decides to flex". I can't say if this is, or will be, an issue or it's by design, since I'm not the manufacturer. I have had other separate concerns, however.
    I can't, and don't want to try, to prove if the following statement is accurate, but I think you are also correct wrt "the blade tang and ceramic ball never lose contact or move in anyway".
    And full disclosure, I am one of those guys with a Youtube channel and a few episodes on the Large Sebenza 31.
    And like everyone, I have a belly button and opinions ;-)
    Probably find my channel in my profile or if people are OK with not considering it spam I can provide a link to the Sebenza playlist and also happy to shoot some videos for people if it helps both CRK and others. Stay well and safe everyone!
     
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  13. cbr1000

    cbr1000

    Jan 31, 2013
    Thank you, I would appreciate a link to 31 videos and since it's on topic I don't think most people would consider it spam.
     
  14. Ad58

    Ad58

    324
    May 23, 2005
    I still don't understand how you can find that lockrock.....
     
  15. jackghobbies

    jackghobbies

    46
    Jan 25, 2020
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    Yeah, I read 11 pages here on this subject and was still unclear until I tried it myself on my new Large Sebenza 31.
    Sure enough, I do get what I'll call some integral lock arm flexing while putting down/up pressures on the Knife blade spine.
    Mine does not exhibit the vertical blade movement I saw someone else demonstrating, but I'm not willing to apply body weight up/down pressure on my blade spine while holding the handle stationary.
    In fairness to the video post I saw, I can't tell exact what amount/type of pressure the video I saw demonstrated.
    ugh, this is too hard to explain in words.
    Let me do a quick video to show/reproduce the "lock rock". I'll post it on my channel in the next couple hours because it's hard to explain in text imho.
    btw, not trying to drive people to my channel to get subscribers via a vid, but if a picture is worth a thousand words, a video must be worth more ;-)
    I would like to know if this is a "normal"/by design thing on the 31's or other CRK models like the Inkosi, so after my post, comments here would be awesome to help me decide if I should write CRK or if this is normal and maybe others just have more/less tolerances/experiences.
    I also have a small 21 on loan so I will also show/check that on the video and pull out some others, like my Pilar or something else with a similar design to compare too.
     
  16. bmilleker

    bmilleker Gold Member Gold Member

    455
    Nov 26, 2012
    In those 11 pages, it was noted many times that CRK is calling this normal. But they are looking at tweaking it.
     
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  17. jackghobbies

    jackghobbies

    46
    Jan 25, 2020
    "Lock Rock" video. Hope this helps what I understand the discussion to be based on. Stay well and safe everyone:
     
  18. cannelbrae

    cannelbrae

    31
    May 5, 2019
    My small Inkosi exhibits the same behavior show in the video. I hadn't noticed until testing just now and in no way will it impact my use of the knife.
     
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  19. Dcdavis

    Dcdavis Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 13, 2018
    In the video I posted it’s more pressure on the spine of that 21 that anyone should be applying in normal correct use of a folding knife. Like I had stated before in many years of using/working and owning CRKs I never knew this existed. I continue to use them with no hesitation or second guessing their build quality
     

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