Sebenza Clone

MGF said:
Just ordered an Alias II from New Graham Knives at $168.75, plus shipping of $5.95, for a total of $174.70.

This will be my most expensive knife to date. Frankly, if the thing is "the poor man's Sebenza," I'll be delighted.

Will report back in a couple of weeks.
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I could not find it on their website. Did you call them directly? If they are selling them at that price it would be the cheapest price I could find. All googled sources start the Alias ll at $200 and up!
 
Went to their site at http://www.newgraham.com/
Bradley Cutlery is on the far right of the page, about 2/3 down.
Orderered it last night. Got an e-mail today saying they're out of stock but expect to have some late this week and will ship then.
Today, I see they're listing it as sold out.
I'd give 'em call. Maybe they'll get enough in this week to offer 'em again.
 
DaveH said:
I think this knife would make a good passaround. Unofotunately I have 4 or 5 I'm trying to finish or get started. If anyone else wants to start one for this knife I'd be ehappy to give advice. :cool:
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How about I see if they will donate one for a passaround?
 
see if they will donate one for a passaround?
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That's an excellent idea. I didn't have contact info for Bradley Cutelry.

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Danny your email is bouncin like a red rubber ball. I have the company passaround enticement spiel if you want it.
 
One of the best design features of the Sebenza imo is the pivot bushing. Does the Bradley use one?


***Nevermind... I just found their website and it states "adjustable pivot screw"
 
Blue SKy, that's an excellent question and it has been brought up mnay times before, yet there's no answer.

I'll take a guess and say there isn't.
 
I just gave them a call. they're going to have to check with engineering to see if it has a pivot bushing.
 
OK, Brad from the company called me back. Thanks Brad!

No, their knives do not have the bushing like CRK. He explained that they liked to let their customers adjust as needed.

My personal opinion, is that without the bushing, it's not in the same league as CRK, but instead with the Buck/Mayo, Spyderco ATR, etc. Which is certainly great place to be. I suppose it's up to each person to determine their own price/value/feature point, and if a bushing and what it represents matters to them.
 
I am thinking about donating mine, but I am scared of being out the $200 I paid. Is there some way this is done to make sure I don't get a broken knife back? Let me know.
 
USAFSP, hold on to it for now. We're still in the early stages. I can tell you from personal experience if you are at all uncomfortabe with sending your knifeout on passaround, don't do it.
 
Got my prototype Alias I from NGK today.
Solid knife! Everything the 750 Pinnacle shoulda been but wasn't.

I realize the production version has a tip up/tip down option, but the proto doesn't. The blade edge is scary sharp, but kinda rough and unpolished. Still I think it's a helluvalotta knife for the money.
 
Well if 20 people chip in 10 dollars I will send it in for evaluation by everyone lastly to end up in Cliff's hands and then we can choose a number for someone to win it. I am up for that. I can just buy another one after that. Atleast this way you loose 10 dollars to rent it for 3 days and maybe you can win it when the test is over.
 
I thought you were talking about this one..
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$2.99 rip off knife..
 
To be fair, not many knives have the bushing feature of the Sebenza. The only one I can think of is the Scott Cook Lochsa. But to me the important factor is if they will make a left hand version for me?
 
The knife might be decent looking if it didn't have the gigantic BRADLEY stamp on the blade.
 
Mid West Guns and Knives is the distributor they are talking about.
I handled one of the protos at Blade.
They asked me if it would compete with a Sebenza at a retail about 100.00 lower.I told them I did not think it would the way it was,after all you can buy a Sebenza on the secondary market for the same price as one of these from a dealer.I told him that it might if they made it with a tip down option and gave it an excentric pivot so the lock could be adjusted for wear,he wrote these things down but I don't know if they will use them.
As far as it being a Sebenza clone I don't think it is.This knife is competeing with the Sebenza in the market but no more really than the Buck-Mayo.
The proto seemed like a very good knife but not really worth the retail price it was going to sell for and not quite up there with the Sebenza.
While I was handleing it I was thinking retail about 199.99,I know that retail and street price are two differant things and if dealers sell these for about 200.00 they will do well but I got the felling that Mid West was going to be the only distributor and sell them for retail,I might be wrong about that.
 
Sounds like street price is approx $170.

I mentioned before, but Buck Mayo prices dropped steadily in the secondary market and they are now around $130 to $140. Given the similarity between the two knives and their street prices. I would expect that prices for the Alias knives will drop eventually as well.

I find it interesting that lowest secondary sebenza prices are still around approx $250. I wonder if that's because their higher initial price, higher perceived quality, or both.

Also I think the the middle ground market of $100 less then a sebenza and $100 more then what had been high end production knives, is probably pretty small. I would think marketing would play a significant role in keeping this market in demand.
 
u812 said:
... after all you can buy a Sebenza on the secondary market for the same price as one of these from a dealer.
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Yes, and you will soon be able to get the Alias on the secondary market and it will likely drop more than the Sebenza as it will be easier to get.

-Cliff
 
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