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Comeuppance said:
I actually do... 4" Talwar, two large Espadas, a Counter Point 1, a Pro Guard, and an Eland.
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You have some nice ones. Believe it are not, my favorite Cold Steel knife that I have owned is my Medium Voyager. Best 28 bucks I have ever spent on a knife.
 
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Who cares about these videos. The tests were designed to be ones the Triad lock was most likely to succeed at and what a shock, it exceeds at them.

It just so happens that these tests have very little real world applications outside of mall ninjary.
 
No butthurt here. I EDC a CRK Insingo and use it plenty. I've also owned a regular Sebenza since '02, used it hard on and off up 'til now, and have never had, nor even come close to, a failure during use.

Oh, and I also own lots of other knives, including Cold Steels. In fact, I own more Cold Steels than CRKs, including a drop point Code 4. Marketing hype aside, CS puts out lots of good knives. But I've never warmed up to any of them enough to EDC one over the long haul.

To each their own. If someone else wants to waste time getting upset about some test, or if others want to gloat about it, that's their business. Meanwhile, I will continue to use what I like and what I know works for me.

Jim
 
DeadboxHero said:
They do, they do. But I've had the opportunities to hold both in my hands and there was a difference. Whether that's worth the time to manufactur to that detail and the cost increase with it is everyone's personal opinion that the they decide with there wallet.

I don't own any CRK.
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Yes I agree. When I hold my Seb 25 I can feel the quality. Hard to explain but I can...

retzius said:
Feelings aside... I can tell you that from an engineering perspective, testing an item to failure, even if it is outside the normal envelope of usage, yields useful data that often leads to insights and improvements.
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This. This. This. Why are people so opposed to Demko's tests? Very scientific and empirical... Sure may not simulate the real world but making 200+ 1 inch cuts of Manila rope isn't either (but those tests are interestingly lauded for their application and for being "scientific").

I'm sure there was a camp getting upset when car manufacturers started doing crash tests. "Hey man not realistic! I don't go smashing my car full of test dummies into brick walls at 50+!?!?!
 
I have about 20 locking folders in my collection, give or take.

I don't know what any one of them would withstand in a test like that.

Because I don't come anywhere close to using my knives that way. Even in an emergency, my need would be "can this cut the thing I urgently need to cut?" Not "crap, will this hold my weight if I hammer it into a tree the wrong way down and, having already drilled the needed holes, rappel from it?"
 
I own and enjoy both Cold Steel and Chris Reeve knives. I feel confident using any of the with no fear of lock failure. On frame locks, my grip secures the lock bar. I have no problem with these tests, Cold Steel has been doing them for years. No sure they really illustrate real world use though.
 
I wonder how my Hiroaki Ohta friction folder would hold up in one of these tests!

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I wonder why they didn't show the failure up close? I'm not trying to say I don't think it was a real CRK, I just seriously wonder why they didn't show the failure up close.
 
I find it hard to believe a Sebenza can't hold 45 lbs., when a Kershaw frame lock that cost 35 bucks held 380. I would need to see it in person or done by other parties before I believe it. Even the Buck 110 held 380 and the Chinese Spyderco when tested by BladeHQ.
 
HwangJino said:
Not sure if that was a joke, but I had a good laugh
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Insipid Moniker said:
How so?
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Wasn't a joke. Maybe not finish, but they're put together pretty well and consistently done so. I've had Benchmades that were rock solid in construction while being smooth as glass, others (and a lot others) that could not be solid with out the action being too tight for my interests in an axis lock. Geometry is there, good grinds... Now in XHP. And DLC if that's ya fancy :).
 
walleyeguy7 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4DNRn-sK-c

I was surprised and interested! I think no matter what you think of Andrew Demko's tests this result was interesting. obviously this is not a test of knife practicality and/or quality. Regardless I have always and probably will always prefer liner and frame locks above all others (liners above frames) despite not being as strong as some other locks. But I like my triad lock talwar too! It's clearly a strong, solid, and durable lock. Impressive design from Andrew.
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I am not interested at all in how much weight any knife can hold in a test irrelevant to virtually all knife usage.

Did you miss the cold steel sub-forum with this?
 
when the weight test failed, he reset the lock and barely pushed down and it failed again, no way in hell mine would do that.
 
korn_2956 said:
when the weight test failed, he reset the lock and barely pushed down and it failed again, no way in hell mine would do that.
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I don't believe you can accurately make this statement unless your Sebenza did indeed fail on a weight test...right?
Unfortunately we didn't get to see up close what actually happened so it's a lot of speculation at this point.
 
fetzer85 said:
I don't believe you can accurately make this statement unless your Sebenza did indeed fail on a weight test...right?
Unfortunately we didn't get to see up close what actually happened so it's a lot of speculation at this point.
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Look at how much pressure he puts on it and tell me any knife would do that.

edit. not trying to come off confrontational, I'm just saying when he breaks the lock with his hand it seems ridiculously easy.
 
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