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  1. Jan 20, 2009 #161
    markksr

    markksr

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    I also am still experiencing long lags when trying to post.
     
  2. Jan 20, 2009 #162
    roughedges

    roughedges

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    FWIW, when making a reply, it seems that new posts post immediately after hitting the submit button but the page continues to hang. I found this out after closing the page in frustration at the slow load time and seeing that the post still made it to the thread. But when I did this it also took several minutes for the thread to show as updated for my post on the subforum front page and while using the 'new posts' tab.


    Something is wrong somewhere. The whuzzit is configured for the whazzit, etc. etc. :confused:
     
  3. Jan 20, 2009 #163
    HikingMano

    HikingMano

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    Still laggy at times, and I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but sometimes when I post or edit a reply I get the button options for a poll and the confirmation message for a poll on regular non-poll threads ("vote now" buttons instead of reply, confirmation message says i've voted instead of reply submitted).
     
  4. Jan 20, 2009 #164
    SharpByCoop

    SharpByCoop Enjoying the discussions Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Whatever time and money was spent on the last upgrade, isn't paying off. It's as slow and spotty as ever. Frustrating.

    Coop
     
  5. Jan 20, 2009 #165
    JatMat

    JatMat

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    Actually it seems worse, the delay in posting sometimes drives me crazy.
    Jim
     
  6. Jan 20, 2009 #166
    Guyon

    Guyon Biscuit Whisperer Staff Member Super Mod

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    When the post window hangs up, try right clicking the thread's name link and opening a new window. Most often, your post will be there, and you can simply close the hung window and keep trucking.

    Aggravating, but better than sitting there doing nothing.
     
  7. Jan 21, 2009 #167
    markksr

    markksr

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    In the hour and a half since mycroftt posted his thread (No lag now - none ) I hadn't had any problems at all, until now, that is.

    They're back...
     
  8. Jan 22, 2009 #168
    Spark

    Spark HPIC - Hatas gonna Hate Staff Member Administrator Super Mod Moderator

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    ok, we think we've tracked this down and it's (surprise) related to the search.

    When someone makes a new post on the site, the posts index table is locked while the search index updated. Because of the size of the databases, this is taking longer and longer.

    So, we've got a couple options here.

    Option 1 is that we can add another column to the db and use it to speed up the indexing. This will require a minimum of 48 hours downtime for the forums.

    Option 2 is that we can switch over to MYSQL Fulltext searching which is more efficient than the organic vB search, but I'm not sure how much more. This will probably require a week or so of downtime.

    Option 3 is installing a third party search app such as Sphinx, which is entirely unsupported by vB at this time.

    Option 4 is splitting the db and creating, effectively, another site - archives.bladeforums.com which will have the first 8-9 years of BFC and everything newer will be here on the "live" forums. The only problem with this is that the live forums and the archives won't probably be able to be married back together in the future.

    I'm debating on what to do, but I'm open to opinions.
     
  9. Jan 22, 2009 #169
    5.56

    5.56

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    Sounds like options 2 and 3 really aren't a fix.

    I would vote option 1, with minimal downtime and still keeping things simple as far as searches go.
     
  10. Jan 22, 2009 #170
    Spark

    Spark HPIC - Hatas gonna Hate Staff Member Administrator Super Mod Moderator

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    Well, option 2 would (probably) stop the lags altogether, as would option 3 since the posts table wouldn't be locked.
     
  11. Jan 22, 2009 #171
    T.A.DAVISON

    T.A.DAVISON Slip Joint Knife Maker Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

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    Spark - just pick your best option for you and Bladeforums an do it.
    Sometime you gotta to do, what you gotta to do, getter done.....:thumbup:

    TA



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  12. Jan 22, 2009 #172
    Fred Sanford

    Fred Sanford Gold Member Gold Member

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    How about only having the search index update only once a day instead of every time a new post is created?

    Also, (not tooting my own horn) but I do get paid "big bucks" to work on SQL Servers, Linux Servers, MySQL Servers, Web Servers, Cisco Routers, Switches, Firewalls, etc. So I'm one of those "techie" guys and I work in a hospital so stuff has to stay up 24/7/365 .......and it does. ;)

    I don't see a reason to update the search index more than once a day because chances are the newest threads are still on the first or second page of the forum and don't need to be included in search.

    Just my $.02 of advice.

    I'm used to having people to "pound salt" so please feel free. ;)
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2009
  13. Jan 22, 2009 #173
    markksr

    markksr

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    Option 3 seems to be the least "intrusive".
     
  14. Jan 22, 2009 #174
    5.56

    5.56

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    Nevermind me, I would say go with whatever the techs recommend, that's why they get paid the big bucks. :D
     
    Last edited: Jan 22, 2009
  15. Jan 22, 2009 #175
    markksr

    markksr

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    As bad as ever right now.
     
  16. Jan 22, 2009 #176
    on_the_edge

    on_the_edge Gold Member Gold Member

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    +1. Over a minute to load the page...
     
  17. Jan 22, 2009 #177
    SPXTrader

    SPXTrader

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    This is the slowest I've seen it. Must be a bunch of little stolas223's still in there clogging up the pipes.
     
  18. Jan 22, 2009 #178
    CarpScot

    CarpScot

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    Same on my end.
     
  19. Jan 22, 2009 #179
    A.P.F.

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    I would consider option 4 as it will provide a degree of redundancy. Besides, I don't think that I could go for 48hrs without BF.
     
  20. Jan 22, 2009 #180
    Sword and Shield

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    Another test post... I'm hitting reply at 22:49:48
     
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