seriously... knife bubble?

IMO a lot of this can be blamed on ebay, a HUGE amount of flipping happens there, also for every person registered on BF's theirs probably 50,000 on ebay so say a 50,000 to 1 ratio? I'm Just guessing on the ratio? Point is for every person here whining/complaining about prices theirs a 1000 people on ebay willing, ready and able to step up to the plate and pay x amount of dollars for x knife..some deep pockets over there..

Until the ebay juggernaut slows down or fizzles out I don't see things changing..
 
Ebay is simply a platform that reaches a larger audience. Because of the 'competition' of a larger consumer base, it is sometimes able to command higher prices. The psychosis, however, is ubiquitous. It even encompasses me, !@#$%@#$%!!!, regardless of where I buy...dagnabit...:mad:

But mark my words, when the FED induced Wall Street psychosis is enjoined by reality and meets its irrevocable end, so too will the knife psychosis run amok and be done. People are only spending more [on knives] because they mistakenly think they have more to spend. Without all the economic artiface, would any among us spend what we are now actually spending on...a knife??? On a simple cutting tool???

I get the artistry, the tolerances, the collector's and user's singular fascination with their GRAIL. Hard use Striders. Smooth Hinderers, Reeves, etc... I get the steel junky...junkiness. Mea Culpa. Completely... I want cts-maxemet, cpm rex-121, s110v, s125v. In fact, I !%$@# need them... And have some nice specimens of them.

I'm simply saying that the bubble that we correctly see in the high end knife world is primarily a reflection of the larger economic bubble we are already in. When the FED induced macro-economic bubble pops, so too will our knife bubble.

That Spyderco PM2 s90v cf won't be worth near 800.00 then. Nor could it be traded for what is now $800.00 worth of bread, oil, or other fungible commodities.

The knife bubble is simply an expression of the larger macro-economic illusion of which we now inhabit. And it will end...unfortunately...
 
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What i dont understand is the massive amounts of customs i see on the exchange that are all "LNIB" or "carried once or twice and just cut two pieces of paper with it". Are people even using their knives or are they just preserving the knife's value so they can flip it? I understand if youre a collector who doesnt use his knives or you just got the knife and it didnt click, but there's no way this can be the case with the all these people. It sounds like alot of people are just trying to make a quick buck.
 
Agreed. I think. Either use them, or collect them. Carry them a day or two, cut a piece of paper; what's the point? That little indiscretion hurts collector/resell value, and gains the owner...what? That an intelligent mind can't deduce from simply holding it and observing it's qualities in hand, without actually using it. A simple touch of the finger will tell you if a knife can cut paper or is sharp enough to shave with...for example.

As far as turning a quick buck...well, who wouldn't if they could? That is the simple, enduring reality of a free marketplace. In many ways it does suck, but all the alternatives suck even worse.z\

A free marketplace??? Who am I kidding? But it probably exists here, on the forums, in a more real, and rational way, than anywhere else; i. e., than where gov't, banking and currency manipulations dominate in very pronounced and targeted ways, always to the detriment of us peons.

In any case, the knife bubble does NOT exist in a vacuum.
 
Benchmade is no longer allowing authorized dealers to discount their knives. Lol, look at all the time you'll save looking for the best deal.:)
 
I don't think people are complaining because dealers are discounting knives.

And they have to advertise MAP pricing as well as others like ZT. They can sell them for whatever they want. We still live in a free country.
 
FlaMtnBkr said:
I don't think people are complaining because dealers are discounting knives.

And they have to advertise MAP pricing as well as others like ZT. They can sell them for whatever they want. We still live in a free country.
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Sorry but Benchmade doesn't allow dealers dealers to discount their knives now.They can't sell them for whatever they want and we no longer live in a free country imho.:)
 
skyhorse said:
Sorry but Benchmade doesn't allow dealers dealers to discount their knives now.They can't sell them for whatever they want and we no longer live in a free country imho.:)
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Where are you getting this info? It's not really germane to this thread but I checked a couple if dealers and they are still offering discount codes.
 
Scurvy092 said:
Where are you getting this info? It's not really germane to this thread but I checked a couple if dealers and they are still offering discount codes.
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And I also hear if a dealer sells BM for whatever he/she likes, their dealer status will be revoked. A few sites have stopped offering BM discounts on the MAP prices, and a few still do. We still don't know what's the game for BM here.

As for the "bubble" - yep, I have seen in in the last year or so, including the El Patrons at a dealer from $750 onwards (and I spilled my coffee as well). Not sure if its the dealer markup, or the maker markup, but since these knives are a rarity they command high prices (and interestingly those are all sold out as of now - so people are buying from the dealer at $750 and up). Its a fad, and will burst as soon as the larger bubble bursts (as someone commented earlier).
 
fwiw, I always admired how my Father carried the same folder for many, many years.
I'm going to try to do this. Try. ;)
 
I don't think that there is a knife bubble, a housing bubble, or an other bubble. What you do have is, a generation or two now that is getting married much later, if at all, better paying jobs, more disposable income than our fathers and grandfathers had, and less responsibility. So we spend much more time on our toys and obsessions than our fathers did, or could afford to. And the retailers and manufacturers cater o that. They know they have a bunch of young people with more time and money on their hands than ever before, so they get away with charging outrageous prices for things that our parents would have scoffed at.

I'll always remember my grandfathers reaction to my new Randall.

"You spent how much on a G-- d--- knife???!!!"
 
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There are some great under valued high quality customs out there. Look at Crawford's folders and Dozier as we'll. They are equal to the $ 750+"fad folders". I've bought two excellent Crawford KFF folders for under $ 400 recently.
 
skyhorse said:
I have a reliable source,all the words I posted are true.:)
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Since when? I just recently perused some Benchmades and went through checkout on a couple sites. Discount showed up just fine. No idea what you're talking about.
 
That's a good post, jackknife.^
I simply refuse to drop big money on a knife anymore.
If buyers don't buy, will prices come down? hmmm??
rolf
 
Stoney26 said:
What i dont understand is the massive amounts of customs i see on the exchange that are all "LNIB" or "carried once or twice and just cut two pieces of paper with it". Are people even using their knives or are they just preserving the knife's value so they can flip it? I understand if youre a collector who doesnt use his knives or you just got the knife and it didnt click, but there's no way this can be the case with the all these people. It sounds like alot of people are just trying to make a quick buck.
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OMG are you serious? Yes obviously these people are collectors, many of which constantly exchange knives in and out of their collection to get new pieces. I have explained why its 100% natural, acceptable, and expected that these people make more money than they bought the knives for sometimes (i.e. when they purchase from the maker after two years wait). It's very rare that a knife increases in value in a short period of time after purchasing second hand...It sounds like some people are just really upset they can't buy a top end, rare knife.
 
RemyKaze said:
Since when? I just recently perused some Benchmades and went through checkout on a couple sites. Discount showed up just fine. No idea what you're talking about.
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There is a thread prominently displayed at or near the top of the discussion within the Benchmade forum if you are inclined to pursue the reading. You will have to make of it what you will, opinion and fact seem to be confused at times.
 
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