Sir Snark-A-Lot

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daizee said:
What I'm trying to say is that a 2-brick forge and a canola quench is EXACTLY what you need... for 1084. And you will likely have excellent results. Using fancy equipment for 1084 doesn't buy you more performance, and 1084 is great. Frankly, almost any decent forging steel can be heat-treated with simple equipment.

And it is exactly wrong for fancier steels, which are generally not forging steels, for metallurgical reasons. So if you're considering DIY heat-treat, which I whole-heartedly endorse for the right materials, use a steel that is appropriate for it. If you want to use fancier materials, do yourself a solid and find a buddy or a steel shop with a kiln.

As a beginner it's hard to justify making enough blades for a batch worthy of sending out to Peter's, though some people start this way. Personally I prefer to make an entire knife and learn (and from) the entire process. Then start another. Well I did... now I have like 15 things in the works at once, but the principle still applies...


NOW: we're crawling up the collapse scar of a submarine volcano. it's a bit slow going with only one camera platform, but we'll be back with the big boy in a couple days.
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That makes sense to me, we have much fancier steels these days than in the past :D

And yea i cant justify paying over 50 bucks to heat treat 2 knives... it makes more sense to buy more steel to continue to practice for now. But i also cant wrap my head around waiting until i have 10-20 knives ready to make it more cost efficient either. That could take me a really long time.... BUT at the same time i cant start cutting with a knife and see how it performs until its heat treated and a final edge is put on it..... Man its a never ending circle LMAO
 
TMHunt said:
WW and granite. Both of you well said. I get it. Sometimes us guys that have been doing this a while get a little over excited and probably spew from the mouth a little more than they/I should. Fact is. There's a lot of fine craftsman out there in the world of knife making. Unfortunately, there some real train wrecks out there to that push junk and there silver tongues for the sake of there own wallet. Those train wrecks make us guys that are trying to do this honestly and produce the best produce we can look bad.

I think part of it for us is since you guys express interest in the craft. We just want to give you a little guidance so we don't have to deal with a future train wreck.:D ........kinda like not wanting your daughter to date a jerk. Lol. Carry on fellers!
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I for one truly appreciate all the guidance and knowledge you guys share. I know its coming from a someone with much more knowledge and experience than ill be able to obtain in many years... and it helps a BUNCH!! Ill try and NOT be a another trainwreck!!

But as a side snark.... I didnt know you were producing produce?? You got any fresh maters or peppers?? :D
 
worldwood said:
TBut i also cant wrap my head around waiting until i have 10-20 knives ready to make it more cost efficient either. That could take me a really long time.... BUT at the same time i cant start cutting with a knife and see how it performs until its heat treated and a final edge is put on it..... Man its a never ending circle LMAO
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and that's why I have an Atlas mini-forge and turkey roaster full of canola - so I can do 1084 on MY schedule. Then I do other steels on my buddy's schedule, usually every other Friday or so.
 
worldwood said:
I for one truly appreciate all the guidance and knowledge you guys share. I know its coming from a someone with much more knowledge and experience than ill be able to obtain in many years... and it helps a BUNCH!! Ill try and NOT be a another trainwreck!!

But as a side snark.... I didnt know you were producing produce?? You got any fresh maters or peppers?? :D
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Lol, you know what I mean. :rolleyes: spelling has never been my strong point.
 
TMHunt said:
Lol, you know what I mean. :rolleyes: spelling has never been my strong point.
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I know bud just snarking :D

Spelling and grammar is definitely not my strong point either... id bet there are a hundred errors by me on this page alone lol... I was just trying to lighten the mood :)
 
x2 on appreciating the knowledge and guidance. I've learned a ton from y'alls discussion. And I know it's only the tip of the iceberg.
 
worldwood said:
Any more past what is free? After 4?
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Yessir. After 4. Once you've spent a hundred bucks (+ shipping) for a steel type, anything else is bonus. Biggest batch I've ever sent out is 13, but then, working with 3V and making swords, that was already 600 bucks worth of steel...
 
worldwood said:
I know bud just snarking :D

Spelling and grammar is definitely not my strong point either... id bet there are a hundred errors by me on this page alone lol... I was just trying to lighten the mood :)
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No mood to lighten as far as I'm concerned, and by the way WW. I will extent the same agreement I have to others here on this and my forum. I will ht your first knife that you made for free. Just pay the shipping. After that. I will charge but the fee will be cheaper than Peters.

DunkEm said:
x2 on appreciating the knowledge and guidance. I've learned a ton from y'alls discussion. And I know it's only the tip of the iceberg.
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:thumbup:
 
I definitely appreciate all of the guidance and tips. And I get it about the right materials for the methods you have at your disposal.

I'm organizing tools in my basement lately, and I can hear constantly the words of one of my best friends (carpenter for 45 years) about how he gets all kind of stuff done with 1/2 of the "fancy shit" I have....and I'm the amateur. I still try to loan him tools, though - but he's old and stubborn and is perfectly capable of doing his job without my help. Plus, he figures it's better to do it with what he has that he knows how to use rather than borrow some fancy router table or such. I also have the luxury of time to do stuff since I'm not relying on efficiency and economy to make a living.

On a more important note, I need to get out of my own head and actually buy some 1084 so I can put all of your fantastic advice to use.....
 
The wife and youngest child are still asleep. (Oldest is out of town.)

It's after 11...

I may unleash the waggy, slobbery, so-happy-to-see-you, sleep interrupting dog on them...

:)
 
DunkEm said:
The wife and youngest child are still asleep. (Oldest is out of town.)

It's after 11...

I may unleash the waggy, slobbery, so-happy-to-see-you, sleep interrupting dog on them...

:)
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Lol, thats great. I think that same dog woke me up this morning. :D
 
TMHunt said:
No mood to lighten as far as I'm concerned, and by the way WW. I will extent the same agreement I have to others here on this and my forum. I will ht your first knife that you made for free. Just pay the shipping. After that. I will charge but the fee will be cheaper than Peters.



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That is an awesome, very generous offer bud!! Once i get the handle finished up I will send you a PM.... Ill be embarrassed sending it to a pro knife maker though honestly LOL

Thank you very much Todd!
 
DunkEm said:
The wife and youngest child are still asleep. (Oldest is out of town.)

It's after 11...

I may unleash the waggy, slobbery, so-happy-to-see-you, sleep interrupting dog on them...

:)
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LMAO!!

I wish mine would sleep in. They were both up by 7am. They never BOTH sleep in on the same day. Of course when its just one of them they stay quiet... But when they are both up it gets loud pretty quick.
 
TMHunt said:
Lol, thats great. I think that same dog woke me up this morning. :D
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We put her in a box at night so we don't get licked into waking up. And to protect the couch from any middle of the night chewing she might feel compelled to do. Hopefully now that she's 1, the chewing will begin to calm down.

worldwood said:
LMAO!!

I wish mine would sleep in. They were both up by 7am. They never BOTH sleep in on the same day. Of course when its just one of them they stay quiet... But when they are both up it gets loud pretty quick.
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Our oldest is the early riser. Crazy thing is that at 15, he will still put himself to bed most nights without a fight! I'm 44 and still complain about having to go to bed.
 
Lol I love going to bed the same time as my kids :D I normally start my day at 5am so if I can sneek into bed at like 730pm its awesome!
 
sure do miss a lot of snark in one night :D My HS had another home game last night, and boy was it a good one. this is really shaping up to be a good season. and after the game we did a school wide ALS ice bucket challenge
 
My father just sent me a couple pictures...

First one is his dodge with 400HP, i love how this truck looks. Especially from the back.

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Second one is a jig he is making for me out of some scrap wood he had around his shop. He put inserts in it so i wouldnt have to worry about messing up the threads taking the bolts in and out. Maybe make it last longer. Then the inserts on the lower part may be able to stop the blade from sliding back on their own. Or if needed i could still put a bolt in it to stop it.

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