Small EDC / SD folder (read description)

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I need some recommendations for a small EDC folder that can double as an SD folder for someone who has zero interest in knives and is completely unconcerned with SD.

Thus the folder needs to be stylish and small or they won't carry it.

At the same time it needs to be useful should it be pressed into SD use.

The Kershaw Leek fits the stylish and small part perfectly but the grip doesn't look secure at all and I'm looking for something a bit cheaper (under $50).

Kershaw Skyline is what I'm looking at now.
 
Boberama said:
I need some recommendations for a small EDC folder that can double as an SD folder for someone who has zero interest in knives and is completely unconcerned with SD.
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Get them some pepper spray and a SAK. They'll probably just hurt themselves if they try to defend with a knife if they don't even want to think about the possibility before hand.
 
I've read your description. Here are some questions you will be seeing shortly:
If someone is completely disinterested in knives, why would they carry one?
How would the disinterested person know what is stylish or not?
What makes you think this persons would know what to do with a knife in a life or death scenario?

With that third question, you can either end up dead or in legal trouble if you get the knife taken away from you and used againt you, or be in prison for a long time for felony assault.

It's very hard to suggest a knife you see, if somone has zero interest in them at all. Especially if they want it to be used in a self defense role and potentially never train at all with it. On another note, the Skyline is a terrific knife. I cannot in good conscience recommend any knife, but some handgun training and lots of common sense to avoid any SD type scenario.
 
RevDevil said:
I've read your description. Here are some questions you will be seeing shortly:
If someone is completely disinterested in knives, why would they carry one?
How would the disinterested person know what is stylish or not?
What makes you think this persons would know what to do with a knife in a life or death scenario?

With that third question, you can either end up dead or in legal trouble if you get the knife taken away from you and used againt you, or be in prison for a long time for felony assault.

It's very hard to suggest a knife you see, if somone has zero interest in them at all. Especially if they want it to be used in a self defense role and potentially never train at all with it. On another note, the Skyline is a terrific knife. I cannot in good conscience recommend any knife, but some handgun training and lots of common sense to avoid any SD type scenario.
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My sentiments and much better said than I ever could.
 
The CRKT Drifter (in either G-10 or stainless scales) is a good little folder for not much money.
 
Handguns are illegal to carry here (%&$!ing government) and possession of pepper spray is an indictable offense.

So a small knife could cut and distract an attacker enough to get away.

An animal with claws is better than no claws at all IMO.
 
That is an unrealistic analogy. An animal with claws is born with them. Giving a knife to someone that doesn't want one in the first place, with no training, is only going to end up hurt or possibly worse.
 
@RedDevil

If someone's grabbed and shoved into a van then a small knife is infinitely better than nothing at all.

Just my 0.02.

I want suggestions not criticism.
 
Boberama said:
@RedDevil

If someone's grabbed and shoved into a van then a small knife is infinitely better than nothing at all.

Just my 0.02.

I want suggestions not criticism.
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You probably should make a distinction between criticism and good advice. You could instead ask RD what he thinks might be a good idea in that case, and decide if it fits you or not.

Even people who have some training would find it difficult to get a knife into play once the attack starts. How would you think a person who HAS NO INTEREST IN SD, would react?

Oh get knife, absolutely carry it and use it for EDC but have no illusions about it for SD. That would be falling into the trap of the "magic weapon" syndrome.

PS: even a gun would be hard to deploy once the attack starts. SD absolutely begins with mindset not tools.
 
Spyderco tenacious...In my opinion any knife good enough to accomplish everyday tasks and cutting you would need would be fine for self defense. But in my opinion you shouldnt use a knife for self defense unless you are trained to use it, and someones life is in danger.
 
This sounds like it may be for a woman? If so you have a 10% chance she will carry it in her pocket and a 90% chance it will be at the bottom of one of her purses.

FFG delica, izula, CS mini lawman or AK, would all do well.
 
I second (third?) the Delica suggestion. It's enough knife for most anything an average person might want to do, and would be pretty handy if one were 'thrown in a van' I should think. It's a solid little knife, and the VG10 steel will be more likely to be sharp when 'in the van' than average, since it will have been used for any number of tasks beforehand.
 
If somebody has made up his mind about using a knife as a weapon - telling him about all the risks, disadvantages and viable alternatives I believe is mostly a waste of time. That decision is irrational, it is emotional - so you just can not talk the way out using rational arguments.
But what is probably worth doing - is to advise to look for the answers in the forum. After all, the same topic about knife for SD comes up here every week. The last one with very similar requirements was just a few days ago - about SD knife to take for jogging. Small, light, of course nice and so usefull for untrained person to defend himself/herself against bad guys...
That is not cool, just boring. All the same staff gets told time after time after time...
 
Poez said:
If somebody has made up his mind about using a knife as a weapon - telling him about all the risks, disadvantages and viable alternatives I believe is mostly a waste of time. That decision is irrational, it is emotional - so you just can not talk the way out using rational arguments.
But what is probably worth doing - is to advise to look for the answers in the forum. After all, the same topic about knife for SD comes up here every week. The last one with very similar requirements was just a few days ago - about SD knife to take for jogging. Small, light, of course nice and so usefull for untrained person to defend himself/herself against bad guys...
That is not cool, just boring. All the same staff gets told time after time after time...
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Yeh, we could have a thread for all relevant and intelligent knife questions for newbies.

And another thread for the rest. :p
 
I would take the money and put it towards Aikido or Krav Maga classes. Just my opinion. I hope my knife never has to come out in a self defense scenario. It means I have expended 30 plus rounds and the situation is pretty much fubar.
 
serrated spyderco delica
serrated spyderco tasman salt
spyderco delica with emerson wave
benchmade mini griptilian
cold steel hold out 3
cold steel mini ak-47
spyderco native
 
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